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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:58 am

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mod error?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:59 am

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Maenara's vote is garbage. This game was going to be role heavy because it's meta. Nobody has fucking vanilla meta.
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:59 am

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...your point being?

I don't think I ever implied that anyone was vanilla.
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:00 am

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Venmar wrote:Oh, right I should claim.

I am the Town Jailkeeper. Night 1 i protected Mattp because I knew he wasn't going to lightning rod. Night 2 I jailed Nacho thinking Mattp will pull me into him and save him but that clearly didn't happen. Nacho either cant be blocked, or there's somekind of a strongman, or I was blocked myself, idk.


This was a reason I didn't claim day1. I didn't want to out myself and a doctor to catch one scum.

With the Bitmap death and the Trollie lynch and all the Matt activity from night1, if Matt used LR, I expected to see a party. If he didn't I expected that scum would take another shot at him.

Right now, tending to go with no use of the LR, and TAM also lying.
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:01 am

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TAM was redirected onto MattP N2, MattP had flavor where he was fried, and MattP said that he was lightning rodding last night, had absolutely no reason to lie
venmar should have been redirected onto MattP, but wasn't
maenara should have been redirected onto MattP, but wasn't
if there was a strongman, he still should have been seen
if i targetted MattP both nights to kill him (which must be the case if Peregrine isn't lying), I should have been blocked last night
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:01 am

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Pausing the game while an issue is resolved.
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:08 am

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There has been a mod error involving the night action results of several players. MattP should not have died. I have decided the most balanced way to handle this is to allow the game to continue while PMing the effected parties the correct night action results. I apologize for any inconvenience and comments regarding my decision may be discussed post game.
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:12 am

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So yeah... this is really stupid because apparently Monkey didn't even count my role last night... and if he had he said Mattp would still be alive. I don't like how the mafia get a free kill out of this but I suppose it's the only thing he could've done.

This means that one of the two people on Mattp, either Nacho or TAM, are the killers because it's confirmed Mattp would've lived if my power was actually counted. It's probably Nacho because i'm pretty sure he tried to kill Mattp on Night 1 as well but was stoped by me. I couldve done it again if.. well you know.
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:14 am

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PeregrineV wrote:OK. Now the full results. ON both nights, Matt was the player I selected to watch.

Night1:
Aside from myself,
Nacho
and
Venmar
visited Matt
There was no kill night1.

Night2
: Aside from myself,
Nacho
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The Acting Method
visited Matt

MattP died night2, but there was no expected Party on the Patio of every power role, which I would have expected had Matt actually used his lightning rod ability.

So, Maenera is lying.

If Matt used Lightning Rod, then there are people missing from having thier night action redirected to Matt.
If Matt did not use Lightning Rod, then one of TAM or Nacho killed him.

So, Nacho is lying.


UPDATE:


Night1:
Aside from myself,
Nacho
and
Venmar
visited Matt
There was no kill night1.

Night2
: Aside from myself,
Nacho
and
Venmar
and
The Acting Method
visited Matt
There may or may not have been a nightkill.

Nacho still lied.
Maenara still lied.
Matt may or may not used his LR, but if he did, then it makes sense that Venmar-Jk would be re-directed to him, protecting him.

Also explains why TAM was there.
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:15 am

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Venmar wrote:So yeah... this is really stupid because apparently Monkey didn't even count my role last night... and if he had he said Mattp would still be alive. I don't like how the mafia get a free kill out of this but I suppose it's the only thing he could've done.

This means that one of the two people on Mattp, either Nacho or TAM, are the killers because it's confirmed Mattp would've lived if my power was actually counted. It's probably Nacho because i'm pretty sure he tried to kill Mattp on Night 1 as well but was stoped by me. I couldve done it again if.. well you know.


But you did, n2, for sure send in Nacho are your target?
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:17 am

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Monkey confirmed to me that if I was redirected to Mattp by his lightning rod, I wouldn't role block him and only protect him.

I targeted Nacho in reality on Night 2, so Mattps DID use his power. Explains why TAM is there, and why TAM is town.

WE'RE LYNCHING NACHO AND MAENARA. IN THAT ORDER.

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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:18 am

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PeregrineV wrote:But you did, n2, for sure send in Nacho are your target?

- Yes, read my latest post. I had to target someone else other than Mattp or else I would've blocked mattp if i targeted him directly.
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:21 am

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Perhaps the friendly dayvig can shoot the other one....
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:22 am

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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:24 am

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Curious, how many scum do you guys think are still alive? I think 3 since 5 looks like standard scumteam number, with a possible 6?
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:29 am

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Om of the Nom wrote:I can see if they're there or not
basically it's like a weak rolecop i guess


So you are a 1-shot Reporter?

A Reporter can check a player's house to find out if they are home. Anyone doing something during the night is not home, so they get a positive result if they do not target anyone and are not targeted by anyone, and a negative result otherwise
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:32 am

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22 players
1 sk-scum means 21 players, so normal would be 5 mafiascum

2 dead+2 upcoming dead means 1 left. I think.
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:34 am

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PeregrineV wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:I can see if they're there or not
basically it's like a weak rolecop i guess


So you are a 1-shot Reporter?

A Reporter can check a player's house to find out if they are home. Anyone doing something during the night is not home, so they get a positive result if they do not target anyone and are not targeted by anyone, and a negative result otherwise

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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:35 am

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1. ArcAngel9

2. maestro

3. Guy_Named_Riggs

5. PeregrineV

6. roflcopter

7. The Acting Method

8. Lurker

10. Maenara

11. Elmo TeH Anz/replaced by pirate mollie

12. Om of the Nom

13. SoraAdvent/replaced by JacobSavage day 2

14. chkflip

16. Voidedmafia

18. venmar

19. Nero Cain

20. Toogeloo

21. Nachomamma8


Everyone bold green is confirmed town with the exception of Chkflip, who is very likely to be town.

Everyone bold red is probably confirmed scum.

Everyone in bold orange are either leaning scum or scum.

Everyone in bold blue is null.

Anyone disagree with my summary?
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:36 am

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I mainly disagree with this game being kept running.

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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:36 am

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I am always turned off from games once there has been a mod-error. Mod-error games feel tainted in general to at least one faction, in this case, I feel the Mafia faction is just getting another kick to the nuts at the only benefit of finally knocking off a town member who shouldn't have died.

If Venmar wasn't conf-town before, he pretty much is now. PV is also more or less confirmed.

Excuse me as I slowly lose interest in the game...


As far as PV's watching Matt goes, I'm betting this pretty much was your patio party. Anyone who has a Night Action that you didn't see, probably didn't action at all. Game seems REALLY lop-sided in town's favor to me, but I think the concept of the game itself might be more at fault.


Nacho dies today, Maenara tomorrow, and we have like 1 (maaaaaaaaybe 2) scum left after that. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if scum just up and gave up tbqh.


P-Edit: I'm color blind, but I think we can more or less just go through the motions and win this game at this point.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:36 am

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Vote: Maenara


give me a little time to read through the game again
if I am scum, I am wasting my time
but if I am town, my words might actually mean something
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:38 am

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Start at #1381. Before that is meaningless.
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:39 am

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last scum is probably a ninja to balance out the lightning rod/watcher business a little
and if it's trollie's frame that fucked me up, i will be pissed but it honestly wouldn't surprise me
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:41 am

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You wouldn't have been framed on Night 2 since Trollie died yesterday.
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