Meta Playstyle Mafia(Game Over, Town Wins!)

[Toogeloo]

Nero was next on Matt's list, I am fine with it. He's suspect. He was JK'd last night and no kill happened. All signs point to "YES."

If we are wrong, we lynch rofl tomorrow (last person on Matt's list). If we are still wrong, we just chip at the less confirmed players, including yourself. We have more than enough confirmables that the last scum can't hide.

[Venmar]

Voided, just stop stalling and lynch Nero Cain, there ain't going to be a next day because NC hasn't even shown his face yet, he's scum, LYNCH HIM.

[Voidedmafia]

Nero was next on Matt's list, I am fine with it. He's suspect. He was JK'd last night and no kill happened. All signs point to "YES."

If we are wrong, we lynch rofl tomorrow (last person on Matt's list). If we are still wrong, we just chip at the less confirmed players, including yourself. We have more than enough confirmables that the last scum can't hide.

[Maestro]

And how confirmed is TAM?
Do we even know we only have 4 Scum + SK?

[Om of the Nom]

Okay was going to wait on PV before saying (however you guys are quicklynch whores) but I actually targeted him two nights ago and he didn't leave his house, which confirms that he didn't submit an action that night.
VOTE: Nero Cain
That should be L-1.

[Venmar]

We already lynched 4, Nero Cain will be the 5th to seal the deal. It's probably 5 scum, 1 SK. I doubt there would be 6 scum and 1 SK, but if that's the case we will deal with it tomorrow.

[Toogeloo]

Could this be the bad guys final day? Only time would tell.

Not to meta the host...

And yeah, forgot about rofl be scanned. Lynch Nero today, cross tomorrow's bridge when/if we come to it.

[Toogeloo]

Vote: Nero

My first vote cast since Day 1 ended lolz.

[MonkeyMan576]

That's a lynch!

The town completes a perfect victory. There were no mislynches and they even unearthed the serial killer in a mafia daykill. The town rejoiced in victory knowing that they could sleep without fear in the future.

The town wins!

The victors:

ArcAngel9 - Town Skitzo/Immune to Investigation
maestro - Town Oracle
PerigrineV - Town Watcher
Lurker - Town Miller
roflcopter - Modest Townie(Town Jack Of All Trades/post restricted)
The Acting Method - Town Lurker Cop
pirate mollie(replacing Elmo TeH Anz) - Town Beloved Prince/Hider
Om Of The Nom - Town Gut Lyncher
Jacob Savage(replacing SoraAdvent) - Town Tree Stump
chkflip - Town Neighborizer
Voidedmafia - Town Non Consecutive Voter/Post Restricted Townie
Venmar - Town Jailkeeper
Toogeloo - Transparent Townie
MattP - Town One Time Lightning Rod
Guy_Named_Riggs - Town Governor/Post Restrictor

Other Players
Nero Cain - Mafia Godfather
Mehndi2277 - Mafia Role Cop
The Trollie - Mafia Framer
Nachomamma8 - Mafia One Time Executioner
Maenera - Mafia Doctor

Bitmap - Non-Consecutive Serial Killer/Conditional Double Voter

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

GG everyone.
Two townies died total. 1 scum kill and the other a vig kill. Neat

[Nero Cain]

Town played very well. I'll nom for a scummy later but I will never ever ever agree that this was a balanced game.

[MonkeyMan576]

”Town Nexus/Immune to Investigation”

You are ArcAngel9. You have been told you are “weird.” You also don’t like being judged. As a town nexus, any night action targeted at you will be randomly redirected towards another player. However, you are also immune to investigation, so if anyone investigates you their night action will be returned with no result. You also are able to vote, and as a townie win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Please confirm in the game thread here.

”Town Oracle”

You are Maestro. You have commented that you live to manipulate
and utilize the mechanics of the game in order to win. Therefore you
are a town oracle. Twice per game, you may PM the moderator a question
about the game setup. The answer will be limited to two words or less.
You may vote as normal, and as a Townie win when all anti-town players have
been eliminated.

”Town Governor/Post Restrictor”

You are Guy_Named_Riggs. As someone who has ran several games, you are Town Governor. Twice per game, you may save a person from a lynch by pming the mod if a person’s wagon is at 75% of total needed votes or more. Also, there was some controversy in Phineas and Ferb Mafia when you replaced another player. Therefore you are a post restrictor. As a night action, you may target a player and give them a post restriction of your voice, within reason at the moderators discression. The post restriction may not include not speaking. The post restriction will last for one day. You are also able to vote, and as a townie win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Serial Killer/Conditional Double Voter

You are bitmap. You participated fairly heavily in the Marathon Games, and like things quick and fast. Therefore, if you post 20 times in the first 7 pages of any given day, you will be a conditional double voter. This ability is not available with 5 players or less remaining in the game. For purposes of counting towards the condition, the posts must be content driven and cannot be fluff posts designed to work around the condition. Also the double voter condition You have also won as a serial killer in Open 421, so you are a non-consecutive serial killer. You may kill one player as long as you did not kill a player on the previous night. As a serial killer, you are a third party and win if you are the last player standing.

Town Watcher

You are PeregrineV. You are very logical and not prone to emotional outbursts, so you are the Town Watcher. As a night action, you may target someone and you will be told if someone visited their house that night. You are also able to vote, and as a townie win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Modest Townie

You are roflcopter. You often don't give yourself credit in post game chat when you do well. You have a role similar to jack of all trades, but as a post restriction you may not report your night action results. You may also not respond to queries about your night action results. If you do so, the first time you will not be able to talk for the remainder of the day, the second offence will be a modkill.

You may use your powers one time each.

Investigate - You may investigate a player to determine their guilt or innocence.

Protect - You may protect a player to save them from being killed that night.

Roleblock - You may roleblock a player to stop them from using their night actions.

Vigilante - You may kill a player as a night action.

You may vote as normal and as a townie, you win when all anti-town players are eliminated from the game.

Town Lurker Cop

You are The Acting Method. You “prefer activity over content”, so as town Lurker Cop, if anyone posts less than 5 times in a day, once per night, you may investigate them as a night action. This ability is not available if there are less than 5 players remaining in the game. You also have the ability to vote, and as a townie, win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Town Miller

You are Lurker. You get a lot of flack for your username, but your activity is actually not as bad as it suggests. Therefore you are the Town Miller. You are guilty in all investigations. You have the ability to vote, and as a Townie, win when all anti-town players are eliminated.

Mafia Doctor

You are Maenara. You like to disect things, so you are the Mafia Doctor. As a night action, you may protect someone and they will be immune to kills that night. You are in the mafia with Nero Cain, TheTrollie, Mehndi2277, and Nachomamm8. You have the ability to vote, and win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Town Beloved Prince/Hider

You are Elmo the AzN . In Mini 1317, you refrained from voting on the mod even though he was the prevailing lynch. He ended up being town, and you showed good judgement. Therefore you are the Town Beloved Prince. If you are killed, the town will skip a day to mourn your death. Also, because of your childish qualities, as a Town Hider, as a night action you may choose one players house to visit each night. When you do this, you will be immune to night actions, but if you hide behind an anti-town player you will die. You also have the ability to vote, and as a townie, win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Town Gut Lyncher

You are OmOfTheNom. You like to go by “gut reads” often, and as such your role is Town Gut Lyncher. If you ever correctly lynch anti-town players two days in a row, that night you can choose the power of any player that has already been killed. If you choose an anti-town player you will gain a random, balanced role. You also have the ability to vote normally, and as a townie, you win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Town Tree Stump

You are SoraAdvent. You have not been around the site as long as other players, so you are the Town Tree Stump. At any time during the game you may "declare stump" by pming the mod that you wish to do so. At this point, you stay in the game until the end of the game(that is, you may not be killed for any reason), but you will not be able to vote for the remainder of the game. For purposes of vote count, you will be counted as being out of the game. As a townie, you win when all anti-town players are eliminated from the game.

Town Neighborizer

You are chkflip. You love playing with players that you have played with before, so you are a town neighborizer. Once per game, you may target a player at night and recruit them to be your neighbor so you can talk to them in a seperate
message board. The player must be a player you have played with in a previous game and you must send a link of the game to me along with the name of the player the night you wish to target them. Of course, since you can target any player, this is not indicative of alignment. You may also vote as normal, and win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Mafia Framer

You are TheTrollie. As mafia, you have commented on the overagressiveness of town players. Therefore, you are the Mafia Framer. As a night action, you may target one person and they will come up as guilty in investigations. Your scum partners are Nero Cain, Mehdi2277, Nachomamma8, and Maenara. You may communicate with them in this QT during night only. You also have the power to vote, and win when the mafia outnumber all anti-mafia players in the game.

Town Restricted Voter/Post Restiction

You are Voidedmafia. You have a slow computer, which sometimes impedes your voting ability. Therefore, you may only vote on non-consecutive days. Also, you are highly creative, and as a post restriction may only post with pictures, videos, or if the entire post is in a different color(preferably bright colors) AND larger font. In the later case, you may only post this way four times per day. You are a townie and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Mafia Role Cop

You are Mehdi2277. You like to ask people questions to determine their alignment, and as such your role is Mafia Role Cop. As a night action, you may target a player to determine their role. The final decision is up to the Mafia Godfather, but you may of course give your input. Your scum partners are TheTrollie, Nero Cain, Nachomamm8, and Maenara. You may speak to them in this QT thread only during the night. You also have the power to vote, and win when the mafia outnumber all anti-mafia players in the game.

Town Jailkeeper

You are Venmar. You are a bit of a nerd, in that you are a big fan of video games and Lord of the Rings. Therefore you are Town Jailkeeper. As a night action, you may target a player so that they can play video games and watch movies with you, and they will be immune from nightkills and roleblocked. You may vote as normal and win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Mafia Godfather

You are Nero Cain. Even though your post activity is not unusually high, you got lucky and are assigned the role as Mafia Godfather. You are in charge of the Mafia, and have the final say in all mafia night actions. It is recommended that you follow the advice of your teammates however. Also, as a Godfather, you are innocent in all investigations. Your scum partners are TheTrollie, Mehndi2277, Nachomamm8, and Maenara. You may speak to them in this QT, and only at night. You also have the power to vote, and win when the mafia outnumber all anti-mafia players in the game.

Transparent Townie

You are Toogeloo. You are very sensitive as to how others percieve you and play very differently depending on
your alignment. Therefore you are a Transparent Townie. You have the ability to quote your role pm. Also, anyone who targets you at night will receive your role pm instead of a night result. You may vote as normal, and win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

Mafia 1x Executioner

You are nachomamm8. People seem to think you are scum a lot. Therefore you are the Mafia 1 time executioner.
Once per game, if a non-mafia player has reached half of their required votes, you may send an order to have them killed. All mafia night actions must be finalized by the godfather. Your mafia partners are Nero Cain, The Trollie, Mehdi2277, and Maenara. You may speak with them at this QT, and only during the night. You may vote as normal, and as a mafia player, you win when the mafia outnumber all anti-town players.

Town Lightning Rod

You are MattP. You rage post a lot and people always have strong opinions about you. Therefore you are Town Lightning Rod. Once per game, you may pm the mod at night to cause all night action results to be redirected towards you. You may vote as normal, and as a townie win when all anti-town players have been eliminated.

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[The Baltimore Sun]

You may vote as normal, and as a mafia player, you win when the mafia outnumber all anti-town players.

^ Doesn't this mean mafia won when Bitmap died <_<

(Something like this works far better if alignments are randomised, btw. The reason I didn't join was I would be pretty obviously scum. Also think the town had way too many confirmable townie roles "(watcher/lightning rod is a wicked combination, add a jailer to protect the lightning rod and welp) (and of course if the lightning rod doesn't claim the mafia doctor will protect him, too) Some of the role interactions were ridiculous OP for town - even though they did play well. Although I'm not even sure arcangel has been scum on the forum so, making her scum in this game was obviously not a thing, either.

[MonkeyMan576]

Regarding the mod error, this is the interaction via pm between me and venmar. He basically sent me like 5 pms in one night and I lost track of his night action and didn't see it. It's totally my fault, but there were mitigating circumstances.

What is the hypothetical interaction between my Jailkeep and a Lightning rod? Would I cancel the lightning rod due to my roleblock or would they still attract everyone? What if I targeted someone else but was pulled by the rod, would I then cancel further rod pulls due to my roleblock?

Also, I block ALL nightkills on my target, right?

Yes you block all night kills. Hypothetically assuming there is a lightning rod, if you jailkept them they would not be able to use their action. If a hypothetical lightning rod used their power and you used your power on someone else, you would be redirected to the lightning rod and they would be jailkept, assuming no other interference.

- Sooo... in both situations i basically cockblock them and prevent them from pulling everyone?

A Framer is not bastard, any more than a miller is. I don't understand your second question. I can't give you game advice.

Venmar wrote:
Well, I meant in the quote that even if i target a rod or if i don't target them, and they use their power, in both situations my roleblock would stop them from pulling EVERYONE ELSE, am i correct? This is just a technical question I have.

If you jailkeep the lightning rod, unless someone interferes with your action, then the lighning rod ability would be fully roleblocked.

Lol nevermind dude. Those are some heavy questions and I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable or pressured.

I'd like to jailkeep Nachomamma

I'm not uncomfortable at all. You have a right to know how your role works.

[MonkeyMan576]

You may vote as normal, and as a mafia player, you win when the mafia outnumber all anti-town players.

^ Doesn't this mean mafia won when Bitmap died <_<

(Something like this works far better if alignments are randomised, btw. The reason I didn't join was I would be pretty obviously scum. Also think the town had way too many confirmable townie roles "(watcher/lightning rod is a wicked combination, add a jailer to protect the lightning rod and welp) (and of course if the lightning rod doesn't claim the mafia doctor will protect him, too) Some of the role interactions were ridiculous OP for town - even though they did play well. Although I'm not even sure arcangel has been scum on the forum so, making her scum in this game was obviously not a thing, either.

yeah, I corrected the win condition. There was a random element to the mafia, I took everyone's posts per day and put them into a lottery with one ticket per post per day, and the top 5 players were mafia. So it was really a mix.

[The Baltimore Sun]

Weird. I'd have picked most of those as mafia anyway, tbh. (Just based on meta, I think)

[Venmar]

This game has been a total town annihilation and faceroll, No mislynches, all mafias lynched and the only town death was a mod error.

Congrats to Bitmap for being a bigger pain in the butt than my annoying childhood friend, and to pretty much the whole town, namely Mattp and Peregrine, both of who helped win the game.

[MattP]

FTR there was only ONE town death the entire game, not including me

[Venmar]

Mattp, you and I make a decent team , so I tried to save you every night i could

[MonkeyMan576]

Any comments on the game setup?

[Maenara]

Mehdi and Trollie focused way too much on me in the beginning. I went to bed around post 37, and woke up around post 292. By that time, the two of them had already helped Matt piece together the three of us as a team, due to them constantly mentioning me for no reason at all

That, uh, was a bit demoralizing.

As for the setup, well, yeah. Too swingy, too many confirmables, too easily breakable. But I'm hardly neutral there, so whatever.

Should we link to dead and scum topics? Our scum topic was... Well, mostly desperate.

On that topic, Nacho, you promised tears of blood. I demand pictures.

[MonkeyMan576]

Yeah I'll get the QT's in a sec.

[Venmar]

I'll have to agree that if you're going to put a Lightning Rod in the game, you will make it very swingy especially with a watcher and a jailkeeper. I just think the town was good on emphasizing on this however, because our first 3 lynches + kills ( Maenara - Bitmap - TheTrollie ) were not the result of night actions but by the scumhunting of Mattp, me, and some others. There rest of the scum team was pretty much destroyed because of the lightning rod and watcher combo, and the last was because I was lucky enough to guess the last scum.

There were a nice number of confirmed townies though, and in this kind of game where you already limited the day killer, you couldn't expect this game to be easy AT ALL for the scum or Bitmap.

[MonkeyMan576]

Yeah, I would be a bit more careful with the roles I picked in the future, and I didn't predict the Watcher/Lighning Rod/Doctor combo. I felt a swingy game would be better than giving players vanilla townie roles for basically no reason, in a game where there were supposed to be roles based on gameplay. So yeah I'd do things differently, this was highly experimental. Maybe I'll try it again sometime with a different methodology.

[MonkeyMan576]

Yeah, I would be a bit more careful with the roles I picked in the future, and I didn't predict the Watcher/Lighning Rod/Doctor combo. I felt a swingy game would be better than giving players vanilla townie roles for basically no reason, in a game where there were supposed to be roles based on gameplay. So yeah I'd do things differently, this was highly experimental. Maybe I'll try it again sometime with a different methodology.