Mini 1420: The Beginning Of The End (Game Over)

[Kthxbye]

Joel is town

[Kthxbye]

Btw, not even close to caught up in this game. Been skimming along.

[Dannflor]

Actually, I do see what Mr.Frog is talking about in the past that Jenn wrote. Jenn was shown a short evidence about Dannflor's suspicion on myself and Jenn responded by simply saying "Fair enough" then changing her vote on to me.

That's true. However, both you and MrFrog have done exactly the same thing, no?

[DeathRowKitty]

(Also, "lighten up, dammit" is a reference to someone's signature.)

Errr...title. I meant title.

Re: stuff directed at me
I voted Jennifer because her initial sequence of two posts seems very dissonant to me. She comes in with what seems to be a serious vote:

@Dannflor Why are you avoiding the Trollie wagon? And why did you keep your vote on Slaandar when questioning Elleran for defending Trollie?

Then Dannflor gives a kinda strange explanation of an unexciting situation, votes Elleran, and Jennifer turns a 180 and votes Dannflor's target. What changed her mind? If Dannflor's explanation was enough to make Jennifer move her vote, I find it strange she wasn't voting Elleran over Dannflor to begin with. If Dannflor's vote for Elleran upon being asked why he was voting Elleran is what made her move her vote...well, I don't think I need to explain what would be strange about that.

[Dannflor]

Then Dannflor gives a kinda strange explanation of an unexciting situation, votes Elleran, and Jennifer turns a 180 and votes Dannflor's target. What changed her mind? If Dannflor's explanation was enough to make Jennifer move her vote, I find it strange she wasn't voting Elleran over Dannflor to begin with. If Dannflor's vote for Elleran upon being asked why he was voting Elleran is what made her move her vote...well, I don't think I need to explain what would be strange about that.

Now this I do see. But as I said before, Elleran did exactly the same thing, turning a 180 onto Trollies wagon based on something q21 said. It's exactly the same situation.

[DeathRowKitty]

DRK, why did you change votes so quickly?

I don't know, man. I really thought my first vote was onto some deep mysteries of the universe and it pained me deeply to change it. If not for the wild hallucinations that told me to vote Jennifer instead, I probably would have ridden that Trollie vote to my grave.

Quid pro quo doc, why haven't you voted anyone? Do you feel your vote is better used doing nothing?

[DeathRowKitty]

Then Dannflor gives a kinda strange explanation of an unexciting situation, votes Elleran, and Jennifer turns a 180 and votes Dannflor's target. What changed her mind? If Dannflor's explanation was enough to make Jennifer move her vote, I find it strange she wasn't voting Elleran over Dannflor to begin with. If Dannflor's vote for Elleran upon being asked why he was voting Elleran is what made her move her vote...well, I don't think I need to explain what would be strange about that.

Now this I do see. But as I said before, Elleran did exactly the same thing, turning a 180 onto Trollies wagon based on something q21 said. It's exactly the same situation.

That was a non-serious vote. Trollie's hasn't posted.

[Dannflor]

That was a non-serious vote. Trollie's hasn't posted.

Touche'

Alright, who do you think is scummier and why? Jenn of Elleran? I know it's obv Jenn but I'd like further explanation. I want to know exactly what your reads are on each oh them.

[joelsdaman1]

DRK, why did you change votes so quickly?

I don't know, man. I really thought my first vote was onto some deep mysteries of the universe and it pained me deeply to change it. If not for the wild hallucinations that told me to vote Jennifer instead, I probably would have ridden that Trollie vote to my grave.

Quid pro quo doc, why haven't you voted anyone? Do you feel your vote is better used doing nothing?

Actually...that's pretty fair.

Still looking around, haven't decided yet. I see no point in randomly voting at this point.

[DeathRowKitty]

Alright, who do you think is scummier and why? Jenn of Elleran? I know it's obv Jenn but I'd like further explanation. I want to know exactly what your reads are on each oh them.

Elleran has some strange takes on theory, but theory is theory is

fun

irrelevant. His original kind of strange dealings with the TheTrollie wagon are something I might have voted him for in a vacuum as a let's-get-out-of-the-"random"-stage-by-jumping-on-the-first-small-thing kind of vote (in fact, my pointing out of Trollie's avatar was more of a reaction test than it was playing along with his joke), but taken in the context of what he said when pressed on it, I don't find it suspicious. I'd say I'm leaning slightly town on him.

Jennifer right now is suspecto numero uno for me. I have a suspecto numero dos, but I'd prefer to keep that under wraps for the time being. It makes me feel like a spy. I know you're jealous~

[Elleran]

Now this I do see. But as I said before, Elleran did exactly the same thing, turning a 180 onto Trollies wagon based on something q21 said. It's exactly the same situation.

It was actually what Mr.Frog had said, not q21. q21 and I were playing Mathia, if you remember correctly. Mr.Frog had shown me the picture of TheTrollie (Who by the way has not posted a single time yet) and it made me realize that I really needed a ride, so I got aboard the TrollieTrain. Mr.Frog seems to have a way with revealing the deep mysteries of the universe.

PEDIT: Well... Knowing my own role, I do not find myself suspicious. This leads me to conclude that Jenn is more suspicious than I am.

[Jennifer]

Then Dannflor gives a kinda strange explanation of an unexciting situation, votes Elleran, and Jennifer turns a 180 and votes Dannflor's target. What changed her mind? If Dannflor's explanation was enough to make Jennifer move her vote, I find it strange she wasn't voting Elleran over Dannflor to begin with. If Dannflor's vote for Elleran upon being asked why he was voting Elleran is what made her move her vote...well, I don't think I need to explain what would be strange about that.

Dannflor didn't avoid the question and provided a reason for keeping his vote. Given the state of the game of the time, that sufficed. And why would I vote for Elleran first? I was busy probing Dannflor.

He didn't avoid the question, gave a reason, so I moved on to probing Elleran.

@DRK Do you buy Elleran's convoluted excuses versus reason explanation?

@Kthxbye What gives you a town read on Joel?

[Dannflor]

Right now I don't think one of Jenn or Elleran is scummier than the other. I find them both scummy in their respective ways, however I will keep my vote on Elleran(thus, in a way I find Elleran scummier), mainly because of his WIFOM defense. I also found Jenn's switch to Elleran a little more natural for some reason, at least I didn't notice it like I noticed Elleran. Come to think of it I might've been blinded by the fact that Jenn was voting me.

Elleran. I don't want any of your stupid excuse argument. I just want a straight answer. Why did you turn around and decide The Trollie was a better target than q21? If I'm not mistaken you were beating him is Mathia... I don't understand how MrFrog could have changed your mind so easily.

I know you're jealous~

You flatter yourself...

[Om]

4 pages overnight? really? -_-

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2) To find scum, we must find good excuses for our actions.

Skimming though, I don't like this thought process. I still don't see you replying to q21's comment on it. Or did I miss it?

Early read; Dannflor & q21 looks good for town.

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I want Slaandar to post.

Why?

Why not?

Do you think voting me will increase the chance that I will post?

It should. Because I'm seriously not liking whatever you've posted so far and it reeks scummy.

GoodMorning; Do you like playing town? Do you like playing scum? which is your favourite? why?

And to top it off with pointless RQS questions?
GG

Vote: Slandaar

[JasonWazza]

VOTE COUNT 1.2

[3] Elleran: q21, Dannflor, Jennifer,
[2] TheTrollie: Elleran, Kthxbye,
[2] Jennifer: Rondar, DeathRowKitty,
[1] Joelsdaman: goodmorning,
[1] Slandaar: Om,

Not Voting: Ztife, Slandaar, joelsdaman, TheTrollie

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-02-15 14:08:45)

EDIT: the title of our game has been edited due to that being our actual number rather then the one i was given

[Rondar]

Because that last post was a pile of fail.


[This post was intended for 2:28 am (GMT + 2) 2/2/2013. Power went out just as I was about to post this:]
Yeah, I just reskimmed your ISO [

@Dannflor

]. The sort of towny things are generic enough to be easily faked, and nothing is particularly scummy. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised that I'm having this much trouble getting anything with your amount of contribution compared to the others.
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But since then, honestly, your scumread of Elleran has set me off. I know he's different, weird even, but in a strikingly towny way, imo.

I think he is genuinely enjoying having theory discussions, and I feel that he kind of wants to apply the theory to help the town? Does that make sense? In addition, reading his last page just gave me a town vibe

About Jenni, more speculation on my vote please (it's actually pretty lame, but still, this is fun). Kitty, why are you voting them too? What stood out for you?
So...

@Jen

: not responding decisively to two votes on you isn't helping your case, sorry to say.

Scum found

EBWOP (My first post in the game): I think my '@Elleran' was meant for Dannflor.

Also,

@Mod

: Can you give the game a cool name? =3 (and delete that last duplicate-post?)

Mod: What duplicate post
Also i have no ideas for a name to be perfectly honest with everyone, but if i get an inkling of creativity i will add one and possibly some flavor.

[Rondar]

Ahah, sneaky. Ok then. How about Freaks' Mafia? It has a ring to it. No basis whatsoever though.

[Elleran]

Elleran. I don't want any of your stupid excuse argument. I just want a straight answer. Why did you turn around and decide The Trollie was a better target than q21? If I'm not mistaken you were beating him is Mathia... I don't understand how MrFrog could have changed your mind so easily.

If you haven't noticed from all my brilliant posts, it was a complete random change for no good reason at all. I'm honestly getting bored from all of this grilling about changing my vote to Trollie on the first page of the game.

[Elleran]

I have to be away for a few hours, but when I come back, I'll try to type out my thoughts on the current state of the game.

[TheTrollie]

I'm with limited access for today (and yesterday). Tomorrow I will be traveling. I will try to get something up here before monday but can't promise anything.

[Slandaar]

I want Slaandar to post.

Why?

Why not?

What kind of response is this? Thoughtless is the answer.

If he wants me to post there must be a reason behind it; it was 1 hour into game start so why does he want me to post? does he think I am not going to post without him voting me? (obviously not)

Do you think voting me will increase the chance that I will post?

It should. Because I'm seriously not liking whatever you've posted so far and it reeks scummy.

This response makes no sense; see top comment and how what I say relates to it.

Why is it more likely I will post if I am being voted? Do Explain.

GoodMorning; Do you like playing town? Do you like playing scum? which is your favourite? why?

And to top it off with pointless RQS questions?
GG

Vote: Slandaar

Wasn't Random, Wasn't Pointless, if it was RQS I would have asked everyone.

Your fake scumhunting is easy to see through.

GG as you say
VOTE: Om

[Slandaar]

I would be willing to bet Om put 2 minutes thought into his post and picked what looked like the fluff poster to vote

Lynch him, hes scum.

[Om]

If he wants me to post there must be a reason behind it; it was 1 hour into game start so why does he want me to post? does he think I am not going to post without him voting me? (obviously not)

To get your participation and get read off you since you two have played with each other before, maybe? I do that with people I've played with as well. The very fact that you go and overreact to it by asking 'why' on RVS stage raises my eyebrow.

Why is it more likely I will post if I am being voted? Do Explain.

Ask yourself that, you sure as hell posted something worth whenever you received vote. Hell; your ISO has posts only replying to votes on you, except your 53. Which is practically consist of random useless questions. And yes, they are till I see what's their point.

Wasn't Random, Wasn't Pointless,

It is and

that is what

fake scumhunting looks like.

GG as you say
VOTE: Om

Nice OMIGUS btw.

Is this your first time playing as scum?

[q21]

Dis dude(tte), dis dude(tte): Jennifer
I have a valid reason/excuse (Haha) for voting them, but I want to try something: What is the reason/excuse I'm thinking of!? Mind-Boggling.

I don't like this at all. Asking the town to defend your vote for you is bad. Just bad. I don't particularly like the way DRK came in and almost seemed to be advocating for Rondar either. DRK did eventually give some explanation for voting Jennifer, but only after being asked a few times and playing stupid question stupid answer, which seems at odds with DRK's assertion that her (or his, I dunno) Jenn vote was serious - for all the there is a sliver (no more) of validity to DRK's eventually given reasons.

Reads like scumbuddies, or scum buddying up to a townie. Either way the impression I get out of that exchange is that DRK is scummy.

Getting board of my Elleran vote.

Unvote

VOTE: DeathRowKitty

Note - Joel's posting is still paper thin on the participation front and he still hasn't actually committed to any point of view in the form of a vote. Not long before this starts becoming a serious reason to look at him as scum.

[goodmorning]

This game. Just... this game.

Om, Why voting Slandaar? Rondar has posted little as well, as have I and joels and Trollie.

Man, I have some questions I'll try to get to this evening.