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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:59 pm

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Scooby how bout some reasoning. When people catch up i expect lots of text

Wtf is this

Lets test

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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:02 pm

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that setup seems so unbalanced...

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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:10 pm

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Voidedmafia wrote:What's the point in this, Kat?


Also,
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:37 pm

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Someone who knows shouls explain wtf
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:48 pm

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Voidedmafia wrote:
Voidedmafia wrote:What's the point in this, Kat?


Also,
!xmafia scum randomization


<3

That also reminds me of something...

!xmafia testsetup wacky 13 x10
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:50 pm

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Distracting from scum hunting eh Katsuki
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:17 pm

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!vote katsuki
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:54 am

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To cut down on requests to the mod I'll drop this old link here:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=12368

There are a few "secret" roles missing from the list. The ones I can remember are Advanced Doppelganger (kills people to leave a Mutilated Corpse, takes on their role and learns their night action to allow them to falseclaim, SK I think) and Thing From Beyond (has 4 one-shot kill abilities - I think they're kill, eradicate (kills and prevents revival), superkill (hits through protection and kill immunity), poison (delayed kill). SK and possibly town).

The other Xylbot hint I have is that Combat Medic is fake like 90% of the time.

scooby's posts seem pretty good, I'll put him as town for now.

xRECKONERx wrote:Distracting from scum hunting eh Katsuki

Yeah basically.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:58 am

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Katsuki wrote:
!xmafia testsetup wacky 19

||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: One-Shot Redirecter, Pillar of the Community, Anti-Doctor, Sibling; survivor: Shuffler; town: Green Goo, Hot Nurse, Reincarnator, Watcher, Retired Arsonist, Secret Role (Ascetic), Magic Lamp, Sibling, Townie (x4), Secret Role (Townie), Townie (Death Miller)

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!xmafia scum randomization

||| MAFIABOT || Unknown command.

Katsuki wrote:
!xmafia testsetup wacky 13 x10

||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Mafioso, Paranoid Suicide Bomber; mafia2: Redirecter, Frame Artist; town: Cop, Reviver, Witch, Cheerleader, Magistrate, Unlynchable, Reviver (False), Secret Role (Ascetic), Townie (SK Miller)
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Tracker, Mafioso; sk1: Death Arsonist; sk2: Serial Killer; town: Census Taker, Kill-Immune Townie, Darwin, Day Cop (Naive), Delayer, Unlynchable, Sleeper Bodyguard, Townie, Cop (Naive)
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Mafioso, Eavesdropper; mafia2: Disabler, Watcher; town: Double Voter, Mystery Role (Mad Monk), Role Cop (0%), Retired Arsonist, Eavesdropper, Ascetic, Cop (Naive), Radiant, Townie (Death Miller)
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Doctor, Mafioso, Hitman; sk: Poisoner; survivor: Ascetic; town: Anarchist, Reviver, Sleeper Vigilante, Sleeper Reviver, Voteblocker, Mystery Role (Magnet), Townie (x2)
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Day Disabler, Cheater; mafia2: Mafioso, Ascetic; town: Double Voter, Cop, Gunsmith, Coward, Townie (x4), Skulker
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Role Cop, Frame Artist; town: Turncoat, Cop, Faerie Godmother, Death Vigilante, Magistrate, Cop (Random), Townie (Miller), Sibling (x2); wolf: Beta Werewolf, Alpha Werewolf
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] cult: Cult Leader; mafia: Reflecter, Godfather; town: Mason (x2), Cop, Mutant, Amnesiac (Jackie Chan), Disabler, Super-Saint, Cheerleader, Doctor (Quack), Townie (SK Miller)
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Role Cop, Mafioso; mafia2: Godfather, Spy; town: Cop, Mystery Role (Inventor), Doctor, Thief, Nervous Watchman, Super-Saint, Day Cop (Naive), Townie, Townie (Death Miller)
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] sk: Vampire; town: Vigilante, Jack of All Trades, Combat Medic, Magistrate, Townie (x3), Secret Role (Green Goo), Lovestruck Townie; wolf: Beta Werewolf, Vicious Werewolf, Alpha Werewolf
||| MAFIABOT || [wacky] mafia: Doctor, Mugger, Secret Admirer; survivor1: Ascetic; survivor2: Witch; town: Double Voter, Bomb, Turquoise Goo, Delayer, Death Vigilante, Role Cop (0%), Mystery Role (Magnet), Lovestruck Townie
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:12 am

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For the secret roles in the test setups:
- I think Sensei is a recruiting mason who can recruit one other player, and that player gets a kill.
- Darwin is either an Evolver, or he can Evolve other people, don't remember.
- Death Vigilante has a vengekill, I think? Possibly also normal vigilante powers.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:52 am

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voided


Voidedmafia wrote:And since when has asking for more information been useless?


I don't think that asking questions or getting more information is useless. I
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think that questions that don't actually add up to anything are more likely to come from scum because scum aren't actually scumhunting but just pretending to scumhunt.

Voidedmafia wrote:But...why ignore the source and attack those on the edge, so to speak? What's the point in attacking those commenting around the incident when you probably don't look like you understand what's going on?


I don't see it that way (I still think that his opinion on the claim is apparent his post), but I can see where you're coming from now.

Voidedmafia wrote:If his reasoning was intact at the time of the vote, and if that was so incredibly obvious, why wait until after you're questioned (or after you've voted) to actually post those reasons?


Do you find that the reasoning given to be fake or manufactured after the fact? I'd rather discuss the content of the reasoning than the timing of the posts, which I don't see as a scumtell.

Voidedmafia wrote:Scooby, Lucky is full of filler, yes, but it doesn't really feel like scumfiller to me. I wouldn't want to lynch him right now, though.


Could you expound on this a bit? What exactly doesn't feel like scumfiller to you?

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Like I said before it was pretty obvious that he thought the best decision was to ignore Reck. And questioning him further wasn't really going to accomplish anything as you quickly found out.

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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:13 am

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What happened here. Anyone notice how many suicide bombers where in those test setups...

You guys can hate me all you want but I cant get clear reads in this game.

The 2 people I find most scummy are kthxbye, katsuki.

katsuki for his recent posts spamming weird commands.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:09 am

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The Mini-Librarian wrote:I don't think that asking questions or getting more information is useless. I do think that questions that don't actually add up to anything are more likely to come from scum because scum aren't actually scumhunting but just pretending to scumhunt.

I suppose I can't begrudge you for thinking the questions didn't seem to have a purpose in and of themselves (I personally think they had some merit, but I could see why you'd think otherwise). However, it felt to me like you were jumping the gun in calling them useless, when it was entirely possible that Zang had follow-up questions in store depending on the answer (barring an answer that completely stumped him, anyways). They looked to me like questions that would hold town or scum motivation behind them based on the follow-up done to them, or the lack thereof.

The Mini-Librarian wrote:I don't see it that way (I still think that his opinion on the claim is apparent his post), but I can see where you're coming from now.

It didn't really look like he had seen, much less understood, what Reck had done to me, so him attacking those that had seen it just looked really ignorant. Or possibly forced.

The Mini-Librarian wrote:Do you find that the reasoning given to be fake or manufactured after the fact? I'd rather discuss the content of the reasoning than the timing of the posts, which I don't see as a scumtell.

Well, looking at his original reasoning back on page 3, I don't quite understand the "sheeping x2" portion. I went back over those pages to see if he did sheep, and post 49 doesn't feel like he's sheeping onto lynching Reck at all (and AFAIR he was practically the only one who was talking about this as some sort of Reckploy).

The rolefishing has already been shown to be a null point, and the part about indifference doesn't seem to be something to single kthnx about, as it feels like some people on the wagon were indifferent to what his alignment was and just didn't want to deal with the potential PR (and I'd admit I would've been in that group).

As a whole, I can't exactly say it's manufactured, as at least two of the three reasons are undoubtedly shown by kthnx, but his attempts to paint kthnx as scummy for them despite there being enough indications for them to only be anti-town at worse doesn't make me want to believe his case.

The Mini-Librarian wrote:Could you expound on this a bit? What exactly doesn't feel like scumfiller to you?

Honestly...it really just feels like someone who doesn't know what the hell he's doing/forgotten how to play mafia and is bumbling along in an attempt to help and scumhunt. It looks like stupid nonsense (and I won't deny that it looks like that to me, too), but it doesn't look like scum trying to fake scumhunting.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:20 am

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Voidedmafia wrote:I suppose I can't begrudge you for thinking the questions didn't seem to have a purpose in and of themselves (I personally think they had some merit, but I could see why you'd think otherwise). However, it felt to me like you were jumping the gun in calling them useless, when it was entirely possible that Zang had follow-up questions in store depending on the answer (barring an answer that completely stumped him, anyways). They looked to me like questions that would hold town or scum motivation behind them based on the follow-up done to them, or the lack thereof.


Meh, it might've been a little premature, but I saw something I found scummy and voted it. not gonna apologize for that.

Voidedmafia wrote:Well, looking at his original reasoning back on page 3, I don't quite understand the "sheeping x2" portion. I went back over those pages to see if he did sheep, and post 49 doesn't feel like he's sheeping onto lynching Reck at all (and AFAIR he was practically the only one who was talking about this as some sort of Reckploy).

The rolefishing has already been shown to be a null point, and the part about indifference doesn't seem to be something to single kthnx about, as it feels like some people on the wagon were indifferent to what his alignment was and just didn't want to deal with the potential PR (and I'd admit I would've been in that group).

As a whole, I can't exactly say it's manufactured, as at least two of the three reasons are undoubtedly shown by kthnx, but his attempts to paint kthnx as scummy for them despite there being enough indications for them to only be anti-town at worse doesn't make me want to believe his case.


See, this is a protown way of addressing his reasoning. Actually trying to figure out if the reasoning given makes sense or not rather than trying to determine if the timing of the posts were relevant somehow. (btw, I agree with you especially about the rolefishing and I never see a singular instance of sheeping as a scumtell, only if it's a consistent part of their play.)
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:24 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Distracting from scum hunting eh Katsuki


I'm having more fun seeing these generated setups than I am playing this game. Which is sad, you guys are terribly boring.

That being said, this is a very odd statement coming from you, Reck.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:25 am

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Luckyjt wrote:
katsuki for his recent posts spamming weird commands


How does this make me scum.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:27 am

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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:29 am

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It is. You're more wont to make such a statement against me when you're scum than when you're town.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:35 am

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nice meta you pulled out of your ass there
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:35 am

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Katsuki wrote:It is. You're more wont to make such a statement against me when you're scum than when you're town.

Explain/give meta?
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:38 am

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The Mini-Librarian wrote:
Katsuki wrote:It is. You're more wont to make such a statement against me when you're scum than when you're town.

Explain/give meta?


Reck is one of the players on this site I read well. Granted it's not as well as my ability to read Fate or Spyspy, but it's up there.

It's not so much meta as it is their approach to playing town or scum that differs (well I guess you could call that meta, meh).


I hadn't had a scumread on Reck though, which is what makes that statement of his so odd.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:42 am

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:47 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:nice meta you pulled out of your ass there

Quite. I didn't find you scummy before this page. I'd like to think I wouldve had a stronger read earlier but it might come from my not reading this game.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:48 am

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Katsuki wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:nice meta you pulled out of your ass there

Quite. I didn't find you scummy before this page. I'd like to think I wouldve had a stronger read earlier but it might come from my not reading this game.


umm... This should be at Reck #196.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:49 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:nice meta you pulled out of your ass there


As for this, lolnope not what I do ever.
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