Micro 134 (F11) (Game Over!)

[Zachrulez]

1st vote count of day 1:

Sixty - 4 (Sotty7, Dazed and Confused, Cogito Ergo Sum, JasonT1981)
Cogito Ergo Sum - 1 (Sixty)
Sotty7 -1 (RachMarie)
Dazed and Confused - 1 (Nachomamma8)


Not Voting: (FourTrouble, Josh Lyman)

Deadline: (expired on 2013-03-11 14:30:00)

[RachMarie]

Do you have any reasoning?? Something resembling oh a case for example?

Pedit (that was to JasonT)

[Dazed and Confused]

Is CES Town?

Erm, you know as well as I do that I can't read CES for shit. One of the first things I asked Mina during pre-game was whether she could read CES with any sort of confidence and she basically said "no" but there were some things to look out for. Given that she's hydra'd with the guy as town more than once and they've played a lot more together than we have, I'm pretty much deferring to her on CES.

Actually, let's give you something that you might have to brain about a bit more, Empire. Is Rach Town?

Overall, tonally she comes off a bit forced but I remember reading some of the games she was in and I think she's like that as both alignments. First impression of Rach's #12 was that it seemed like hollow posturing about something easy but #20 seems ok in that I don't think she would suddenly take the whole "sucking up to CES" angle as scum (she presumably knows CES is sharp as town too, no?). Ask me again in a few pages though because it's still page 1 and I don't have much confidence in anything right now.

Well, except one thing: would you believe me if I townread you after your second post?

Unvote, vote: Jason

[RachMarie]

Yep that is my thought too Jason comes in, puts someone at L-1 and pushes for a hammer, and gives no reasoning, no case, nothing.

That was a quick RVS...

VOTE: JasonT

Explain yourself....


As for CES, I played in a Newbie game with him that was not much of a Newbie game. He guessed the scum team practically off the bat. (He was the Doc in that game and we had a JK as well). Tierce was in that game too. So I know he is a smart cookie as town, so therefore I will be examining him carefully because I am sure he is also very good at playing scum.

[Sixty]

Yes, jason, let's put an hydra of two good players (whom you have seen as Town before) at L-1 in a game with Josh Lyman, because that's a really bright idea.

Is CES Town?

Erm, you know as well as I do that I can't read CES for shit. One of the first things I asked Mina during pre-game was whether she could read CES with any sort of confidence and she basically said "no" but there were some things to look out for. Given that she's hydra'd with the guy as town more than once and they've played a lot more together than we have, I'm pretty much deferring to her on CES.

And here I hoped we could quicklynch him again for giggles. Stop being logical and boring, you'll make the other puppyhalf sad.

Actually, let's give you something that you might have to brain about a bit more, Empire. Is Rach Town?

Overall, tonally she comes off a bit forced but I remember reading some of the games she was in and I think she's like that as both alignments. First impression of Rach's #12 was that it seemed like hollow posturing about something easy but #20 seems ok in that I don't think she would suddenly take the whole "sucking up to CES" angle as scum (she presumably knows CES is sharp as town too, no?). Ask me again in a few pages though because it's still page 1 and I don't have much confidence in anything right now.

Now

that

's more like it. Yes, her writing can come across forced as Town, and from what I skimmed of one or two of her scum games, it's more a playstyle thing than anything else. And yes, Rach knows CES as Town from a newbie game and Author Mafia, at least, where he was on the ball on both instances. (Fake edit: what the lady said.)

Well, except one thing: would you believe me if I townread you after your second post?

Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you saying you Townread me (hi! You really should!) and this is mostly a rhetorical throwaway comment, or are you

actually

asking if I should believe you Townread us at that point?


Rach--why no input on the two hydras?

[Sixty]

Oh, something else--Empire, do you think #20 can be scum-scum?

[Sotty7]

I already feel out of the loop in this game.

That would be a ballsy move for ScumJason, lets see what he comes back with. Right now, I'm not buying it.

Why would Rach have input on the hydras beyond "oh there are two hydras in the game, fancy that?"

I take it Josh is a quick hammer waiting to happen?

[Dazed and Confused]

So I know he is a smart cookie as town, so therefore I will be examining him carefully because I am sure he is also very good at playing scum.

How does one lead to the other?

Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you saying you Townread me (hi! You really should!) and this is mostly a rhetorical throwaway comment, or are you

actually

asking if I should believe you Townread us at that point?

A bit of both, but primarily the latter.

P-edit: @Tierce: I...was literally just considering that possibility and I guess? But if scum have pre-game chat (and I think that's the case or at least it was during the two completed games I had as scum), wouldn't CES have the foresight to coach her against that kind of distancing given her attitude when signing up for the game?

I feel like I'm heading way too far into tinfoil theory and it's only fucking page 2.

[RachMarie]

Working on that. It takes me a while, especially since I have only played with 1 of the 4 in games before, as far as I know. NS knows Empire, but I don't think I have seen him posting will have to look for non hydra games he is in. Vi and Mina I have seen in non game postings but not played a game with before. So again will be taking a look. It is obvious that both sets of hydras know each other well, and I need to determine if it is buddying or not. For my research any links ya all can provide will be mucho appreciated ♥

[RachMarie]

I have not talked to CES since the non game post I can find the link iffen you want.

[Dazed and Confused]

Rach, I'm the dude who wrote this and I've hydra'd with Tierce as town twice + she's one of the few people who've actually seen me as scum so we both know how to read each other fairly well. Most recent completed town game is here and I link both my completed scum games in this post.

[jasonT1981]

1) Didn't realize Sixty was hydra... even with knowing that it wouldn't change my vote.

2) I will reveal my reasons,not right now though.... I want everyone to weigh in on the issue first

[Sotty7]

I feel like I'm heading way too far into tinfoil theory and it's only fucking page 2.

Pretty much this.

I do like that I am basically staring into your thought process though, so carry on.

[Sixty]

Why would Rach have input on the hydras beyond "oh there are two hydras in the game, fancy that?"

Not on the hydras, but the slots. She is commenting on votes, but did not comment on how she feels about our slot, for example, and hasn't mentioned the other hydra yet.

Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you saying you Townread me (hi! You really should!) and this is mostly a rhetorical throwaway comment, or are you

actually

asking if I should believe you Townread us at that point?

A bit of both, but primarily the latter.

If you know me at all, you know that I am pretty much always convinced I'm obvTown as Town, but I have little idea what makes me so (even with your megapost). And I've seen you call out alignments with 66%+ accuracy on pages 1 and 2, so it wouldn't surprise me if you had seen the obvious by then.

Oh, something else--Empire, do you think #20 can be scum-scum?

@Tierce: I...was literally just considering that possibility and I guess? But if scum have pre-game chat (and I think that's the case or at least it was during the two completed games I had as scum), wouldn't CES have the foresight to coach her against that kind of distancing given her attitude when signing up for the game?

I feel like I'm heading way too far into tinfoil theory and it's only fucking page 2.

It was a legitimate y/n question, not a leading one. I think Post 20 means they are not scum together. That beginning was way too natural for someone who has some awkwardish writing--I don't think she would buddy up to her own scumbuddy in those conditions.

@Rach: Tierce/Games and Statistics and Vi/Games and Statistics.

I'm waiting for the next sign of the Apocalypse right now. Empire appears to be the same alignment we are and

Town

. Obviously this means there is something very wrong with the universe and my luck is about to run out

somehow

.


What the bloody hell, jason? How did you go through the entirety of Dresden Files Mafia without realizing it was Vi + Tierce? We weren't exactly

shy

about the fact that there were two different people behind the puppy. Shape it up.

[Sixty]

Why would Rach have input on the hydras beyond "oh there are two hydras in the game, fancy that?"

Not on the hydras, but the slots. She is commenting on votes, but did not comment on how she feels about our slot, for example, and hasn't mentioned the other hydra yet.

This was written before #33 and I forgot to add a fake-edit that she's apparently working on etc. Carry on.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

P-edit: @Tierce: I...was literally just considering that possibility and I guess? But if scum have pre-game chat (and I think that's the case or at least it was during the two completed games I had as scum), wouldn't CES have the foresight to coach her against that kind of distancing given her attitude when signing up for the game?

That sounds silly.

Unvote, vote: Nacho

[RachMarie]

Thanks for changing CES, it is too early for a lynch, and I have played with FT before it would not surprise me if he came in and hammered without paying attention. I don't know Josh, but I gather from what was said that he too tends to derp.

Besides Nacho needs to get in here with more than just an RVS vote.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Sickened and Nauseated already switched their vote.

[Nachomamma8]

1) Didn't realize Sixty was hydra... even with knowing that it wouldn't change my vote.

2) I will reveal my reasons,not right now though.... I want everyone to weigh in on the issue first

what issue do we need to weigh in on?

Besides Nacho needs to get in here with more than just an RVS vote.

that wasn't an RVS vote.

[RachMarie]

oops missed that I was reading the links.

Empire you are quite a waller... And I can see why you know my bf so well, been in a few games with him. Even scum buds together. Also the comment of (I presume it was Tierce on this one), of Empire and we being in the same alignment being the end of the world makes sense now.

As for whether the slots are Town or not, I really need more data to work with guys n gals.

We have two players we have heard nothing from. And a couple that have not said much yet.... Leaving it pretty skewed atm for a big picture person like me.

I am also feeling a bit out of my league here... WOW how did you find the time to do all of that in your Wiki Tierce? Mine is woefully out of date and extremely basic.

Pedit It wasn't??? then why did you vote for D and C?

[FourTrouble]

I have played with FT before it would not surprise me if he came in and hammered without paying attention.

What the fuck are you talking about? I was the only townie making any sense in that game. I had Majiffy down as scum on D1, called that Thor was recruited by Cult, and was trying to tell you guys that Voided was town too. You guys lynched me for the loss, if you remember. It had nothing to do with me derping or not paying attention, either.

Vote Rach

[RachMarie]

Wrong game FT

[Nachomamma8]

I have played with FT before it would not surprise me if he came in and hammered without paying attention.

What the fuck are you talking about? I was the only townie making any sense in that game. I had Majiffy down as scum on D1, called that Thor was recruited by Cult, and was trying to tell you guys that Voided was town too. You guys lynched me for the loss, if you remember. It had nothing to do with me derping or not paying attention, either.

Vote Rach

but that was another game
what makes rach scum in this one?

[FourTrouble]

Wrong game FT

Um, which game are you referring to then? You're trying to discredit me as a player on the basis of some other game we played together, and that's the only one I remember playing with you, so...

[FourTrouble]

but that was another game
what makes rach scum in this one?

Well, besides the fact that she is misrepresenting my play in a different game (and calling my credibility into question on that basis), I also just don't like her posts in general. She is pretending to be more confused about things than I think she really is, and her vote on Jason just seemed like the easiest person to lodge a vote on instead of it being real scumhunting.