Micro 134 (F11) (Game Over!)

[RachMarie]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=24690 Micro 102 is the game FT is referring to, He was the Town Cop I was VT. Majiffy the SK and Jacob Savage was the Cult Leader. We lynched him because of his play and the fact we figured that he had been recruited by then by the CL.

[Zachrulez]

2nd vote count of day 1:

Sixty - 2 (Sotty7, JasonT1981)
JasonT1981 - 2 (Dazed and Confused, RachMarie)
Cogito Ergo Sum - 1 (Sixty)
Dazed and Confused - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Cogito Ergo Sum)
RachMarie - 1 (FourTrouble)

Not Voting: (Josh Lyman)

Deadline: (expired on 2013-03-11 14:30:00)

[FourTrouble]

Rach, which game were YOU referring to?

[RachMarie]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23682 Open 456 Faith plus one

You were replaced and then I replaced into this game.... (which is the game I meant).


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=24293 Open 469 Medical Mafia

I replaced your slot in this one.

So I have seen your play in other games besides the one you remember.

[FourTrouble]

Ah, but getting replaced is not indicative of the way I actually play when I am active in a game. I didn't have access to a computer at the time of those games so I was somewhat inactive, but when I was active I was certainly paying attention enough to not hammer someone without giving it some serious thought. I don't see where you got the idea that I would quick lynch someone?

[RachMarie]

Cause I have seen it happen.

Besides I was not saying you are scum. you seem awfully defensive. I still have yet to determine who is scum and who is not.

[FourTrouble]

I know you are not saying I am scum, that's exactly the problem I have. If you thought I was scum, then sure you might reasonably be worried that I would hammer. This is not what you said though... You made explicit reference to my play AS town, not scum. The implication there is that you are worried I'd quick hammer because I am a careless townie who doesn't pay attention to the game.

[Dazed and Confused]

Rach, did you ever respond to my question in #32?

That would be a ballsy move for ScumJason, lets see what he comes back with. Right now, I'm not buying it.

My main concern is that that could be exactly what he's going for -- the L-1 vote and call for quickhammer in #23 feels a little too over-the-top and #36 is weird in that he doesn't outline whatever issue it is he wants us to "weigh in" on before he outs his reasons.

[RachMarie]

To answer your question D and C
I know there are people who play great as Town and lousy as Scum, but in general if they are really good at one they usually are really good at the other. CES is very hard for a lot of peeps to read, especially since he talks in one liners most of the time, and that adds to the whole need to really examine him carefully before deciding he is Town.

To answer your question FT it was RVS and we were on page 2. I have seen peeps come in and do their random vote without counting up the votes first.

[Sixty]

That would be a ballsy move for ScumJason, lets see what he comes back with. Right now, I'm not buying it.

My main concern is that that could be exactly what he's going for -- the L-1 vote and call for quickhammer in #23 feels a little too over-the-top and #36 is weird in that he doesn't outline whatever issue it is he wants us to "weigh in" on before he outs his reasons.

That was partially my concern too. Basically, the moment had passed, people had been swinging from one wagon to another, so:
- If it was about the votes on our slot, the momentum was gone and jason could out his reasons.
- If he wanted a hammer on page 1 as Town, he's an idiot--there would be no useful reactions for future Days, virtually no interactions, and we would be one Day/Night cycle into the game with dead Town and no information.
- If he was scum wanting a quickhammer on competent Town, can hardly blame him, see reasons above.
- If he was trying to play scummy

on purpose

to attract votes, that is an inane move.

So... what was the reasoning? Did he think scum was stupid enough to hammer us and want to reap the Towncred Tomorrow? No scum would do it, because scum know we are Town and there is no Towncred to reap from our mislynch.

tl;dr I don't understand what kind of reasoning jason can have for that L-1 vote and

then

not explaining it when the momentum is already gone and the real-time reactions to

whatever "issue" it is

have gone poof.

[Sotty7]

Fair enough. We shall see what he posts when he comes back.

[Josh Lyman]

vote: Sixty

yup, L-1 quick-lynch FTW... whoever quick-hammers is town foreva

wtf

This is our lynch for today, right?

Vote: jason

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He's our lynch for tomorrow. It'd be boring to lynch him today.

[Josh Lyman]

Who do you want to lynch today?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I was thinking we'd no-lynch to give scum a fair chance.

[Dazed and Confused]

The dazed and confused half of Dazed and Confused checking in, but I have to leave right now, anyway. I'm essentially just posting to say neither of us will be around much today and I'll have no access to a computer until this evening. (Also, my version of the Sixty vote was a lot cooler and less arrogant than Empire's was.)

Nacho, you're no fun. What's the point of hydraing with Empire if I have to be obvtown

myself

? Are you telling me I have to work,

too

? See for example, right now, I'm posting nothing but a useless post dodge and no relevant opinions other than a throwaway question in response to what looks like an unremarkable post. If I was hydraing with CES, we'd be the biggest wagon by the time I came home from work. But it doesn't matter, because thanks to the power of Empire, I'm untouchable! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FREEDOM! *goes streaking through the thread*

I already feel out of the loop in this game.

Don't worry, Sotty, it's natural. There are only two scum PMs out there.

I know this sounds like a trivial, but can you explain how exactly do you feel out of the loop? Don't you know most of the people in this game?

Haven't communicated with Empire since this game started, but it's probably a bad sign that the players I thought were the only possible mislynches when the player are all suspects of mine to some degree.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

If I was hydraing with CES, we'd be the biggest wagon by the time I came home from work.

Pretty sure that only happened because I was doing my customary being-bad-at-Larges.

Scum team is Nacho-Josh by the bye.

[Sixty]

uo.ou

(If we could put sparkles in those puppy eyes, we would. Promise.)

Unvote: Cogito Ergo Sum
Vote: Josh Lyman

(L-4)

[Sixty]

I'm untouchable! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FREEDOM! *goes streaking through the thread*

Welcome to every Town game of, at least, puppyhalf #7.

[Sixty]

Oh, also, Mina, stop obvTowning. That's my shtick.

...Stick? throw it throw it throw it oh boy oh boy a stick

[Sotty7]

I know this sounds like a trivial, but can you explain how exactly do you feel out of the loop? Don't you know most of the people in this game?

Mostly you and sixty going at it like an old couple in their rocking chairs next to the fire. I think you guys play too many games together. But been there done that.

Scum team is Nacho-Josh by the bye.

Thanks!

Unvote, Vote: Nacho

Four is town, D+C are probably town and Jason is likely town too. Maybe this will be easy.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, you're no fun. What's the point of hydraing with Empire if I have to be obvtown myself? Are you telling me I have to work, too? See for example, right now, I'm posting nothing but a useless post dodge and no relevant opinions other than a throwaway question in response to what looks like an unremarkable post. If I was hydraing with CES, we'd be the biggest wagon by the time I came home from work. But it doesn't matter, because thanks to the power of Empire, I'm untouchable! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FREEDOM! *goes streaking through the thread*

If I had to depend on Empire's towniness in order to get a read on this slot, then I'd actually have to read his walls.

Vote: Cogito Ergo Sum

[Sixty]

Nacho, you're no fun. What's the point of hydraing with Empire if I have to be obvtown myself? Are you telling me I have to work, too? See for example, right now, I'm posting nothing but a useless post dodge and no relevant opinions other than a throwaway question in response to what looks like an unremarkable post. If I was hydraing with CES, we'd be the biggest wagon by the time I came home from work. But it doesn't matter, because thanks to the power of Empire, I'm untouchable! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FREEDOM! *goes streaking through the thread*

If I had to depend on Empire's towniness in order to get a read on this slot, then I'd actually have to read his walls.

Vote: Cogito Ergo Sum

^scum, a rainy day when the puppy is not allowed outside, loud fireworks, a flea, the doctorvet, etc. Grr.

[Josh Lyman]

I was thinking we'd no-lynch to give scum a fair chance.

I bet you're pulling my leg.

[Zachrulez]

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