The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

[Benmage]

Actually its about 48 hours.. not 72... but yeah, we're totally not gonna have a rushed lynch today

[Kise]

Really... so a doc isn't likely against two known nightkillers in the setup. Cool, Ben.

[kuribo]

What awe-inspiring information have I missed/failed to comment on that YOU MUST bring to my attention?

Why do you seem to think BT is town?

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 2, Votecount 35

Kise (6) - Ser Arthur Dayne, sottyrulez, Benmage, camn, BT, JasonT1981

BT (2) - Channeldelibird, kuribo
Ser Arthur Dayne (4) - Deasvail, Plessiezarus, Zdenek, Kise
sottyrulez (1) - Nostredeus

Not voting (3) :

ZONEACE, Cerulean, The Mini-Librarian

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 22nd of February at 00:30am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadlien: (expired on 2013-02-21 20:30:28)
  
• No one is V/la!

[Kise]

PLUS who the fuck is going to counter claim EXPENSIVE doc

MEans I'm not regular doc and means I withheld info for the sake of greater good.

There can't be a steady doc along with my role, and it also hints that I'm balanced towards there being an SK > a vig.

[Benmage]

PLUS who the fuck is going to counter claim EXPENSIVE doc

MEans I'm not regular doc and means I withheld info for the sake of greater good.

There can't be a steady doc along with my role, and it also hints that I'm balanced towards there being an SK > a vig.

You don't think that was pertinent information?

I'd ask you to indulge, but with this class of town, doesn't look like you're going to hang anyways.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

PLUS who the fuck is going to counter claim EXPENSIVE doc

MEans I'm not regular doc and means I withheld info for the sake of greater good.

There can't be a steady doc along with my role, and it also hints that I'm balanced towards there being an SK > a vig.

Are you making stuff as you go along? Be fully honest

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Hmm the first thing that comes to my mind is "super jailer" in Mafiastuck which was just flavor for a regular jailkeeper, so I kinda assumed it was just flavor also.

[Benmage]

Really... so a doc isn't likely against two known nightkillers in the setup. Cool, Ben.

There could.... And there easily couldn't be. And there could easily be a scum doc...Cool(er?), Kise.

Docs are a weak PR to begin with. Not sure what the expensive thing is, but not my point.

[Benmage]

What awe-inspiring information have I missed/failed to comment on that YOU MUST bring to my attention?

Why do you seem to think BT is town?

My interactions with Vifam.

I liked his intro into the game. Nothing has screamed scum to me.

Bullet for me the case please.

[jasonT1981]

unvote

vote:SAD

Not 100% sure I believe the doc claim, seems every claim is a doc or cop claim in situations like this, its a safe claim in the fact it is either countered and outted the real doc, or town unvotes so the doc claim is lynched. Just seems like the perfect claim with a win win situation for scum claiming it.

I would be on board a SAD lynch big time though. Been calling him scum since day 1.

We can look at Kise/Kuribo/Dan closer tomorrow.

[Benmage]

We can look at Kise/Kuribo/Dan closer tomorrow.

Whose Dan?

[Kise]

It's not too important for the public to know, really. More harmful than helpful.

[kuribo]

Bullet for me the case please.

* Spent ages calling me scum, then admitted that he had no idea who would be partners with me if that were the case
* Called out Kise for not posting, ignored Nos for the same. Barely mentioned Nos until I poked him about it.
(If you were reading the thread, you'd understand that BT is one of my strongest suspects, and I think it's highly likely Nos is scum with him)
* Complained endlessly about my "lack of scumhunting," all the while moving the goalposts about what he thinks scumhunting is
* Switched to Kise at the first chance, then magically decided I was town.
* "Why havent you given us your final list of reads?" When I was L-4. Even though I had already given plenty of reads, and continue to do so. And even though that's a stupid thing to ask at L-4 when half the wagon is VLA.
* Wanted to lynch me instead of Kise because he felt he'd get more information from a lynch on me (even though he failed to point out what information that would be)... then hops onto Kise.
* Didn't REALLY start trying to push the idea that I was scum until he was called out for coasting along on the wagon.

and you know, Ben, I get that you find it annoying that I post alot. So sue me, I type things as they pop into my brain. Whining about it won't change it.

[kuribo]

Docs are a weak PR to begin with.

Not when there are at least two killers out there.

It's pretty damn obvious scum would like to kill off the doc in day-play rather than night kill them. Especially since Zdenek is nearly-mod-confirmed.

How do you not get that you're doing their dirty work for them?

[jasonT1981]

We can look at Kise/Kuribo/Dan closer tomorrow.

Whose Dan?

Sorry, in my drugged up state I meant Ben not Dan. For a second I thought about ActionDan, who you replaced and typed him by mistake.

[kuribo]

Sorry, in my drugged up state I meant Ben not Dan. For a second I thought about ActionDan, who you replaced and typed him by mistake.

you'll really be messed up when you realize I replaced dan

[Benmage]

Docs are a weak PR to begin with.

Not when there are at least two killers out there.

It's pretty damn obvious scum would like to kill off the doc in day-play rather than night kill them. Especially since Zdenek is nearly-mod-confirmed.

How do you not get that you're doing their dirty work for them?

Because while we're talking about balance.... we have a scum team down 50%? D2.... do you think they have a counter to the SK?

I lynch scum. Kise has done zilch this game. I do not allow PR claims to change my judgement. The Zdenek comment is retarded, so I fail to see the point. I doubt Kise sits on Zdenek, and it won't do anything anyways. SO yes if in 6 nights both Kise and Zdenek are still alive they could totally keep Zdenek alive another night.... woooooooooooo GET THOSE SCUMBASTARDS!!!

[Benmage]

We can look at Kise/Kuribo/Dan closer tomorrow.

Whose Dan?

Sorry, in my drugged up state I meant Ben not Dan. For a second I thought about ActionDan, who you replaced and typed him by mistake.

Why am I scum again?

[jasonT1981]

Yes, that is what I am saying lol.... I was thinking Action Dan (who you replaced) when I typed it. But did mean Ben

[kuribo]

Because while we're talking about balance.... we have a scum team down 50%?

Do we? I've already hypothesized that we may be up against 5 scum (counting the traitor), thus making the killer a vig instead of an SK.

As far as balance, we already know scum had a tracker--- pretty handy for rooting out town roles (like docs). They probably have either an X-shot bulletproof or a roleblocker, at least from a balance point of view. If the killer is an SK rather than a vig, he's probably x-shot bulletproof as well.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

For a second I thought about ActionDan, who you replaced and typed him by mistake.

Benmage didn't replace Dan.

Have you like stopped reading the game or a jester or something?

[Benmage]

Bullet for me the case please.

* Spent ages calling me scum, then admitted that he had no idea who would be partners with me if that were the case
* Called out Kise for not posting, ignored Nos for the same. Barely mentioned Nos until I poked him about it.
(If you were reading the thread, you'd understand that BT is one of my strongest suspects, and I think it's highly likely Nos is scum with him)
* Complained endlessly about my "lack of scumhunting," all the while moving the goalposts about what he thinks scumhunting is
* Switched to Kise at the first chance, then magically decided I was town.
* "Why havent you given us your final list of reads?" When I was L-4. Even though I had already given plenty of reads, and continue to do so. And even though that's a stupid thing to ask at L-4 when half the wagon is VLA.
* Wanted to lynch me instead of Kise because he felt he'd get more information from a lynch on me (even though he failed to point out what information that would be)... then hops onto Kise.
* Didn't REALLY start trying to push the idea that I was scum until he was called out for coasting along on the wagon.

and you know, Ben, I get that you find it annoying that I post alot. So sue me, I type things as they pop into my brain. Whining about it won't change it.

Very very personally subjective.
1. He called you scum. So? Doesn't know who your partner(s) are? So?
2. So? I haven't called Nost out either. Are we a three man remaining scum team? Who else hasn't called out both Nost and Kise...????
(good to know)
3. Okkkk..... this'll be fun to look back at.
4. I didn't know nor really care that he now finds you town. Seems a consistent theme to the volume you've produced. Something I've felt victim to in the past (volume, not you).... It isn't changing me. As for his vote on Kise, its shit... I wouldn't say he jumped there first glance. The whole asking for a doc not to counterclaim is retarded, as you always counterclaim. Period. Outted any role > scum no matter what the lead is. SO I got nothing there.
5. K.
6. Lynch information... meh.. after the fact, sure there's plenty of things to review. To go over now... fuck me, I couldn't do that. What information are we attaining from a BT lynch. If your sole Nost-BT theory is vaild? Awesome
7. So he thought you were scum... then magically town (point 4) now scum again?

[jasonT1981]

For a second I thought about ActionDan, who you replaced and typed him by mistake.

Benmage didn't replace Dan.

Have you like stopped reading the game or a jester or something?

Are you even reading the convo was with Kuribo....

I was thinking of Action Dan at the time (due to other reasons in my modded game) who Kuribo replaced.. I thought the 'who you replaced' directed at Kuribo would have told you this, but I meant to say Ben.

Understand?

[Benmage]

Because while we're talking about balance.... we have a scum team down 50%?

Do we? I've already hypothesized that we may be up against 5 scum (counting the traitor), thus making the killer a vig instead of an SK.

As far as balance, we already know scum had a tracker--- pretty handy for rooting out town roles (like docs). They probably have either an X-shot bulletproof or a roleblocker, at least from a balance point of view. If the killer is an SK rather than a vig, he's probably x-shot bulletproof as well.

Even tho, the doc you're saving... has just vaguely insinuated that there's an SK over a vig.

Yes they could have a RB, BP, Jailor etc etc... or a Doc.

My point again. Shit play gets lynched. Allowing for claims to save oneself is atrocious play. DO I really have to go link games to scum fakeclaiming, or are we all here experienced enough to have this common encounter?