The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

[Nostredeus]

Alright, here you guys go:

Vote: SAD

[ChannelDelibird]

Finally I have time! Reading everything in the next couple of hours. Your patience is appreciated.

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 2, Votecount 43

Kise (1) - BT

BT (7) - Channeldelibird, Kise, sottyrulez, kuribom Benmage, camn, Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Arthur Dayne (6) - Deasvail, Plessiezarus, Zdenek, JasonT1981, The-Mini Librarian, Nostredeus

Not voting (2) :

ZONEACE, Cerulean

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 22nd of February at 00:30am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadlien: (expired on 2013-02-21 20:30:28)
  
• No one is V/la!

12ish hours until deadline*

Zoneace is being prodded.

[camn]

again, I will hammer Dayne if I can.
I will check in again before deadline.

And kuribo- not the benmage thing. ALL of it. Your last post included.
There has been little room for an intelligent Lynch today, in bulk because of your play. If that is what you want, then keep it up. If you think we ARE lynching intelligently, keep it up.
Otherwise, just think it over tonight, and maybe tomorrow can be better.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Damnnnnn BT is town to the max.

I might actually get me vote off later and try to force a no lynch. Teheheh.

[BT]

No lynch the worst option available

Prefer my lynch over no lynch

[kuribo]

again, I will hammer Dayne if I can.
I will check in again before deadline.

And kuribo- not the benmage thing. ALL of it. Your last post included.
There has been little room for an intelligent Lynch today, in bulk because of your play. If that is what you want, then keep it up. If you think we ARE lynching intelligently, keep it up.
Otherwise, just think it over tonight, and maybe tomorrow can be better.

You know what, fuck you, camn.

Like, I mean that from the bottom of my heart, too. Fuck. You.

I *do* think I'm lynching intelligently because BT is fucking scum.

Do you remember what you said when people asked you your reads?

"All my reads are dead."

You've softclaimed vig as hard as anyone fucking can, well guess what? If Kise's claim is true, he's already implied his role PM implies the existence of an SK.

You've been exactly as helpful as a wet fucking fart today. You've hopped onto popular wagons willy-nilly, continued to soft-claim, and had exactly zero input on anything EXCEPT to whine and fucking complain about me.

So take your self-righteous fucking blah-blah, to the blah-blahtology department at the hospital, then maybe, MAYBE they can surgically remove your head from your own ass. Because you know what? Until they do, you're just white fucking noise in the background, not even committing to anything. And no one in this town has time for any of that bullshit, not today, not next week, not next month, not next year. And no one living or dead, or who ever lived or died or ever WILL live or die in the entire epic aeons of human existance in all its splendor will look at your posts from today and go "Yep. She's town and she's totally right!"

Take that crap elsewhere, camn. Seriously.

[kuribo]

oh, by the way, if camn kills me tonight, two things to remember:

1) if she's SK, that almost certainly makes it 3 + a traitor, meaning SAD called out the exact scum makeup the first day. I still think that's a town tell

2) If Kise dies anywhere in the future and flips town, remember what he said about there being an SK


Deas and I aren't sure who I'm neighborizing tonight, but it doesn't really matter much since neighbors are about as useless as camn and zoneface.

Anything else is left in my will. I'm going to Delaware for the day, have a good one.

[BT]

Please do try to compose yourself when I flip town

You're making me legit worried

[Plessiezarus]

I might actually get me vote off later and try to force a no lynch. Teheheh.

Yes, forcing a no lynch seems to be the optimal scum play. Well done you!

Nice to know you intend to be around more before deadline, too. Doesn't really sit well with what you said in 1943 though:

And since

I really won't have much time to post in the next few days

, I'm d'angelo, VT.

Since claiming he "won't have much time to post", SAD has made about two dozen posts on-site, the majority of them in this thread. And given 2079, above, it's clear he'll be around to make more posts if he wants to later today.

Does anybody actually believe that SAD claimed early because he thought he wouldn't "have much time to post"?

~ Pless

[BT]

... And then I remembered how big SAD's ISO

is

.

I don't know... I feel like I think he's town enough but not enough to say he isn't scum, yet him flipping town instead of me would make me feel like a horrible shit because he's more capable. (because the number of townies confidently reading me as scum has made me lose faith in my town game)

I just really

don't want to do it

.

I'm even leaning towards the scumteam being on SAD's wagon for the explicit purpose of leaving me alive.

How do you explain the wagon rising this much otherwise? It certainly wasn't a big deal until recently.

PEdit: That's nothing exclusive to scum, though.

I'm just feeling ridiculously useless right now.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm a few pages into my catch-up and I will keep going but I want to move my vote now as time is of the essence. I will swap back if needs be by the end of the read.

UNVOTE: BT
VOTE: Ser Arthur Dayne

The key posts are:

BT's 1566 which is actually kinda town, consisting of a lot of defending the actions I found scummy in a kind of "because I did" way, as if there couldn't be a "why", it just obviously *is*. Just because he's offered an explanation for things doesn't mean I believed it but he just assumes that it was accepted because it feels obvious to him.

BT wanted me to address 1665 when I caught up. I don't actually have a very good answer for it; only that I must have missed it buried in a wall. I can't come up with a reason behind the quote which makes more sense for scum than town.

There's also Pless's 1603 which gives the first brief explanation of the SAD case that I've at least found at the right time to read, and it makes me want to vote SAD more. I'll double-check his absta/TGAH interactions when I'm finished reading but I've seen enough to move across the wagons at this point.

[sottyrulez]

2079 was twitchworthy.

... and I'm waivering on BT anyway. (CDB moving makes that lynch increasingly unlikely regardless now.)

Anyway.

Unvote: Vote: Ser Arthur Dayne

[sottyrulez]

I believe that's lynch -1 as well.

[ChannelDelibird]

And yeah, fuck 2079.

[ChannelDelibird]

SAD's 1871 leaves him open on several slots (me, Jason, kuribo) in particular without really committing either way but paving the way for a vote on all of them. That's the position I'd like to be in as scum.

[ChannelDelibird]

To those understandably worrying why I disappeared again after everyone got off my back: Having expended quite a lot of effort into fighting my wagon and apparently won, I was slow to get back into it. Doing that much work for a game is quite enjoyable in the end because of the payoff but it always feels like it's going to be a chore

before

I do it. As I said, there was also a new game that started which stole some of my attention, plus various IRL distractions & work. Dropping off and having to catch up in bursts just isn't a tell either way for me.

[ChannelDelibird]

BT's activity and clarity of thought over the last couple of pages feel town too. I'm confident now that I've made the right choice between these two.

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 2, Votecount 44

Kise (1) - BT
BT (5) - Kise, kuribo, Benmage, camn, Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Arthur Dayne (8) - Deasvail, Plessiezarus, Zdenek, JasonT1981, The-Mini Librarian, Nostredeus, ChannelDeliBird, sottyrulez

Not voting (2) :

ZONEACE, Cerulean

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 22nd of February at 00:30am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadlien: (expired on 2013-02-21 20:30:28)
  
• No one is V/la!

9ish hours until deadline*

[Cerulean]

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p4735537]
But Cerulean -- you sort of have to vote soon? I get that you guys are conflicted, and that you don't agree on how scummy SAD is

and that it's fun to equivocate since you can then claim to be right no matter what happens

, but there's this thing called a deadline we have to work with (or a 'deadlien', if you go by the mod's preferred spelling ).

~ Pless

This is my fault, I fell asleep in the middle of an aim discussion about where we were going to put our vote last night.

Anyway, we'll hammer sad soon since he's at l-1, but I want to catch up with what I've briefly skimmed since Tuesday and give any updated thoughts if I have them. I have a couple things to do before that though.

[The Baltimore Sun]

ZONEACE has requested replacement. Searching now

[jasonT1981]

well that was a damn wasted replacement.... fully behind SAD lynch, been saying it since D1.

[camn]

UNVOTE
VOTE SER ARTHUR DAYNE

[camn]

Oops. Sorry, cerulean. I missed your post.

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 2, Votecount 45

Kise (1) - BT
BT (4) - Kise, kuribo, Benmage, Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Arthur Dayne (9) - Deasvail, Plessiezarus, Zdenek, JasonT1981, The-Mini Librarian, Nostredeus, ChannelDeliBird, sottyrulez, camn

Not voting (2) :

ZONEACE, Cerulean

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 22nd of February at 00:30am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadlien: (expired on 2013-02-21 20:30:28)
  
• No one is V/la!

Flip will be up a bit later.