/in-vitational 12: Mafia in #YOLOville - All wrapped up!

[Tierce]

so I would appreciate if you would at least discredit my thoughts on someone who is lurkposting and maintaining the exact same reads without change the entire day EMPIRE X SHADOWEH SCUM OTP.

Oh, Empire is totes scum.

There, discrediting done!

[Faraday]

Day 1, Votecount 14

Nachomamma8 (1) - N
penguin_alien (2) - Llamarble, Deasvail
Shadoweh (1) - WickedestJr
Llamarble (2) - Empire, penguin_alien
Johhog (2) - Nachomamma8, Tammy

N (3) - Tierce, Vi, CrashTextDummie

Vi (2) - Benmage, Cogito Ergo Sum
CrashTextDummie (1) - Shadoweh

Not voting (2) :

Johhog, Konowa

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 5th of March at 00:38am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-03-04 20:30:28)
  
• Tierce is V/la

[Shadoweh]

I was talking about CTD. Stop being obtuse.

[Tierce]

I'm busy ignoring CTD.

My point was why you think my discussion with Wickedestjr is relevant to mention as a thing-Tierce-is-doing-wrongly and my discussion with Konowa doesn't even bear a mention, when you apparently already have some sort of scumread on him. Your priorities seem to be somewhat twisted around.

[Shadoweh]

I go where my urges take me and they do not bend in that direction. I am like a willow in the wind. I am asking you directly to go out of your way not to ignore him for me and to give your opinion, in a way that isn't blowing me off, because I respect yours.

I think it's more relevant to mention someone attacking a town-read then to talk about their read on someone you're unsure of anyways.

[Vi]

You're leaning pretty hard on Tierce right here. I hope you're not suggesting Tierce is scum deliberately not reading me. You're only making vague passes at me being scum here; if you thought I was Town you wouldn't be making these statements to start with and if you thought I was someone you could comfortably manage a wagon on you would have listed me among your suspects. And this is coming from someone who made a big deal of saying that I'm

so

easy to read.

I have said you are town at least three times so what are you talking about?

You what.

I will politely ignore discussion of ə's urges.

Tierce, were you being serious when you said she was scum?

[Shadoweh]

If you've been watching the argument Wickedjr has been having with me about my townie voting block:

The comment(s) that appeared too confident quote unquote is referring to everything I said about my dream team? I would have called the emotion unbridled optimism. I'm quite sure all three of them are town. Just by posing the question I expect reactions that help determine that alignment.

Junior dude who I have been reading as WickedJester this entire time: No. That statement of alignment is reflective of what I concluded as of that post. IE as of that post I believed my voting block was Townie Obvtown. The pengu thing was just that his first post was shaky and is unrelated to optimism. I honestly don't remember which comment that was in response to. And CTD didn't completely ignore Empire's post so. If I seem disinterested in arguing with you it's because I think you're town too.

I honestly don't know where you got the impression I thought you were scum from when I'm asking Tierce why she can't see your town tells. I do not want a wagon on you.

[Tierce]

Tierce, were you being serious when you said she was scum?

I was. Not interested in a wagon Today.

[Shadoweh]

Why not? I'd make a pretty good one. I'm avoiding all your scumspects, totes validate all your other reads, and it would help ignore me directly asking you questions! You aren't interested in a wagon because you have no reason to think I'm scum and I am insulted you would think so, so either put up or stop ignoring me.

[Shadoweh]

BTW if you were anyone else these posts would contain alot more expletitives because you are legitimately beginning to make me upset. I will continue to kick you in the hornet's nest until you answer me seriously.

[Tierce]

I'm not ignoring you. But much like Vi, I believe you are an easier read later in the game, and I doubt I would be able to discern anything useful from a wagoneh Today. In the meantime, you are good company. Therefore, etc.

[Shadoweh]

B-baka! Do you think saying you like my company will make me happy? I-I'm not that easy to please! Just beccause wagoneh made me giggle doesn't mean I forgive you!
I meant ignoring what I've been asking you about though, but my crankiness is starting to wear off from the mornafternoon coffee. Please at least look at CTD?

[Tierce]

The fact that I keep posting like there's no tomorrow doesn't mean I'm not V/LA. Quick rundown: I'm doing laundry and cleaning the room and whatnot, because my American half arrives tomorrow and we have to be in France on the 28th. I'll get back to you as I can/when I manage to focus, but if my participation has been reduced to sniping remarks, it's because I

am

kind of busy. Hellnix is in a flurry of activity and wooooo scatterbrainage.

[Empire]

Caught up, not going to bother with quote strips here

since I want to stop feeling like MoI

.

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@CTD

(#311): Erm, it wasn't supposed to be a suggestion, I made it pretty explicit that I thought that post was scummy. You're basically expressing suspicion on the two of us while keeping your vote on Llamarble and commenting on us both without taking a more clear stance on which of us you think comes off worse in it just makes it seem like you're trying to encourage the argument rather than trying to glean meaningful information from it. And I don't see a BoP aspect to Shadoweh's argument which is why I haven't responded to it + I've already suggested I'm somewhat leaning town on her though it's been reinforced by her recent posting.

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@Konowa

: I'm not sure I'm following? You say that you outed that pg. 2 townread on Tierce for reactions (#312), that your read was a gutread (#319), and that your read was based off an early game tell (#47)? Seems inconsistent. Which of the three is it? What reaction were you hoping to get out of Tierce/what early game tell did you pick up?

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@Nacho:

My impression of N is different? I remember in Black Flag he was outing reads and stuff but mostly just attacking easy targets, was rather lurkerish, and had a hard time dealing with the stronger players in the room (for example, he spent most of the game tunneling/getting into a huge fight with JesseSheffield) so I think it would make sense for Nscum to have a hard time producing content with this strong of a roster.

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@Tammy:

Echoing Shadoweh's sentinments, I'm not getting the super warm and fuzzy townie vibes from your posts but I know you've said you sometimes struggle on D1. Please towninate, too.

Unvote, vote: N

(Tierce, if you say I'm sheeping you here I'm going to be frustrated as fuck.)

[Empire]

Oh, I'm going to go over Shadoweh's meta too since I remember she's a lot more snarky/abrasive as town.

And Vi's too since CES basically asked.

[Benmage]

...Oh. It needed a question mark.

Currently, scum. Wouldn't lynch Today.

(^Inreference to shadow)Thats odd? Why not lynch today?

I am not currently interested in a Vi wagon though.

Why not?

[Empire]

EBWOP:

Oh, I'm going to go over Shadoweh's meta too since I remember she's a lot more snarky/abrasive as town

than as scum

.

Sigh, I'm really bad at editing my posts this game.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Yeah, 'cause that post didn't need editing.

Vote for Vi? I forget who you're voting for but I doubt it's a good one.

[Empire]

Vote for Vi? I forget who you're voting for but I doubt it's a good one.

(I'm voting for N, which seems pretty neat to me.)

[Vi]

Oh, I'm going to go over Shadoweh's meta too since I remember she's a lot more snarky/abrasive as town.

Spoiler: All of her recent games are as Town or as one of two scumteams/SK, in which she was at least moderately more abrasive in all of them than here. This game's snarkometer reading (before seeing the chance to push on some Vi who got brought into this invitational) matches two more distant games I remember in which she was playing with me and Tierce. She was scum in both of them and justifiably scared.

Conclusion: etc.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Ah, I missed that vote switch. Not exactly displaying an empire state of mind here, still.

[DeasVail]

Shadoweh, CTD is still kind of null. Maybe a little scummy, but reading his posts it's like "This tells me nothing about your alignment. WHHHHYYYYY?"

I'm going to go with leaning town on N. Following his success in NY 160, I'd expect him to be more motivated as scum with this kind of playerlist (he knows that he can fool good players) and try harder to look town. Compared to here, he was just a lot more pro-town there, and that's more the kind of thing I'd expect. I don't think the reasons behind the wagon are all that bad, I just don't really agree.

[DeasVail]

Oh wait he didn't win NY 160, but he played well anyway.

/fail

[Vi]

This game's snarkometer reading (before seeing the chance to push on some Vi who got brought into this invitational)

^^^This is allegedly not true, but the person saying so is also saying that they've been calling me Town more times than they can count.

[Johhog]

The Vi wagon is meh. I think it looks like normal Vi. I prefer this one.

VOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum

Playing very differently from Team Mafia, where he was town.