/in-vitational 12: Mafia in #YOLOville - All wrapped up!

[N]

Out of those on my wagon, I think CTD's jump on was the worst, followed by Empire's. I don't know whether I just don't understand how my own meta is seen or whether Teirce and Empire are cherry-picking parts of it that suit their case.

On the other hand, Teirce's build up to voting for me is to be expected, but she does actually understand her own meta so that doesn't mean anything. I actually doubt that she'll be moving her vote again today. (I mean that the way she built up to her vote is usual for her, not that she voted for me; that's debatable.)

Are any of these scum reads (or town reads in Tierce's case) that you're interested in championing?

lol what. If that's what you take from that post, I can see why there's a wagon on you.

[N]

Tierce is town and this is non-negotiable.

More N votes.

I know that and I never said it was. You asked me how I felt about Vi's vote, and I feel that it is sheeping.

Yeah, ok.

More votes on this guy, please and thanks.

When have you ever said shit like this before? I've never seen you be a backseat driver before.

[Empire]

How about you actually answer the question I asked you about your thoughts on Vi? Saying "I feel he's sheeping" is not even remotely what I asked for.

[N]

The question you asked what "how do you feel about Vi's vote on you?" But whatever, I'll answer your new question: I don't really have any thoughts on Vi yet, except that I disagree with his assertion that I am fluffier than him.

[penguin_alien]

N, that was the closest I found to scum reads from you aside from your stance on Nachomamma8. If you have others, do share.

[Wickedestjr]

Phone post

I voted CTD for the following reasons-
-His questions for DV (which I asked him about) were kind of unhelpful/uninteresting. He admitted that he didnt find DV's post suspicious. It looks like it can only be an attempt to look like hes scumhunting.
-Most of his posting revolves around going after easy/popular targets or responding to comments that regard him or his suspects.

Side note: CTD vs Shadoweh feels like bussing
-it is weird that ctd singled her out on page 2 for the reasoning he used
-shadoweh's response strikes me as significantly different from her response to my suspicion of her
-they both seem strangely confident in their suspicions of eachother
-shadoweh said she would vig him without a claim!
-kinda odd how ctd isnt voting her

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I almost switched my vote to penguin. The vote for N is opportunism at its finest. Note that it took 20 pages and a few votes for N before penguin realized that N's lack of contribution was suspicious and voteworthy. IIRC the vote for Llamarble was opportunistic too.

[Konowa]

Vote: penguin

Consider me caught up?

[Konowa]

If penguin flips Scum, I'd flip Wicked next.

[Konowa]

I'm getting the same feeling in regards to N and Vi as I am looking back at Zar in comparison to Mehdi and Vi. Meaning I think they're both Town?

[Wickedestjr]

Phone post

I think the scum are amongst: bm, ces, ctd, dv, nacho, pa, shadoweh, vi

Ill try to narrow it down later.

I don't like the N bw- i think hes town and even if i suspected him he'd be a bad lynch for today

BM what's the scum motive for saying im struggling?
CES gives a pretty strong scum vibe, but idk why and i always think he's Mafia so I'm hesitant and he's on my untouchable list

What do you guys think about Nacho and DV?

[Konowa]

I could also get behind a Johhog wagon Today.

[Konowa]

I know Empire asked me a question in regards to my read on Tierce? I have to do inventory and then I'll go find it.

[Konowa]

Okay. I guess I can see where you find it inconsistent, Empire.

Tierce's vote on DV was Town (we've seen her jump on awkward early stances like that before as Town). So yes, it was a gut read on what I think to be a Town tell for Tierce. I know she's hyper sensitive of her own meta and with this list if notTown then would try hard as possible to mimic her Town play. So to try and help further that read I decided to out my read to see how she would respond (again, since I know she thinks I'm paranoid of her). I think if Scum, Tierce wouldn't have been as vocal about it and moreso just cast some shady eyes at me.

[Konowa]

I'd actually be up for flipping Wicked today, irregardless of 482.

[Empire]

Okay. I guess I can see where you find it inconsistent, Empire.

Tierce's vote on DV was Town (we've seen her jump on awkward early stances like that before as Town). So yes, it was a gut read on what I think to be a Town tell for Tierce. I know she's hyper sensitive of her own meta and with this list if notTown then would try hard as possible to mimic her Town play. So to try and help further that read I decided to out my read to see how she would respond (again, since I know she thinks I'm paranoid of her). I think if Scum, Tierce wouldn't have been as vocal about it and moreso just cast some shady eyes at me.

Ok, now why did you find Tammy's reaction to you in the early game strange given that you've seen her react similarly (I'd argue even more strongly) in Castle Zar as town?

Also, can you elaborate some more on your penguin, Johhog, and Wickedestjr (want to see the logic for scumreading him independently of penguin) scumreads please?

[Shadoweh]

lolbussing. To be fair I like bussing but only when my partner sucks and is actually bussable instead of a guy most people are calling me dumb for voting in the first place.

[Tierce]

Out of those on my wagon, I think CTD's jump on was the worst, followed by Empire's. I don't know whether I just don't understand how my own meta is seen or whether Teirce and Empire are cherry-picking parts of it that suit their case.

On the other hand, Teirce's build up to voting for me is to be expected, but she does actually understand her own meta so that doesn't mean anything. I actually doubt that she'll be moving her vote again today. (I mean that the way she built up to her vote is usual for her, not that she voted for me; that's debatable.)

Are any of these scum reads (or town reads in Tierce's case) that you're interested in championing?

lol what. If that's what you take from that post, I can see why there's a wagon on you.

More votes here, please.

Vote: penguin

Consider me caught up?

Ugh. As ugh as this post is, I would have expected him to bus here. I'll check the votecount later to see if it would make sense, I should dash out for now.

Konowa's justification for his read on me still sucks.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

It's not that ugh a post given context.

[Faraday]

Day 1, Votecount 19

Nachomamma8 (1) - N
penguin_alien (3) - Llamarble, Deasvail, Konowa
Johhog (2) - Nachomamma8, Tammy

N (5) - Tierce, Vi, CrashTextDummie, Empire, penguin_alien

Vi (2) - Benmage, Cogito Ergo Sum
CrashTextDummie (2) - Shadoweh, WickedestJr
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) - Johhog

Not voting (0) :

NO ONE

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 5th of March at 00:38am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-03-04 20:30:28)
  
• Tierce and Nachomamma8 are V/la

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Tammy, you should vote Vi.

[Benmage]

BM what's the scum motive for saying im struggling?

You can't think of any reasoning, whatsoever?

[CrashTextDummie]

Wickedestjr, why do you have a town read on Johhog?

[Empire]

Konowa's justification for his read on me still sucks.

I actually thought that was a rather townish post from Konowa. Think of it like this: Konowa obviously knows at least that aspect of his meta (w.r.t. the way he interacts with you in games) so a hypothetical Konowa-scum who knows your alignment wouldn't want to throw himself into the limelight like that and draw that negative attention from you. In that context, I think he'd just avoid you altogether or try to play up the paranoia angle to try and conform to his town meta. So therefore, I think him saying he was trying to further a gut-townread on you is genuine.

The Tammy stuff is still weird, though.

[Konowa]

If you take just that question in a vacuum, I can see why it's weird. The entire context, including Tammy's reply, post 223, where she says she misunderstood what I meant about the timing of the post, I think makes sense. I understand the DGB situation, but in no way did I compute and equal what I said being anywhere -near- worthy of that sort of reaction.

Don't know if I'll get to the reasoning for those reads tonight since I'm limited to a phone until tomorrow. I guess it depends on how I feel since I got off early and may just go to sleep.

[Tammy]

Don't prod me! The thing that has been taking up the majority of my free time just ended a couple hours ago. I'll get my head in this game soon. Maybe tonight, probably tomorrow. I have work to get done first and I'm tired.

CES - How did you know I woke up this morning and thought to myself I'd just start sheeping you?