MINI 1423 Dark Souls: Prepare to die....YOU DIED

[Nachomamma8]

i spotted me an empking
i wonder if he will bus...?

[Human Destroyer]

Nacho, now I will ask you why you have a

vote

scumread on me

And don't give me some shitty "lol ill tell you later" shit, spill the beans

Also Empking is probably scum with PV and Rest so

[Empking]

Is there a case on TOWK? Also, is it he or SK who's scummiest?

[Sotty7]

"It is an honour to see thee again.
I shall follow thine wishes."

Twelfth vote count of Day one

PeregrineV: 4 (Debonair Danny DiPietro, VP Baltar, Human Destroyer, TheOneWhoKnocks)
TheOneWhoKnocks: 4 (PeregrineV, Nachomamma8, leviathan93, Iecerint)

Human Destroyer: 2 (FourTrouble, RestFermata)
Iecerint: 1 (Empking)
Debonair Danny DiPietro: 1 (JasonT1981)

Not voting: 1 (chkflip)

With

13

players alive it takes

7

to lynch

DEADLINE:

(expired on 2013-03-07 21:00:00)

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, now I will ask you why you have a

vote

scumread on me

And don't give me some shitty "lol ill tell you later" shit, spill the beans

Also Empking is probably scum with PV and Rest so

so...?

Is there a case on TOWK? Also, is it he or SK who's scummiest?

there's a bit on TOWK that I just brought up
i will bring up more later, but it will be one of those medium-length cases that you dislike reading

[Human Destroyer]

The comment was unrelated to the quote

I still want you to respond

[Nachomamma8]

you said that like you had more to say
did you?

[Human Destroyer]

Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it

So

[Empking]

there's a bit on TOWK that I just brought up
i will bring up more later, but it will be one of those medium-length cases that you dislike reading

Before 370 did you have suspicion of him? Because the thing you mention in 370 seems like a standalone scum tell so going from that to PBPAing him would be a work of confirmation bias.

[Nachomamma8]

Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it

So

why do you think empking and pv are scum?

[Nachomamma8]

there's a bit on TOWK that I just brought up
i will bring up more later, but it will be one of those medium-length cases that you dislike reading

Before 370 did you have suspicion of him? Because the thing you mention in 370 seems like a standalone scum tell so going from that to PBPAing him would be a work of confirmation bias.

my suspicion of hd and him shot up significantly with the fresh new townread on peregrine.
i had a leaning scumread on SK, then a leaning scumread of TOWK
now i'm fairly sure he's scum

[Empking]

Unvote, Vote: TOWK

[Human Destroyer]

Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it

So

why do you think empking and pv are scum?

Empking is too much bandwagoning, too little explanation; is super-questioning about the PV wagon but before that had no problem hopping between wagons

PV is scum for his strawman of the wagon's reasoning (especially of mine, since mine is not in the vote post, it's here), and that VT claim is unconvincing IMO.

[Human Destroyer]

is super-questioning about the PV wagon but before that had no problem hopping between wagons

^This is my associative tell between the two if I didn't make that clear; I suppose the TOWK questioning on Emp's part kinda throws it off a little, but IMO it looks like Emp's looking for a counterwagon opportunity.

[Empking]

Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it

So

why do you think empking and pv are scum?

Empking is too much bandwagoning, too little explanation; is super-questioning about the PV wagon but before that had no problem hopping between wagons

I really hadn't been.

[Human Destroyer]

Vote: SK

- L-2

First wagon jump

Unvote
Vote: lev

His wself-vote was a ploy; a ploy of the scum variety.

Second wagon jump

Vote; Iece

Third wagon jump

NOTABLY SKIPS PV WAGON

Unvote, Vote: TOWK

Fourth wagon jump

[Human Destroyer]

NOTABLY SKIPS PV WAGON

Same for the Rest wagon

[Nachomamma8]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
SHOW ME THE DIFFERENCES

[Nachomamma8]

PV is scum for his strawman of the wagon's reasoning (especially of mine, since mine is not in the vote post, it's here), and that VT claim is unconvincing IMO.

you don't think Peregrine missing that is reasonable?
you think that as scum, he thought that blatantly misrepping you was worth the risk of you noticing? why?

[Nachomamma8]

NOTABLY SKIPS PV WAGON

Same for the Rest wagon

and you really think that he's just avoiding voting all of his scumbuddies?

[Empking]

Vote: SK

- L-2

First wagon jump

Wasn't really a jump. It was my RVS.

Unvote
Vote: lev

His wself-vote was a ploy; a ploy of the scum variety.

Second wagon jump

Wasn't a wagon (if you don't count lev's vote (and you shouldn't).)

Vote; Iece

Third wagon jump

Really wasn't a wagon.

NOTABLY SKIPS PV WAGON

Unvote, Vote: TOWK

Fourth wagon jump

What is your definition of a jump, because going from an orphan vote to an non-orphan vote doesn't seem to fit the definition of going from one wagon to another.

[Human Destroyer]

^He doesn't get all questioning and hesitant about specific wagons in that ISO

P-Edit: I don't think it is reasonable, considering he asked me questions which he wanted specific responses to which were in that post. As town, he'd probably read that post and follow up on those responses, no?
The second one, yeah, if he wanted to undermine my opinion, would be a pretty viable thing to do.

P-P-Edit: I'm less certain of the Rest wagon avoidance tbh, he wasn't showing outright hesitance to join the wagon, he just kinda ignored it, whereas with PV he was

really

hesitant and looked more like he was looking for reasons to stay

off

the wagon than to get on it.

CAN YOU GUYS STOP POSTING SO I CAN KTHX

[Human Destroyer]

Unvote; Vote: Leviathan

Alright, Iecerint gets a pass for now.

Unvote, Vote: Leviathan

Iecerint did not mean how simple/complex your reasoning was... he's talking about the lack of effort behind your post or the taking of strong stances. If you can't even bother to look up what strawman means (Wikipedia serves this purpose quite well), it further confirms the point.

then because y'all are so pointless and stupid in your reasoning cuz it doesn't MAKE me scummy.

UNVOTE: VOTE: leviathan

I did put effort into those reads. Its my opinion and what I read. also just because I don't know something doesn't make me scummy cuz i haven't looked it up. no effort, does not imply scumminess. even though you can't read the amount of effort i DID put in to it.

Unvote
Vote: lev

His wself-vote was a ploy; a ploy of the scum variety.

Empking, how is 4 votes (3 if you don't include levi's vote) not a wagon?

[Human Destroyer]

Hmm...I suppose you could argue that Iec vote wasn't really a wagon jump

I don't know the meaning of orphan votes and non-orphan votes, explain that to me

[Iecerint]

Vote: SaintKerrigan

Obv not hollow

.

That's the whole point of the flavor...that the town are the "enemies" in the video game while

the scum are the "heroes" of the game

. I think jason is town, though, based on the kinds of questions he was asking PV.

Bold added. These kind of upset my apple cart, especially the second one. Scum being the heroes is not obvious to me.

It's true that the OP can be read that way (now that I look back at it), but that's not the conclusion I came to upon skimming through it originally, certainly not as an obv thing, and my PM doesn't offer any clarification (even after looking back at it).

Am I missing somewhere else where this is made obvious, or what?