MINI 1423 Dark Souls: Prepare to die....YOU DIED

[Iecerint]

My voting ability is flavored in a way that is relevant to my role...given Pere's claim, I'd assumed that everyone's voting ability is similarly tailored....

@ DDD -- No, I was suggesting that you were being pedantic. The point was that there was not a case until after his claim.

[Empking]

This really is going to open the rolefishing worms. I don't think people should reactively reply to Jason's line of inquiry.

[Sotty7]

"Be gone with you! ....You'll spoil my focus."

17th vote count of Day one

TheOneWhoKnocks: 4 (Nachomamma8, leviathan93, Iecerint, Empking)
PeregrineV: 4 (Debonair Danny DiPietro, VP Baltar, Human Destroyer, TheOneWhoKnocks)

Human Destroyer: 2 (FourTrouble, RestFermata)
VP Baltar: 2 (chkflip, PeregrineV)
Debonair Danny DiPietro: 1 (JasonT1981)

Not voting:

No one

With

13

players alive it takes

7

to lynch

DEADLINE:

(expired on 2013-03-07 21:00:00)

[FourTrouble]

Because scum make a focused effort to dismantle their wagons if they get too serious.

This says that town does not make a focused effort to dismantle their wagons. I disagree, as will anyone who has played for any length of time.

PV, how does what you're saying follow from what VP is saying? Explain your chain of logic there, please.

[VP Baltar]

Can we please get Nacho, TheOneWhoKnocks, leviathan and chkflip to please actually participate in this game. I feel like we're treading water here and we only have 4 days left. We need to be moving ahead with some kind of a lynch here soon, particularly if it ends up not being PV because we still need time for a claim and to evaluate that. I'd be willing to make a compromise lynch on Iecerint if PV absolutely isn't going to happen.

[chkflip]

PerV already claimed, but you don't believe him. So yeah lets get some more claims out there for you not to believe.

[Iecerint]

What do chkflip/VP Baltar think about TheOneWhoKnocks?

[chkflip]

Willing to compromise to Knocks.

[Iecerint]

I wouldn't be overly sad to see VP Baltar go, but I'm kind of biased.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Yeah sorry I've been super busy the past few days and figured I would have time for this, but I really don't.

Requesting replacement

I always seem to replace out of games I replace into... probably should stop that

[leviathan93]

^^^^ok. what the fuck really? replacing? yeah. i'm staying with my scum read on the one who knocks.

[Sotty7]

Nachomamma8

has been prodded.

TheOneWhoKnocks

is being replaced.

[Sotty7]

Ms Marangal

replaces TheOneWhoKnocks. Welcome her!

[leviathan93]

Hi Marangal. you're my lynch target. i want you dead. sorry.

[Ms Marangal]

At least give me a moment to catch up first :<

[Nachomamma8]

I am not jumping off PV because of VT claim; I am jumping off PV because of his reaction to me. I'm going to do a little legwork to see if my feelings are correct, but not now.

You mean that single post where he was mildly sarcastic? I'm on record as AtE's being a towntell but a bit of whining isn't really the sort of AtE I'm looking for.

Nope, not quite.

i do doubt that scum has received fake claims with this much flavor and if he ends up being lynched and found out as scum then I will admit i'm wrong. but i currently believe the VT claim. i have been in that situation before and know what its like.

This is bad reasoning although I still agree with the conclusion. It's dangerous to call someone town based on the flavor they have unless your mod is untried or the flavor is terrible.

And here I'll defend TOWK in that I told him to vote for PV, sure it was an easy vote to make but he's played with me before and I pushed for him to do it. Let's not act like this was an unprompted action where he's just sneaking onto the biggest wagon for that reason and that reason alone.

Did he sheep you easily in the last game you played together?

Yeah my vote on PereV came from being told by DDD he was scummy, so rather than read the whole game while busy, I read his ISO and found it scummy so i voted.

And DDD, did you find it suspicious when he jumped onto your reasoning the moment you gave him an out? Or do you think that he withheld something like this for another reason?

Nacho, I'd like to hear your reasons for getting off the PV wagon. Far as I can tell, you just wanted the name of an ability and you left the wagon, which again, I don't understand since there is a 99% chance of there being flavored fakeclaims to keep the game from being broken.

I've lynched Peregrine multiple times before, ended up meta'ing him to save myself the headache of dealing with him normally ever again. This seems like the town meta that I've lynched before, but give a moment to see if he can't do these same things as scum.

I have sat back the past day, trying to think about it. I just don't see the VT role PM's being different to other VT role PMs.

I know Zach made this mistake off site a good few years ago, I know it was Sotty caught me on the wording of the VT Role PM in that game. given they are both mod and set up designers.. I don't see the role PMs reading differently from VT role to VT role.

PereV

jason. this reasoning is bad.

I wouldn't be overly sad to see VP Baltar go, but I'm kind of biased.

Why do you think he's scum again?

[VP Baltar]

PerV already claimed, but you don't believe him. So yeah lets get some more claims out there for you not to believe.

This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. I've said lynch him. You said no. If anyone is to blame for forcing more claims, it's you. This is seriously the caliber of logic you have to bring to the table.

[VP Baltar]

I've lynched Peregrine multiple times before, ended up meta'ing him to save myself the headache of dealing with him normally ever again. This seems like the town meta that I've lynched before, but give a moment to see if he can't do these same things as scum.

I'd be interested to hear this expounded upon because I don't see town at all.

[chkflip]

PerV already claimed, but you don't believe him. So yeah lets get some more claims out there for you not to believe.

This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. I've said lynch him. You said no. If anyone is to blame for forcing more claims, it's you. This is seriously the caliber of logic you have to bring to the table.

Yup. Blame me for believing the vanilla town claim.

lol'd.

[VP Baltar]

you've got to be trolling this game at this point

[VP Baltar]

no joke:
Username:chkflip
Location:The attic

Age:26

[Nachomamma8]

I've lynched Peregrine multiple times before, ended up meta'ing him to save myself the headache of dealing with him normally ever again. This seems like the town meta that I've lynched before, but give a moment to see if he can't do these same things as scum.

I'd be interested to hear this expounded upon because I don't see town at all.

He usually doesn't have self-righteous defense rants as scum, tends to OMGUS strong players often as town while avoiding them more often as scum. However, did a little research, still can't really read him that well, willing to go through the game one more time to see if I can't pick up something more on another readthrough.

[chkflip]

Now I'm

trolling

because we don't have the same read on PerV? I'm loving this brigade of offense to deflect as much of my opinion away as mindless drivel, though. Keep at it -- it's really furthering your cause.

[Human Destroyer]

Prod dodge, content after school

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

@ DDD -- No, I was suggesting that you were being pedantic. The point was that there was not a case until after his claim.

No, my argument isn’t pedantic. PV/you are trying to nullify the argument based on the fact that it wasn’t made earlier in the game which only makes sense if you’re claiming that the reasoning was fabricated ex post facto to cover our asses BUT since I invoked this same argument privately to VPB when I voted this logic doesn’t hold up. All this leaves is scum whining that their wagon is unjust and that there are no reasons for it.

Did he sheep you easily in the last game you played together?

Last game he pulled this same replace-in, replace-out bullshit (he did not “follow” me in that game but my vote was still RVS at that point). The previous game I ICed a newbie game he was in and we were both town and we trucked scum lynching them on D1 + D2.

And DDD, did you find it suspicious when he jumped onto your reasoning the moment you gave him an out? Or do you think that he withheld something like this for another reason?

I can see it both ways, it’s not a great play but it’s a bit super obvious for actual scum.