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[SafetyDance]

Wasn't so easy to catch up as I thought. Way too many tabs open.

I like the Apozzle's reasoning for NS lynch. It emulates rather a lot of what I was saying before. There does seem to be some consensus here so happy for this wagon to grow...again?

VOTE: Nobody Special

Of course this now means I don't think pecan is scummy any more. By all means, rip into me for that

[Cub Daigoro]

On Cub, he is/was using the reasoning that because his RVS vote might be on scum then that is a good reason to leave it there now.

I've explained this several times, so I'm not sure why you still have it wrong.

Because my RVS vote might be on scum means the fact it is an RVS vote was not a sufficient reason to move it. I think it's pretty clear that I found NS's behavior to be scummy.

[goodmorning]

goodmorning, why do you have an obsession with SD?

Because her little toe has a better judge of character than all of you combined?

Or she spent of her time last game tunnelling me so she's trying to counter-balance that

HEY WHOA

THAT TUNNEL WAS COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED

[SafetyDance]

On Cub, he is/was using the reasoning that because his RVS vote might be on scum then that is a good reason to leave it there now.

I've explained this several times, so I'm not sure why you still have it wrong.

Because my RVS vote might be on scum means the fact it is an RVS vote was not a sufficient reason to move it. I think it's pretty clear that I found NS's behavior to be scummy.

Don't see your thoughts to NS' behaviour here:

Someone's likely to hit scum in RVS. Why not me?

Are you satisfied with NS's responses?

goodmorning, why do you have an obsession with SD?

Because her little toe has a better judge of character than all of you combined?

Or she spent of her time last game tunnelling me so she's trying to counter-balance that

HEY WHOA

THAT TUNNEL WAS COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED

Only with hindsight. You still ignored the rest which left HD clear.

[Cub Daigoro]

Did you look here:

@NS

, Why no vote in play?

And here?

Vote: Cub Daigoro

Happy now?

I'd be happier if a reason accompanied it.

And in my subsequent pressuring of NS?

[Belisarius]

No, wait, why is this game so dead?

Seems to me weekends are less active.

Personally, not liking all this, "omg reaction test!" that people are throwing out there and admonishing others as an excuse to belittle their play. If you're not being honest and sincere then you're not playing to a town wincon.

Did you

really

just admonish people not to do reaction tests?

Are you surprised that someone trying to flush out town would be disappointed when

nobody

takes the bait?

As for Apozzle, sorry. I clearly fucked up. Henceforth I shall go to sleep with the Activity Overview firmly imprinted into my retina and I will list everyone's last post times on color co-ordinated charts for easy identification. Because I am a machine.

Nice AtE. It's not unreasonable to find inconsistency scummy.

On Cub, he is/was using the reasoning that because his RVS vote might be on scum then that is a good reason to leave it there now.

I've explained this several times, so I'm not sure why you still have it wrong.

Because my RVS vote might be on scum means the fact it is an RVS vote was not a sufficient reason to move it. I think it's pretty clear that I found NS's behavior to be scummy.

It's not that he doesn't understand, it's that he doesn't believe you.

[Edosurist]

"Sure"? Erm what? I

voted

NS for the reasons outlined in the post I voted him in. "Sure scumpick" is your phrasing. So you're line of thought on my line of thought is already off on some beaten, de-railed track.

Y-ya. I realized that afterwards. I sorta blended you and Cub together.

When there's a lot of posts to catch up on, I will try and catch up on them at once. If you like, in the future I can wait 12 hours between each post and incrementally answer people that way. I however, don't think that's a wise course of action.

I, personally, don't have chunks of time that large to spew out consecutive walls. FMPOV, you must've been really excited about something related to the game, so I called you out on it. But now, that just looks like your playstyle.

If you think preferring to lynch a lurker on the face of no other obvious targets is strict, again that is your own interpretation.

Yours

. As for Apozzle, sorry. I clearly fucked up. Henceforth I shall go to sleep with the Activity Overview firmly imprinted into my retina and I will list everyone's last post times on color co-ordinated charts for easy identification. Because I am a machine.

I assumed you had a strict policy because of the way you were treating NS. If you were targeting one lurker, why not the other?
I'm confused by the rest of the paragraph, though. It appears to be sarcasm, but I'm not sure what the purpose of it is.

Don't you see what Edoruist did? You can explain your reasoning further but he'll still grasp onto one straw. Are you in that much of a need of a quick-lynch. You appear very on-edge.

No, I was just reiterating the main point of my argument, and honestly, I missed the paragraph that's in your quote.

In fact, judging by this case against me being your only play of the day, what's your obsession with me?

You seemed so astutely away of the all the playlist before. It's confusing.

Well, I was very busy last week and I was gone this weekend, so I posted when I could, and what I thought was most important.You were most important because you were the scummiest.
And I don't understand what you mean by the last part. It's confusing.

UNVOTE: SafetyDance
I think I've lost my footing in this case, mainly because of 131. I need to look back at the game again.
But for now, I need to have lunch and relax some.

[Gammagooey]

Votecount #6

SafetyDance (4) Messiah, Belisarius, pieceofpecanpie, Cub Diagoro
Nobody Special (3) goodmorning, Apozzle, SafetyDance
Cub Diagoro (2) Nobody Special, implosion
Belisarius (2) ac1983fan, Cheery Dog
pieceofpecanpie (1) Zaicon
Cheery Dog (0)
implosion (0)
goodmorning (0)
Zaicon (0)
Edosurist (0)
Apozzle (0)
ac1983fan (0)
Messiah (0)
Not Voting: Edosurist

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline: Saturday, March 9th 1:00am EST

Messiah is being re-prodded since he PMed me but still hasn't posted in-thread.

[Nobody Special]

It's been a long, busy weekend. This is a prod-dodge promising real content tomorrow.

[implosion]

So sadly, today is very busy.
Sadly, tomorrow is also going to be very busy.
If I can find free time, I will put

something

relevant together before tuesday. I will make a post with an actual significant amount of content on tuesday.

[Cheery Dog]

So sadly, today is very busy.
Sadly, tomorrow is also going to be very busy.
If I can find free time, I will put

something

relevant together before tuesday. I will make a post with an actual significant amount of content on tuesday.

I shall wait, because the more you put it off the better it had be.
but considering I actually think everyone is in this state at the moment, one person's content probably won't change much.

[SafetyDance]

Did you look here:

@NS

, Why no vote in play?

And here?

Vote: Cub Daigoro

Happy now?

I'd be happier if a reason accompanied it.

And in my subsequent pressuring of NS?

What you did afterwards is irrelevant to my actions towards you before.

Those posts, were not mentioned in Post #48, nor did you give any inclination to them and where you felt justified that you hit scum. You directed questioning to another player asking their opinion. No mention of yours.

[Cub Daigoro]

So... Do you still think I was saying I was confident that I had hit scum, or do you understand what I was actually saying now that I've clarified several times?

Do you still think I'm scummy?

[SafetyDance]

Spoiler: Discussion with Beli

As for Apozzle, sorry. I clearly fucked up. Henceforth I shall go to sleep with the Activity Overview firmly imprinted into my retina and I will list everyone's last post times on color co-ordinated charts for easy identification. Because I am a machine.

Nice AtE. It's not unreasonable to find inconsistency scummy.

Except it wasn't inconsistent and it was more of a Abuse-of-Sarcasm to point out something completely stupid.

Exhibit A. Exhibit B (first sentence)

But hey, you're free to think whatever you like if you think I missed something during the times I was online...

Personally, not liking all this, "omg reaction test!" that people are throwing out there and admonishing others as an excuse to belittle their play. If you're not being honest and sincere then you're not playing to a town wincon.

Did you

really

just admonish people not to do reaction tests?

Are you surprised that someone trying to flush out town would be disappointed when

nobody

takes the bait?

No, I find it annoying that people would be so egotistical that they're trying to belittle town just to make themselves look town. You and Apozzle both did it, I don't think its in any way unproductive and if more people start claiming that they were only active-lurker to "see if anyone picks up" then its kinda going to dilute the whole thing don't you think?

Spoiler: Discussion with Edo

I, personally, don't have chunks of time that large to spew out consecutive walls. FMPOV, you must've been really excited about something related to the game, so I called you out on it. But now, that just looks like your playstyle.

What's the difference to this post then? I just break mine up. I want to respond to as much as possible when I can, because I don't know when I'm necessarily going to be back. I break it up if addressing different people or so it is relatively easier to quote different parts.

If you think preferring to lynch a lurker on the face of no other obvious targets is strict, again that is your own interpretation.

Yours

. As for Apozzle, sorry. I clearly fucked up. Henceforth I shall go to sleep with the Activity Overview firmly imprinted into my retina and I will list everyone's last post times on color co-ordinated charts for easy identification. Because I am a machine.

I assumed you had a strict policy because of the way you were treating NS. If you were targeting one lurker, why not the other?
I'm confused by the rest of the paragraph, though. It appears to be sarcasm, but I'm not sure what the purpose of it is.

Very astute, at least you picked it up better than Beli did but he's rather set in his byzantine ways so we can forgive him there. I mentioned NS specifically for reasons already outlined and the point of the sarcasm is just because I mentioned I don't like lurking doesn't mean I'm going to turn into some damn computer and Lurker-Cop everyone in every single post/24hrs of the game when they don't post. Everyone has reasons for periods of inactivity, its when it becomes a playstyle that its a problem.

[SafetyDance]

So... Do you still think I was saying I was confident that I had hit scum, or do you understand what I was actually saying now that I've clarified several times?

Do you still think I'm scummy?

Yes

[Cub Daigoro]

Do you still think I'm NS's scumbuddy?

[Cub Daigoro]

If I ever mod a game, I'm going to have a policy of including prod-dodge posts in my prod counts.

[Zaicon]

@Mod
You have SafetyDance voting for two separate players.

~fixed

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I don't have the time to do much at the moment. I will say that as much as I understand what Edosurist* is arguing in post 233, that isn't really relevant to what PoPP was claiming when he made his SafetyDance vote (which was SD 'jumping off' of NS).

*Wait, why did Edosurist pick up PoPP's defense in the first place?

As for the SafetyDance wagon itself, I'm not sure what the main argument against him is. Will someone summarize it again?

[Cub Daigoro]

All of his votes are bad, especially taken together.

Also this:

Votes for me, but then after some discussion says:

That said, Cub's Post #71 is accurate as well.

Actually, I think you're both looking town at the moment.

Here's post 71:

I just read your iso and failed to come up with any kind of reason to vote me.

Would you [like] to provide some reasoning now?

Out of your seven posts, one has content. It consisted of an OMGUS vote that you described as RVS well past RVS (IMO). You've done literally nothing else. I see no reason to move my vote.

Then later I vote for him, and he responds by reiterating his misinterpretation of the post he quoted when he first voted for me that he had dismissed when calling me town, and after some discussion says:

Do you still think I'm scummy?

Yes

[goodmorning]

At this point I have a pretty strong Townread on Safety, slight on Cub and implosion.
I have mild scumreads on NS and Edo. (I forget what exactly it was for Edo now, but I do recall that the first response of 256 is characteristic.)

[Cub Daigoro]

I do recall that the first response of 256 is characteristic.

What does this mean? Meta?

[goodmorning]

I could have worded that better. I meant characteristic of the other posts in this game that looked scummy to me.

This one in particular makes it look like he's not reading. I'll try and dig up the other posts this evening.

[Cub Daigoro]

Oh, okay.

Can you put your strong town read on Safety into words?

[goodmorning]

It's mostly meta, but it's also that the votehopping he's done just doesn't look scummy in the slightest to me.

[Cub Daigoro]

Deadline: Saturday, March 9th 1:00am EST

That's only four and a half days from now. Let's pick up the pace, kiddies.