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[goodmorning]

Finishing the case in a second, just want to get this out there first.

Calling Apozzle your top lynch candidate makes myself and Safety scumier than him?

CONFUSED

Also people threatening to L-1 me is not frightening. I love L-1. I have replaced into L-1 slots for the thrill of the fight. L-1 just means the game is on.

SO GAME ON, MOTHERFUCKERS


Also

CASES

ARE

GODDAMNED BORING AND I DEFY YOU ALL TO BITCH ABOUT ME NOT LIKING THEM

[goodmorning]

And by a second I mean later this morning, I'm kind of in a rage right now due to outside factors and I need to chill out before I do anything as soul-destroying as a case.

Genuinely sorry for postponing it and postponing the resumption of my usual gameplay though.

[Zaicon]

I'll post more later today, but a quick reply for now:

Oh and this rubbish about not sharing specifics because it helps scum, I don't know where you read that strategy as I, for one, have no idea what you're talking about. Is that your best excuse for casting a vote with opportunistic impunity and taking time out to make up some shit later on?

I'm just going to point out that this was probably directly taken from Nacho's explanation in a previous game (that goodmorning and myself were both in). Let's see... ah, here we are:

I hate posting reads because it lets scum know exactly where you stand, if they should bus, and where the weak points in your townreads are. I wanted to see where those players would end up voting without my read on them influencing their choice at all.

Of course, it seems goodmorning has dropped that particular reasoning at this point. Maybe.

[Cub Daigoro]

Calling Apozzle your top lynch candidate makes myself and Safety scumier than him?

CONFUSED

Susan

PPP was pretty clear about how impressed he was by Apozzle's 390.

CASES

ARE

GODDAMNED BORING

They're especially tedious when you have to fabricate them.

[goodmorning]

It's way more fun to make up a case because it requires actual brainpower.
But way more fun than soul-destroying is still really dull.

I'm not making this one up, and it's pissing me off because everyone is ignoring everything scummy about him.

[ac1983fan]

Alright, so I've been semi-lurking the last few days because of midterms and I worked long shifts this weekend; even though I've been reading my brain has basically been too dead to analyze things carefully. If I can finish my last project and homework today sometime before 4 I should be able to reread this afternoon. I don't think I have much reason to change my vote from Apozzle at this time however.

[Nobody Special]

Dear Amazing Knife of

Japanese

Wondrousness,

I have found that on this site, we can't always dictate what others call us. You get used to it.

Love,
NS



Dear Susan,

I just wanted to say that everytime I see 'popp' my brain reads it as 'poop.' I much prefer Susan.

Love,
NS

[Belisarius]

@Bel, since Safety does not seem like a viable lynch today, which way are you leaning with your vote?

I'm loath to switch my vote off of my top scumread.

I'm still not willing to support a gm lynch, but I'd deadline hammer Apozzle if needed.

[Cub Daigoro]

Are you willing to explain your GM read at this point?

[Belisarius]

Same as my read on you: cumulative microtells with a pinch of intuition. My notes are at work and I'm at home right now; I can post them when I get there, but don't expect to be amazed.

Both you and gm have lately eroded the support I had for you earlier, but not enough to win a vote.

[Belisarius]

EBWOP: It looks to me like you're trying to court my vote -- why do that with someone who has gm as town rather than null?

[Cub Daigoro]

I can post them when I get there, but don't expect to be amazed.

Meh. If you want. Your explanation suffices.

P-edit: Not court. Gauge.

[Cub Daigoro]

@Human Destroyer:

Deadline looming in this game. Comments on recent events needed, please.

[Human Destroyer]

I'll give this game some time in the very near future, don't worry.

It might even involve me reading what happened before I replaced in.

[Cub Daigoro]

Okay.

[Cub Daigoro]

My feeling is that we should aim to force a claim by about this time tomorrow at the very latest. Tonight would be better.

[Apozzle]

Flattery will get you everywhere, Susan. I am glad one whole person acknowledged my post. The rest of you are jerks.

Attrition: that is the game at this point.

Typically I am reluctant to lynch without a claim, other people probably have the same feeling, and we need time to declare intent, get a claim, and evaluate it. But if this keeps going, we will not have that luxury. So, as I see it, the best scum tactic right now is to do as little as possible in these final hours. Town will panic, and if we do not lynch badly then we will likely fail to lynch altogether. However the die falls, scum can apologize later for not being around to push things in the right direction and it will look totally reasonable.

I see delaying tactics from GM.
I see classic NS posting fuck all.
Beli's choice now is just to deadline lynch, apparently.
And ac has practically excused himself for the rest of the day.

I am hoping Safety returns. I am hoping implosion finds the time to weigh in.

---

I should address Susan's "intent to L-1/request to claim" thing. And this is how I will address it:

I agree with it. Less than 36 hours to go now. If you put me in the same position, I would claim. Having evaluated the possible outcomes from my own perspective, I have concluded that the best move from a town player would be to acquiesce to such a demand to prevent the game becoming gridlocked at the end of the day and to potentially break a bad wagon. Furthermore, it might end up being the only chance I would get. I do not believe GM's refusal to be in the best interests of town.

[Cub Daigoro]

^ I agree with every single point except I'm hopeful that AC will return and weigh in.* It pretty much encompasses my thought process leading to my comment in 415.


* And except the being a jerk part.

[Cub Daigoro]

EBWOP: Thinking about it further, though, my timeframe in 415 is too generous. We should aim to force a claim tonight. Period.

[Apozzle]

I agree.

[goodmorning]

Oh, fuck, deadline is in less than 2 days?
GROSS

Lynch me if you have to, I'm only VT so it's no big loss to Town, but honestly ppp is obvScum and you guys are idiots. I'll try and do the rest of the case now if you'll hold off lynching me for a bit.

[Apozzle]

We have a claim. Mission accomplished.

You are still two votes away, so by all means go ahead.

[goodmorning]

212: as little substance as he accused Apozzle of having
214: implication that policy lynches are easy and less valid in every way
238: literally the only Town post from this guy
279: says he's not going to move the Safety wagon and moves it in the same post
327: We want a breakdown of the desperation in the points?
"- Apart from finding his #105 scummy and nonsensical his subsequent posts either haven't seemed scummy or been negligible"
Then why tunnel him for so long? (Unless you were trying for a mislynch and realised you wouldn't get one, that is.)
"- I don't want to jump the gun, but his aggressive defence has read more town than scum"
This point is stupid/fabricated, Scum tend to have to play a more defensive game because offense makes slips more likely to happen and more obvious when they do.
"- The main thing that sticks in my craw is his stubbornness towards NS given there are much more interesting target and avenues to explore Day 1"
NS would be a reasonably decent lynch; there was hella discussion about him which is always good with associative types of tells. This point is simply a way to jump back on the wagon should it re-form.
"- I really didn't like implosion zealously coming in to defend Safety in #109 when he admits that he hasn't read Safety in #119, this of course generates a lot of potential speculation over why this happened at all, but for now that has to go in the backburner. As a consequence however, it leaves some uncertainties over Safety (along with implosion)"
Hey presto, another target, another reason to jump back on the wagon at will.
"- On the whole Safety is a null tell (and thus not good voting fodder), I disagree with his major actions (votes, target choice, reasoning etc.) but find him at the very least reasonably consistent. Breaking down other elements of his gameplay at this point are too speculative and I'm not comfortable making such guesses right now. He remains on my watch list."
AND ANOTHER
Also what in the fuck is going on with this equating of agreement with Townishness? Again, really?

I can do the Apozzle points too if you really want, but I think that's enough of that post for now. Perhaps "desperate" is not quite the word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment, except "scummy as fuck".

328: misreps implosion. If you don't think this is scummy, ask: why would Town deliberately misrepresent another? Accidents happen, of course, but deliberately?
335: misrepping me.
340: this one just pisses me off, to be honest
347: deliberately, blatantly, and dickishly misrepresents implosion to the nth degree. Can any of you look at this post and the post it responds to and claim that ppp is Town? Because if you can you are completely fucking delusional and I intend to avoid games with you in in future.
356: Let me explain to you what is wrong with your argument in 347.
What you did to implosion would be like me as a police officer taking your torrid love affair (You said, in this case: "I stole her heart within a week. I went to the bank for some cash and we eloped.") and arresting you for saying this ("I went to the bank and I stole some cash.").
The first rule of quoting: DON'T BE A DICK (the second rule: try not to change the meaning or intent of the original statement) (I learnt these in fourth grade, so I'm guessing you are aware of them)
360: In what universe is this game passive?
389: Desperation dill? Sorry, did the first half of my case scare you? THEN YOU SHOULD BE FUCKING TERRIFIED RIGHT NOW
395: Despite a slight change in wording...

there's still no Townreads on the list

(This is a Scum attitude bacause it enables flexibility in voting onto any which mislynch should happen by)

SO YEAH
CASE MOTHERFUCKING CLOSED

If anyone else has anything I've failed to answer, by all means re-present your questions now.

[goodmorning]

Bitches.

[pieceofpecanpie]

Also people threatening to L-1 me is not frightening. I love L-1. I have replaced into L-1 slots for the thrill of the fight. L-1 just means the game is on.

SO GAME ON, MOTHERFUCKERS

Flattery will get you everywhere, Susan.

I hope you recognised it as sincere, since it was intended that way.

I mean when the end of the day is approaching and someone comes out of the woodwork and puts in effort, that's just a beacon of hope to me, you know? I don't care whether it's all scum bluff or no, it's encouraging nonetheless. Not trying to take anything off the others who are here and active, I appreciate that. However, I do hope those few who haven't weighed much into things for a while put their thoughts down before the day's out.

I'm very happy to see a GM lynch looming. I feel it's the right choice, and that's merely reinforced by her stalling the mudslinging campaign on me and refusing to answer the large wagon on her with a claim. If there are people out there exceptionally opposed to it, tell us why. If you haven't thrown insight out lately, speak up.

edit:

I posted this, it didn't post it telling me "no multiposts", but this post ceases to exist for me. Now we're a bunch of posts later so some of the thoughts are already redundant, but I'll stick it up anyway and catch up with the new stuff.