Newbie 1339 - Game Over! (Scum Win)

[fuzzybutternut]

GuyInFreezer, who do you think is more scum--Yoshi or Fuzzy? I feel like they're both really scummy, but I'm leaning more towards Yoshi.
As for my rationale, my earlier posts speak to why I think both of them deserve a lynch.


Speaking of, here's my current reads:

fuzzybutternut - Scum. Especially evident in the No Lynch and breakdown of rhetoric when at L-1.
Approximately Normal Guy - Null. Helpful, if a bit of an ass. Posts in shotgun blasts.
GuyInFreezer - Null. Not enough posts to discern. Seems pro-town, but could be misleading scum.
Remembrance - Null. Same read as GuyInFreezer.
RandomYoshi - Scum. Since both he and Fuzzy voted for Kuror0, I'm feeling more confident on this read. He's too defensive, sheepy, and indecisive.

kuror0 - Null. Really pro-town, but could always be misleading scum. He lurks too hard, but we've been over this. Did an ISO and leaning town on him.

Nobody Special - Null. Leaning town. Posts are short, but pretty pro-town, does some things that could be real scum-bluffing, but that's likely me over-thinking it.
Nachomamma8 -Null. Leaning town. I want to outright say he's town, but he's like the Vegeta of this game--such an anti-hero.

Umm, what? Not even 10 posts ago you said he was being "scummier than Yoshi has ever been."

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 1.6

Varsoon (0) -
fuzzybutternut (2) - Nobody Special, kuror0
Approximately Normal Guy (0) -
GuyInFreezer (1) - Remembrance
Remembrance (0) -
RandomYoshi (2) - Nachomamma8, Varsoon
kuror0 (2) - RandomYoshi, fuzzybutternut
Nobody Special (0) -
Nachomamma8 (0) -

Not Voting: Approximately Normal Guy, GuyInFreezer

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is Thursday, March 21st at 4:00 am PST or in

(expired on 2013-03-21 04:00:00)

[TraceyLyn11]

Approximately Normal Guy has been prodded.

(apologies for the late prod; I assumed they would be given out after 72 hours, not 48)

[Remembrance]

Are you guys sure approximately normal guy isn't scum? Scumdar is going off crazy from this guy.

[GuyInFreezer]

Rest of the reads:

Nachomamma8: His post 130 I can't set my mind upon. Few points from there I can see scumhunting going on, but it also seems like he's defending Varsoon and even coaching him. ("you're reacting too strongly. calm.") Like his interrogation on Fuzzy on post 132~139. He seems to ask questions that are not fillers but actually contentful questions. Other than what I pointed out, his play doesn't look scummy to me. He haven't worked on ANG and NS yet. Overall, leaning town.

Kuror0: Didn't do much until Post 201. Seems like the pressure on him was building from post 275. Since post 201, he was most entirely on Fuzzy it seems.

I would like to see his reads so far.

For now, null.

Conclusion: RY is the scummiest.

VOTE: RandomYoshi

[Varsoon]

Umm, what? Not even 10 posts ago you said he was being "scummier than Yoshi has ever been."

Yeah, in those recent posts that he made, he was. However, Yoshi has been consistently reading as scum to me and to other people.

I took awhile to breathe, ISO him, and think about it and now I feel that Kur0 is just reacting strongly because he want to move the game in a direction. If he flips scum, I won't be surprised. Like I said, he's actually been very pro-town in a lot of his other posts.

But, honestly? The whole reason I put a vote on him and reacted so strongly was to see what move you and Yoshi would make when I took my vote off of him since both of you want him lynched and I think you're both scum.
It's interesting that you're quick to call attention to that. I've noticed that scum does a similar thing when someone gets killed/mislynched.

[Varsoon]

Are you guys sure approximately normal guy isn't scum? Scumdar is going off crazy from this guy.

I'm null on him because he hasn't done anything really anti or pro town.
He's just kinda lurking, posting fluff, and agreeing with (even bad) ideas (see post 40ish).
I really don't like him because he asked me to explain something and when I did it as simply as I could, he mocked me for explaining it simply. :/
Otherwise, I think it's interesting that he's tried to diffuse a handful of situations. Most notable is the time that Fuzzy voted NoLynch.

Why do you think he's scum?
What makes him more scum than other people lurking just as hard/harder?

[Remembrance]

I refuse to answer that question.

Spoiler:

I am trying to make him actually do something. Like, say, vote. Or maybe be more assertive like he was in every other game where he was town.

Edited for readability.

[TraceyLyn11]

I refuse to answer that question.

I am trying to make him actually do something. Like, say, vote. Or maybe be more assertive like he was in every other game where he was town.

Only clickable spoilers are allowed. Please don't use this kind again.

[Varsoon]

Rest of the reads:

Nachomamma8: His post 130 I can't set my mind upon. Few points from there I can see scumhunting going on, but it also seems like he's defending Varsoon and even coaching him. ("you're reacting too strongly. calm.") Like his interrogation on Fuzzy on post 132~139. He seems to ask questions that are not fillers but actually contentful questions. Other than what I pointed out, his play doesn't look scummy to me. He haven't worked on ANG and NS yet. Overall, leaning town.

Kuror0: Didn't do much until Post 201. Seems like the pressure on him was building from post 275. Since post 201, he was most entirely on Fuzzy it seems.

I would like to see his reads so far.

For now, null.

Conclusion: RY is the scummiest.

VOTE: RandomYoshi

As far as Nacho goes, I can definitely attest that his advice is solely being given as either a scum trying to act town or town trying to keep their town-reads from being mislynched. Either way, he's an IC, so I expect that sort of stuff from him in a noob game. I think that Nacho may be town, but like I said, good scum is capable of anything.

I really wish Yoshi would contribute something substantial, because I'll feel like shit if we vote to lynch him and he flips town. I'm wavering between him and Fuzzy for scum right now, so I really am waiting for one of them to give me more to work with that'll help me decide one way or the other.

[Remembrance]

My bad, Sorry Mrs. Mod

It's just one of those rule breaking days I guess.

[GuyInFreezer]

It seems like ANG is like gone since Friday or something. (Checked his profile) He might get replaced.

[Varsoon]

I refuse to answer that question.

I am trying to make him actually do something. Like, say, vote. Or maybe be more assertive like he was in every other game where he was town.

Edited for readability.

Makes sense. I'm starting to understand how important voting is, and it seems pretty scum to not use a vote/sit back and never risk town making a lynch too early. I mean, using your vote too much can lead to a situation like the one Yoshi is in, as well.

It's hard to use the subjunctive--ie, wishful thinking--in this game. Saying "I want X to do Y so he seems more town/I can get a better read" always looks like a coaching/buddying effort, and we're pretty much all guilty of it. I was planning on doing it more so that I could prod people who I think are scum into making stupid slips, but it seems like a risky thing to do, considering.

One of my biggest worries isn't even being mislynched. It's knowing that if I play strongly enough or discover scum and hunt them, I might be killed at night. Scum gets to just decide who can't play anymore.

Bah, anyway, can you tell me how you feel about Fuzzy and Yoshi? It seems like most of the rest of us are split between both of them on votes and I'd like to know how you, a newcomer to the game, feels about how they've been playing so far.

[Varsoon]

It seems like ANG is like gone since Friday or something. (Checked his profile) He might get replaced.

Is this typically how noob games/games in general go?
I hate making reads when 1/3 to 1/2 of the players aren't even playing the game. It feels like I'm taking a test but I don't even get to see half of the questions.

[GuyInFreezer]

It seems like ANG is like gone since Friday or something. (Checked his profile) He might get replaced.

Is this typically how noob games/games in general go?
I hate making reads when 1/3 to 1/2 of the players aren't even playing the game. It feels like I'm taking a test but I don't even get to see half of the questions.

Yeah. Flaking and replacement happens a lot in newbie games.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'd like to have a replacement on him, to get some actual content from his slot.

[RandomYoshi]

For the matter, I have two exams this week. One is on Wednesday, and one is on Friday. I will see if I can have a wall up by either Saturday or Sunday. But I might have it up tomorrow.

[fuzzybutternut]

I, too, have exams Wednesday and Thursday, so my posting may be minimal.

[RandomYoshi]

Before that though. Nacho, how is kuror0's reactions to being voted Town?

[Remembrance]

The scummiest of slips.

[Remembrance]

Don't hammer Kuror, or I will murder you and throw your body in a ditch.

VOTE: Yoshi

[Remembrance]

What did you mean Kuror0 was town?

[RandomYoshi]

I want Nacho to elaborate on what he has said. How in the world is that a scumslip? It's promoting discussion, which is pro-Town.

[Remembrance]

UNVOTE: Yoshi

Reaction test.

[Remembrance]

Back to the regularly scheduled program. VOTE: GuyinFreezer