Newbie 1339 - Game Over! (Scum Win)

[RandomYoshi]

GuyInFreezer, what is your opinion on Rememberance's play?

[Remembrance]

Do you guys think he failed it? Usually if my life was on the line like that and I had voted and my scum read was on and had the ability to hammer me, I would panic. He had curiosity.

[RandomYoshi]

For the record, I am incredibly curious as to why kurur0 is Town for reacting like he did when he was voted. It can make me take new stances on this game, and even actually contributing to the game a substantial amount.

[RandomYoshi]

Because I don't know if it's me or something, but unless I've missed something then I really couldn't see anything new from his side when he was put on L-2/L-1.

[fuzzybutternut]

It's sad that it takes so much to make you contribute to the game, Yoshi.

[RandomYoshi]

I'm bad at Day 1. I don't have a flip to go after on Day 1. X_x

[kuror0]

Weeee i join the exams group. But i am lazy so i will probably post the same i always do. Anyways...

Is this typically how noob games/games in general go?
I hate making reads when 1/3 to 1/2 of the players aren't even playing the game. It feels like I'm taking a test but I don't even get to see half of the questions.

Yeah, most newbie games have lots of replacements the first day a few in some cases for day two but then it goes smoothly. And for me it is when the fun part really begins.

One of my biggest worries isn't even being mislynched. It's knowing that if I play strongly enough or discover scum and hunt them, I might be killed at night. Scum gets to just decide who can't play anymore.

If you are town you shouldn't worry about being mislynched or NK'ed. You win with town no matter if you are alive or not. If you get NK'ed in most cases is because scum thinks of you as a threat so you should feel good about it . And even a mislynch can be very useful for town, if you are aware that scums are on your wagon then use your reads and your flip as a way to prove their guiltiness, and win the game from the grave!.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm bad at Day 1. I don't have a flip to go after on Day 1. X_x

Fair enough. Can't really blame you, just try more.

[kuror0]

For the record, I am incredibly curious as to why kurur0 is Town for reacting like he did when he was voted. It can make me take new stances on this game, and even actually contributing to the game a substantial amount.

So you want the reasons to adopt them yourself and not to solidify a read on me?

[GuyInFreezer]

Rem? He overreacts when somebody throws suspicion at him. Bit flip-floppy (or wishy-washy however people call it.)and vote parking.

I take his overreaction as his personality/playstyle, but being flip-floppy and vote parking is a scumtell imo.

Notice how he agrees with my "comment" and immediatly land on me after Nacho points me out for it.

Also, his "reaction test" on RY was terrible. Putting somebody in L-1 as "reaction vote" is bit too much. (Even though he unvoted kinda quickly.)

Rem, can I have your reads, please?

[kuror0]

Kuror0: Didn't do much until Post 201. Seems like the pressure on him was building from post 275. Since post 201, he was most entirely on Fuzzy it seems.

I would like to see his reads so far.

For now, null.

They are not ready yet. As i said in a previous post when we get closer to deadline i will post them.

[RandomYoshi]

ANYWAY

Varsoon, can you please explain why you blindly unvoted kuror0 just because Nacho told you so?

@kuror0: Nope. It's always neat to have reasons provided with things as important as a read. And having multiple of them can catch the Scum with almost no effort at all. Trust me, this is how I actually scumhunt.

@Guy: BUSTED.

Rememberance is Town. His 376 is Townish. As Scum, he'd say "guys, he failed it. Let's lynch him." But that was not what he did. He asked an open question.to everyone. That is very Town.

[RandomYoshi]

kuror0, why are you waiting until almost-deadline to post your reads? Don't you realise that doing so is anti-Town, because then no-one can comment on them without hogging their computers?

[GuyInFreezer]

Reaction tests are done with hope to see certain reaction from the target. If he doesn't know which reaction he hopes to get from the target, why reaction test at the first place? Also, randomly voting someone to L-1 with an excuse of "reaction test" is anti-town at least.

[RandomYoshi]

Also, randomly voting someone to L-1 with an excuse of "reaction test" is anti-town at least.

How is that? It can give off alignment tells. Doing so is pro-Town.

[Remembrance]

No one was going to hammer him unless they were scum, GuyinFreezer.

Reads:

Scummy GuyInFreezer, ANG, Yoshi Kuror Nacho NB Fuzzy Varsoon Townie.

[Varsoon]

ANYWAY

Varsoon, can you please explain why you blindly unvoted kuror0 just because Nacho told you so?

@kuror0: Nope. It's always neat to have reasons provided with things as important as a read. And having multiple of them can catch the Scum with almost no effort at all. Trust me, this is how I actually scumhunt.

@Guy: BUSTED.

Rememberance is Town. His 376 is Townish. As Scum, he'd say "guys, he failed it. Let's lynch him." But that was not what he did. He asked an open question.to everyone. That is very Town.

Already did this in post 355.
Please carefully read everything before employing implicating rhetoric.
It'll make you less transparent.

[GuyInFreezer]

L-1 is a critical and dangerous place, because 1 more vote means hammer. That's why we're stating L-1 vote or intent to hammer. To prevent derp-hammer and stuff. Putting someone in L-1 with weak reason (such at mentioned "reaction test") is putting someone in danger with weak reason. How is that pro-town?

@Rem: there is something called derp-hammer. And most of them comes from town.

[Remembrance]

You see any derps here GuyInFreezer?

[GuyInFreezer]

Do you know what derp-hammer is? Also 10/10 reads. Now care to explain those reads?

[Remembrance]

I've already explained how I want to do this right now GuyInFreezer. I want activity, and I will lie about my reads to get it if I need to.

[Varsoon]

Leaning towards Remembrance being scum now, since Yoshi is so quick to ally with him and he's so quick to defend Yoshi. This is mostly based off of how I feel about Yoshi as well as Remembrance's 'test'.
Also, it's really kind of frustrating that the two new players are instantly at each other's throats. It's a safe play since you both have nothing to go on for eachother, so it's sort of like a mini RVS for you, but c'mon.

[Remembrance]

Guilt by association. Be very careful Varsoon. All the newbies do it. Not even joking.

[RandomYoshi]

So you don't actually believe in your own reads, Rememberance?

[Remembrance]

I believe in my reads. I believe they will help day 2.