Newbie 1339 - Game Over! (Scum Win)

[GuyInFreezer]

That's a scum slip.

I don't see it. Can you point it out for me?

Would scum poE themselves?

Define "PoEing oneself." You've been saying this quite a lot, but I don't understand the concept of PoEing oneself. (Btw I know what the term PoE is so you don't have to explain the definition.)

[Remembrance]

Okay, you think Yoshi is town right? And Yoshi town slipped. Nacho knows Yoshi town slipped because he's town and can't lie about his reads, because he's actually scum hunting. I revealed I'm town out the gate. And Varsoon did too.

Do you see the problem yet?

Game's almost over.

[kuror0]

I could be bluffing, but the fact you just said that means you believe me.

So, I'm town. Surprise. I hope that broke everyone's minds. I didn't say I soft claimed vanilla though. And why are you so sure i'm town?

I never said i believed in you. I think there is a chance you are town, but I am not convinced of it. Specially because your play so far seems not townie. Also you soft claimed vanilla or are you gonna deny that soft claim?

Lastly, Where the heck did I said I was sure of you being town?

[Remembrance]

Why are you being defensive Kuror0? That's your scum slip.

[kuror0]

I'm not defensive, but i won't sit watching you put words on my mouth.

[Remembrance]

We'll find out eventually. There's not enough players left in this game who don't know they're town and don't know at least one other player is town who's actually town.

[GuyInFreezer]

So basically what Rem is saying is that he's town because he claimed town?
If so
@Rem: would you think NS as town if he claimed town as well?

[Remembrance]

Nope.

[Remembrance]

Unless he claimed a power role. But then he's doomed anyway.

[kuror0]

If i have scum slipped so hard and so much, then why don't you make a case on me? Should be pretty easy to get me lynched then.

Also, sorry, I don't town hunt. Not interested in finding towns, I rather try to find the scums. Specially cause as town you never "know", you believe. I won't be certain about someones alignment until they flip, seems I am not as informed as you are.

[kuror0]

So Rem won't believe in someone else claiming town, yet not long ago he was trying to pull the "Believe me i am town" thing and we are supposed to believe him... ok.

[Remembrance]

My way is more effective Kuror0. Scum want people to scum hunt, because it's easier to suspect than it is to trust. But once you have that trust. Scum lose every time.

[kuror0]

My way is more effective Kuror0. Scum want people to scum hunt, because it's easier to suspect than it is to trust. But once you have that trust. Scum lose every time.

Where you got it is more effective? Is there a way to prove it? and a mistrust will cost town the game, so I'm not a big fan of it.

[Remembrance]

I need to stop shit posting now though. I'm liable to get warned for this, so I'm going to change my posting style back. Nacho liked it, but it's still a terrible way to play the game (but it's a lot easier to get a feel for the players in it) and probably infuriating for everyone posting in it. I'll switch back to effort posts now. I was just trying out a new style. I hope I didn't offend anyone too much. Sorry, and I won't do it again.

The problem with this whole thing Kuror and I don't want to start a derail here, is that you're ignoring how we got these three confirmed towns.

One got reaction tested and he tested genuine. Varsoon deserves the town read from his effort posting and win con playing. And I deserve it for playing with the town's win con in mind and probably because I'm not a sociopath. That's all that matters. And that's too many for the scum to win. Power roles are secondary to confirming town members. Which is secondary to confirming scum. It got process of eliminationed because we knew the wincon and who was and was not playing toward the win con. I think it easier, personally, in newbie games at least, to see the town in a player than to see the scum in a player. This belonged in the mafia discussion board though. Sorry for the derail guys.

[GuyInFreezer]

What's your definition of "confirmed"?

[Remembrance]

Probably town. Doesn't get much closer than that. I can never know for sure after all

[Remembrance]

^ scum wouldn't say that by the way. I town slipped.

[GuyInFreezer]

......

And I was so close to put you into my townlist

[Remembrance]

Like I said, I'm a pretty good lynch today if NS claims a PR. Just to confirm I'm not crazy. And that reaction is probably why you're town GuyInfreezer. I'm really dumb, but that can work to its advantage sometimes.

[Goku]

Martyring is never pro-town. Just so you know. Never offer yourself as a lynch.

Playing passive-aggressive is a scumtell for you, or is it because I was undermining the case on me?

You're on the sidelines and refuse to take a hard stance that people can attack you for. In other words, you're playing much more defensively than town would.

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 1.11

Varsoon (0) -
fuzzybutternut (2) - kuror0, Nobody Special
Goku (0) -
GuyInFreezer (0) -
Remembrance (1) - GuyInFreezer
RandomYoshi (0) -
kuror0 (1) - fuzzybutternut
Nobody Special (3) - Nachomamma8, Remembrance, RandomYoshi
Nachomamma8 (0) -

Not Voting: Goku, Varsoon

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is Thursday, March 21st at 4:00 am PST or in

(expired on 2013-03-21 04:00:00)

[Remembrance]

That was just another town slip goku, don't worry about it, I'm not the lynch today. It's just simply a bad idea at this point.

Still think it''s Fuzzy and NS. Goku doesn't sound like he's scum about to bite it. And Kuror pretty much told me he's town by him asking me to build a case on him. Like I'm scum or something and therefore would make a fake case -_-).

I could be wrong of course.

[Varsoon]

It's not about your vote. It's this one sentence that irks me.

Starting to care less about you being scum or not.
No one's lynching you.

Forgot to address this forever ago and I meant to.


I was pretty frustrated that I spend 10+ pages building a case against Yoshi and even when he got to L-2, there wasn't really much concern about him being lynched. It was a wagon headed nowhere, and that bugged me, because I really thought he was scum.

[Remembrance]

Welp. Varsoon is town. That's exactly what I thought he was thinking.

[Varsoon]

Currently You and kuror0 are my top scumreads. You for just following whoever appears to be the most town at any given time, and kuror0 for passive-aggressive efforts to attack people's credibility rather than actually scumhunting.

While Varsoon is my top townread thus far, he could benefit greatly from learning how to be succinct and concise. Most people aren't going to listen if they have to sift through a wall of text to find two great points.

This is actually a countermeasure for me to discern scum from town. I won't go into the semantics.

I'm glad someone else feels the same way about Yoshi that I do.