Micro 142: Pokemon! [TEAM ROCKET VICTORY]

[shos]

well in my language there's a saying that literally translates to something like 'he who admits mistake shall be relieved'...or something, lol.

so yeah, I made a mistake. earlier I thought you guys were completely douches lol


game needs more active people.

[Zhero]

UNVOTE:
I think I see where shos is coming from.

Interested to hear Krew's rationale for his vote.

[Ravenpaw]

Yay lots of activity brings out my happy!

Unvote
VOTE: Shos

Posts incoming.

[Ravenpaw]

I'm fairly sure nobody is a VT...
Anyway yeah didn't think about how protective would be obvious.

in post 1 mod said:

"This is a closed setup, which means the only roles you will know in advance are your own and that of any other player I mention in your role PM. All other role information is secret, including how many players with a certain role exist and even if the role exists in the first place. Yes, a game with absolutely no vanilla townies is possible. It's been done before."

so there may or may not be VTs. that is enough with setup specs.

Also, not only protective roles would be obvious. I mean duh Chansey is prob doc but ya know if I knew someone was Entei I'd have a guess about whether they're powerful >__> and if I have one charmander and one charizard against me as scum, I would obviously know which one to shoot. you've been acting bad.

All of this reads as someone who did not get a townie PM, my fellow townies would know exactly what I'm talking about.

No, Swords posted the “I am town” twice in his post (I bolded it below so you see it!):

Lol...JW..
Bad enough you claim IC....
don't try and paint a giant ass bullseye on yourself or nothing. ..


But sure. .. for easy viewing pleasure:

I am town

Also

Vote: Ravenpaw

For reminding me of harry potter for some reason

I am town

Did you not properly read his post or something?

may I ask how 'later' you are planning to use that I am town thingie.?

also Hype got a point

VOTE: Ravenpaw

You’re attack is not very effective shos, after seeing what I just wrote above do you still feel Hyper has a point?

uh, yes? I believe this is another misunderstanding...or something: hype and me voted YOU. not SWORDS. have YOU been reading properly.?

Yes I have been reading properly, moreso then you seems who keeps pulling the "misunderstanding" card.

Oi, I forgot to vote this - VOTE: SleepyKrew.

however

it should be noted that I'm keeping an FoS on Raven, the reaction to my pressure justified it very well. the vote would still lie there if SK didn't bug me moar.

What about my reaction justifies it?
What bugs you about SK?

@59: how on earth is that a question of motives. I dunno, the way I see this, I spelled out perfectly well what I meant.

Jason's playing just really really bad. I don't remember specifics but, it's been like three times already that I wanted to lynch him and said oh shit.

Can you show me some examples of where you believe a Jason lynch would have been justified?

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@60: yup. and we'd still lynch him for being scummy/stupid.

wow. you guys are like, seriously bad.

Vote: Sword

For repeating the ‘I am Town’ statement, seems like you’re a little too keen to push that idea through.

Also

Vote: Ravenpaw

For reminding me of harry potter for some reason

It’s weird you saying this because my avatar is Emma Watson lol.

Also for Jason: I am town.

So you voted Sword for the "I am town" statement ad then do the exact same thing?

VOTE: Ravenpaw
Also, for now I am against nameclaims

The vote is agains RAVENPAW. the reson is that he voted SWORD because SWORD repeated the I AM TOWN.

AFTER

that, RAVENPAW repeated the I AM TOWN. THEREFORE RAVEN IS BEING HYPOCRITICAL

For a guy that hates to be misrepped you certainly seem to have no problem doing it to others… I am not being hypocritical. I voted swords for saying in his post “I am town” twice (that’s called repeating), in my post I do not say it twice therefore it was not hypocritical.

[Ravenpaw]

I do agree with you on Ravenpaw though, and I don't think her reactions are as Genuine as Jason says they are. the insta-buddy her and Omens did still bother me, but Omen is doing ok now I guess. questioning when it's needed, and wot-not.

Insta-buddy? Please show me where.

UNVOTE:
I think I see where shos is coming from.

Can you explain this please Zhero?

[Ms Marangal]

the Insta-buddying that I'm talking about is the post I was originally concerned with. the post where you and Omen instantly did what Jason asked without a second thought. I read your reasoning on it, but the fact is, that it had happened.

[Ravenpaw]

But I did think about it, my brain told me it was fairly obvious that he had some sort of lie detector ability.
Also, being that Jason is an IC, why should I have shown him any doubt in his motives?

[Zhero]

Can you explain this please Zhero?

His frustration feels legitimate, and he's right that I misread him talking about misunderstandings (ironic though that may be). I still get a defensive feel from his post, but it reads fairly honest to me.

[Ms Marangal]

But I did think about it, my brain told me it was fairly obvious that he had some sort of lie detector ability.
Also, being that Jason is an IC, why should I have shown him any doubt in his motives?

well... My brain didn't, My brain questioned what exactly he was trying to do with his post and what I had come up with was he was trying to see if people would follow him. his motives isn't questionable, it's obviously coming from a town mindset. what was questionable though, was the motives of those who followed him IE yours and Omens

[Ravenpaw]

Hmm this Ms Marangal gives me a very different vibe then the one I played with before, but maybe it’s because her playstyle is evolving (pun not intended, lol).

But I did think about it, my brain told me it was fairly obvious that he had some sort of lie detector ability.
Also, being that Jason is an IC, why should I have shown him any doubt in his motives?

well... My brain didn't, My brain questioned what exactly he was trying to do with his post and what I had come up with was he was trying to see if people would follow him. his motives isn't questionable, it's obviously coming from a town mindset. what was questionable though, was the motives of those who followed him IE yours and Omens

Everything would've been questionable in that situation, because if we had dug our heels in and said ‘nah we’re not gonna do that Jason’ then you could’ve said that that was questionable. And if we had just ignored him completely then that also would've been questionable. Either way you could’ve made a case on whatever direction Swords or I decided to take in regards to Jason’s request. So your argument does not hold.

his motives isn't questionable, it's obviously coming from a town mindset.

But you did question his motives

Finally, Ms M have you never come across the lie detector role before?

[Ms Marangal]

no I have not come across a lie detector, why?

and no I didn't, I just questioned the usefulness of what he was asking, which wasn't very.

[JasonWazza]

and no I didn't, I just questioned the usefulness of what he was asking, which wasn't very.

Second Conf. town or conf. scum lynch isn't very useful?

[Ravenpaw]

no I have not come across a lie detector, why?

and no I didn't, I just questioned the usefulness of what he was asking, which wasn't very.

Because I remember you saying that you were fairly experienced on another board so it felt a bit odd to me you hadn't come across a lie detector before.

And yeah, asking about the usefulness of something Jason was doing

is

questioning his motives.

[JasonWazza]

Also Shos fact of the matter, i am playing different because i am conf. town and have nothing to lose by being scummy as i want.

But i am playing in a way that is useful to my role.

no I have not come across a lie detector, why?

and no I didn't, I just questioned the usefulness of what he was asking, which wasn't very.

Because I remember you saying that you were fairly experienced on another board so it felt a bit odd to me you hadn't come across a lie detector before.

And yeah, asking about the usefulness of something Jason was doing

is

questioning his motives.

To be fair i hadn't come across it till recently as well (think i'd seen it in another game once but never played with it)

[Ms Marangal]

and no I didn't, I just questioned the usefulness of what he was asking, which wasn't very.

Second Conf. town or conf. scum lynch isn't very useful?

no, it is but I didn't see that when I had questioned it. I'm stating what I saw then

no I have not come across a lie detector, why?

and no I didn't, I just questioned the usefulness of what he was asking, which wasn't very.

Because I remember you saying that you were fairly experienced on another board so it felt a bit odd to me you hadn't come across a lie detector before.

And yeah, asking about the usefulness of something Jason was doing

is

questioning his motives.

I am yeah, around 10 months but a lie detector isn't a common role ,from what I understand, and it can easily be over-powered.

and no, just because you have town motives for something, doesn't always mean the outcome will always be useful.

[thenewearth]

I don't see why we don't claim our Pokemon. Jason first and then popcorn? Or just go down the playerlist in order (that means me first)?

I'm town btw

No. It'll be bad. Scum can guess what role

I'm fairly sure nobody is a VT...
Anyway yeah didn't think about how protective would be obvious.

Unless magikarp

[thenewearth]

Oh btw...

VOTE: /sleepykrew

For wanting everyone to claim this early in the game. It's bad.

But may change when I catch up.

Also...

HI MM!!!

[shos]

@post 78: first quote: explain please; I specified my reasons for why SK's post was bad, bad, and finally, anti town. IIRC, I'm also voting him, so..?

second and third quotes: have you been reading the game? the whole topic of the first one was resolved already. yes, I made a mistake, why keep grinding at it? or is it a part of your 'case'? I also explained SK (like, a minute ago talked about it) and that 'justification' (even less than a minute ago).

forth quote: nope. Jason is conftown. Innocent child declared by the mod. why would I start digging for reasons to lynch him. If I see some I'll point them out for you from now on, but it's a complete waste of time to go back for it now~

fifth: and once again you're repeating. *actively ignores*
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in conclusion, a bad OMGUS with a "I didn't read the game" case. Ima think about voting you for that, lol.
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But I did think about it,

my brain told me it was fairly obvious that he had some sort of lie detector ability

.
Also, being that Jason is an IC, why should I have shown him any doubt in his motives?

????
your brain told you.? explain please. also, I believe 'showing doubt in motives' is not the correct term to describe this. the right thing to say would be, why did you NOT wonder why?

But I did think about it, my brain told me it was fairly obvious that he had some sort of lie detector ability.
Also, being that Jason is an IC, why should I have shown him any doubt in his motives?

well... My brain didn't, My brain questioned what exactly he was trying to do with his post

this. it's like a copypaste of my thought. I agree less with the rest of this post, tho.

@84: lol @ pun
the correct reaction pre-claim was somthing like 'I am town. now why did you want me to say that'.
actually when revising it, you kinda had a point there with swords. his post looks odd.
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I've never played with a LD before too. is it common raven? is this why your 'brain' told you?
@89: I'm guessing that any LD more than 1shot is entirely OPed.

thenewearth, you vote and THEN go to read up? that's bad. you're lucky your vote is on the right target lol

[shos]

unofficial VC:

VOTE COUNT lol by shos

1. SleepyKrew (3) - JasonWazza, shos, thenewearth

2. Hyperion (0) -
3. Ms Marangal (1) - sword_of_omens
4. thenewearth (0) -
5. JasonWazza (0) -
6. shos (2) - SleepyKrew, Ravenpaw
7. Zhero (0) -
8. Ravenpaw (1) - Hyperion
9. sword_of_omens (0) -

NOT VOTING (2): Zhero, Ms Marangal,

DEADLINE: (expired on 2013-03-25 16:00:00)

thenewearth has put SK in L-2

[JasonWazza]

Why does it really matter why i asked for it, clearly it would have some further use, there was no need to ask about it really.

Also Lie Detector is only OP if it's known there is one and s/he isn't claimed, because once claimed it's about as useful as a claimed cop.

P-Edit: L-2 isn't that bad, notify people when it's L-1

[thenewearth]

Wait he's an SK? We should definitely lynch him if he is.

Also... When did he say he was SK?

[JasonWazza]

SleepyKrew's nickname is SK you dope

[thenewearth]

Oh... crap... I should really rest my brain so I won't make that mistake again

[shos]

when something looks odd, I ask about it and question it, even if it comes from a conftown. it's not in order to imply you're scum, it's in order to understand.

if it was something like, "everyone post in bold, daykill: thenewearth", on the basis of 'trust me', would you do that?? nope. you'd ask about it. even if it was a conftown talking.

[Ravenpaw]

Lol, you make me laugh Shos, it’s such a shame your scum.

@post 78: first quote: explain please; I specified my reasons for why SK's post was bad, bad, and finally, anti town. IIRC, I'm also voting him, so..?

No I will not explain, you yourself have said that there has been enough said about setup speculation.

second and third quotes: have you been reading the game? the whole topic of the first one was resolved already. yes, I made a mistake, why keep grinding at it? or is it a part of your 'case'? I also explained SK (like, a minute ago talked about it) and that 'justification' (even less than a minute ago).

Your 'justification' for your suspicion is not justified however, because I have already explained why I was not hypocritical. You never said you made a mistake and you have said my reaction to your vote was suspicious so I wanted to know why? What exactly about my reaction do you feel justifies a FOS? Also are you confirming to me that Hyper did not have a point when he voted for me?

forth quote: nope. Jason is conftown. Innocent child declared by the mod. why would I start digging for reasons to lynch him. If I see some I'll point them out for you from now on, but it's a complete waste of time to go back for it now~

I know Jason is confirmed town, I asked for examples because I wanted to try and figure out your line of thinking and what stuck out at you as scummy Jason play.

fifth: and once again you're repeating. *actively ignores*

I was not repeating myself; I was explaining to you why my actions are not hypocritical.
Actively ignoring someone is very anti-town btw.

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in conclusion, a bad OMGUS with a "I didn't read the game" case. Ima think about voting you for that, lol.
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My case on you Shos is this: you jumped quickly onto my wagon by grabbing onto Hyper’s invalid reason. You did not look at the actual posts that created this conflict because if you had you would’ve realised that it was invalid. Also you have continually misrepped people and you are overly defensive. Your reaction to the roles in the game in post 51 is also very telling to me.

But I did think about it,

my brain told me it was fairly obvious that he had some sort of lie detector ability

.
Also, being that Jason is an IC, why should I have shown him any doubt in his motives?

????
your brain told you.? explain please. also, I believe 'showing doubt in motives' is not the correct term to describe this. the right thing to say would be, why did you NOT wonder why?

Yes my brain told me so, lol. Basically that was a very crude way of me explaining my thought processes of why Jason’s request made sense to me.

But I did think about it, my brain told me it was fairly obvious that he had some sort of lie detector ability.
Also, being that Jason is an IC, why should I have shown him any doubt in his motives?

well... My brain didn't, My brain questioned what exactly he was trying to do with his post

this. it's like a copypaste of my thought. I agree less with the rest of this post, tho.

@84: lol @ pun
the correct reaction pre-claim was somthing like 'I am town. now why did you want me to say that'.
actually when revising it, you kinda had a point there with swords. his post looks odd.
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I've never played with a LD before too. is it common raven? is this why your 'brain' told you?
@89: I'm guessing that any LD more than 1shot is entirely OPed.

I don’t know if the lie detector is common, I have come across it once in a game before that I had read but not participated in.
What does Oped mean?

Also, Shos for clarification can you please explain your case on SK for me?