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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:55 pm

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Remembrance wrote:Yoshi is mah buddy. Just saying. *hugs* But he's my town buddy. Town need teams too you know. Or else how does town win?

HI TOWNBUDDY <3
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:55 pm

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RandomYoshi wrote:Remembrance is Town, which is why I am not participating in his lynch. His reaction test against me made me really certain that he was Town.


No one is falling for this 'reaction test so GOOOOOOD' play anymore.
You can drop it.
How about making an actual case for why you're not going to vote him.
I know it's difficult, since he's been calling you town all day.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:56 pm

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I'll have one up tomorrow, Varsoon.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:57 pm

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RandomYoshi wrote:I'll have one up tomorrow, Varsoon.

Thank you.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:04 pm

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Just to be sure, Rem,
Your scum-team is Goku and NS, right?
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:09 pm

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Yes. But really it should go like this in terms of priority.

Lynch the far left first Goku -> NS -> Kuror0(maybe he's just bluffing)-> GuyinFreezer -> Fuzzy.

I really don't think this is scum Nacho. But I can't know for sure until day two. Which I probably won't live too. Also, just gunna leave this here to confirm that Goku is scum when I flip.

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was
, I wish you the best of luck. Oh, and creativity, you'll need it.

When I die, I convince everyone I was right. I'm creative you know. :]
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:14 pm

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Honestly, if you're town, I'd imagine that scum would just NK you anyway.
This gives us a lot assurance on who to vote.
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:15 pm

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So, Varsoon, what are you thinking?
There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
GTKAFuzzy! Come ask me questions. :D
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:21 pm

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fuzzybutternut wrote:So, Varsoon, what are you thinking?


I'm thinking that Rem's scum.
But if he isn't scum, then I'll have to pour over his reads, ISO a couple of people, and figure out what to do from there.
Clearly, Goku is the most obvious choice for a lynch if Rem flips town, but we'll see.
Regardless, Rem has claimed Vanilla Town in the past, so if his truly is, we won't be hurting town as much as mislynching a PR.

I think this is the best play to make right now, following the reasoning made in this post and the last few ones I have made.
Rem's so confident that Goku is scum, that he's willing to die for it.
I think it gives us a good place to go in Day 2, regardless of the flip.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:30 pm

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Agreed. So we lynch Rem today, and Goku tomorrow, depending on Rem's flip, of course.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:37 pm

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fuzzybutternut wrote:Agreed. So we lynch Rem today, and Goku tomorrow, depending on Rem's flip, of course.



That's my plan of action. It seems like the safest play for town to make on this D1.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:38 pm

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I honestly think I'd have to agree.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:24 pm

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Goku wrote:I've asked you repeatedly what you actually did and you haven't told us. You keep pretending there are all these slips and gambits, like it happens every couple posts, and you have yet to explain anything.


I'll answer this in case Nacho decides to lynch me. :?: Don't know why he would though. When I say ^ scum slipped or something, I'm looking for an interaction. For example look at the interaction when I told Kuror0 he scum slipped. He asked me to build a case on him, he's not bluffing, he knows he's town so no legitimate case can be built on him because he's played toward his alignment all game and only liars and scum would build a case on him. He town slipped by me accusing him of being scum on Yoshi.

@Yoshi responded positively to someone believing he was town because he WANTED someone to believe he was town. He was frustrated newbie vanilla town that just wanted someone to believe him. He completely increased his posting after that, he felt good, and this is consistent with his comment that he slowed down on posting because he just got mislynched and frustrated in another game. He's town this game. Just saying. :]

When GuyInfreezer did the reaction test, Fuzzy popped his head out and showed his alignment by empathized with now probably town Yoshi and l-4 frustration. That interaction was GOLD no scum would speak to Yoshi like that after he got put at L-1. and started posting better.

I trailed the Nacho interaction the whole game I was talking to him the second I showed up and he followed me to a TOWN conclusion not a SCUM conclusion. He's town this game because he's town hunting.

@Varsoon, when you admitted to your frustration at the Yoshi wagon building down that was so genuine no one would believe you were not town this game That was when you were confirmed town, because you admitted to your frustration, Scum get frustrated, but they frustrated in how NS got frustrated, by just discredit me right away because they're manipulative, not looking for scum.

@GuyINfreezer: I voted you and parked my vote on you to get a read on you, I argued back and forth so that I wouldn't get distracted and it worked splendidly, we were so in tune with each other that I even recognized you reaction test on Yoshi and it was brillant. I know you'd be an asset to town if you were town because of our interactions and the Survivor thread so I needed to get a read on you. Look at all that feed back I was giving you, you moved from my scum read (lying because who's a scum read for those ridiculous reasons) to one of my better town reads when you played to your win con. You were genuine the whole game and you're probably town.

Guess who didn't do so well? Still think you should kill Goku and NS but I'm good with it since we'll win because I've gotten enough of you to trust me to follow my reads afterword.

L-1 post. Told you I'd end the game for scum if I got to L-1. :mrgreen:
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:27 pm

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So yeah, my interviewing method is badass and you're just all jealous. Just can't recognize a good playstyle when you see it :(
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:30 pm

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Remembrance wrote:So yeah, my interviewing method is badass and you're just all jealous. Just can't recognize a good playstyle when you see it :(

Thank you for your reads and rationale.
I understand the purpose of the playstyle, it's just really not my cup of tea.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:41 pm

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Well, okay but it won us the game. Can you unvote me now? I can't concentrate when I'm voted you know. :P
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:47 pm

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Holy shit I was gone for like 6 hours and already 3+ pages.
Catching up.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:16 pm

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VOTE COUNT 1.13


Varsoon (0) -
fuzzybutternut (2) - kuror0, Nobody Special
Goku (2) - Remembrance, RandomYoshi
GuyInFreezer (0) -
Remembrance (3) - fuzzybutternut, GuyInFreezer, Varsoon
RandomYoshi (1) - Goku
kuror0 (0) -
Nobody Special (1) - Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8 (0) -

Not Voting:

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is Thursday, March 21st at 4:00 am PST or in
(expired on 2013-03-21 04:00:00)
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:28 pm

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Guys if I'm putting out this much effort just to live one more day as scum, I'm probably an idiot. Just vote goku. You can lynch me if it turns out he's town. Of course, he isn't though. I've made killer cases for the opposite of what most people do. I've made killer cases for why people are town, not scum. Which is pretty much the same thing as scum hunting when you've got 7 towns and 2 not towns in the game.
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:12 pm

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I just realized I made a mistake playing the way I did and I will try to refine this play style so that I don't spam post so much. I'm really sorry about the way I played this game. It was my fault. History: I got pressured in another game and it really affected me. So I pushed harder to win the game before I got lynched again. I think I'm sensitive to not being believed right now. Sorry.

VOTE: Remembrance The only reason I'm voting myself is because the game has ended. It's not anti-town because I just looked over the game a final time. And it's just pretty much factual at this point. I'll give a slight player review after the game ends. Sorry once again. I'm a newbie and I'm trying to improve my game. This time I pushed too hard and focused too hard on winning and not enough on being considerate of others. Sorry again. :(

GG town.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:47 pm

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i dont want to hammer my townbuddy :(
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:50 pm

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Well, maybe you won't have to and they'll just vote Goku Instead :). It's not like it's going to hurt them any. Either way they've won. It just depends if they want to do it in 2 game days or 3.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:56 pm

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I don't think scum wants to hammer you anyway. Scum wants this Day to end with a No-Lynch to make us not aware of that you're Town. That's why you need to be Town to hammer you.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:01 pm

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I've put them in a position where they either lynch me or goku. For the promise of victory comes from either. When Goku flips. Then NS will flip by default. If I flip, Goku then NS will flip by default. There's no lynch. Because then I'll still be alive because if they night kill me or anyone else they confirm my town read of them so they still prove me right. And when Nacho comes back he'll just auto-win it by saying I was right and I should not post so much and It was annoying.

It's simply a check-mate at this point.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:47 pm

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Yo, Rem. You know I don't think you're scum, right? Have you even been paying attention?

Take your vote off yourself. You're being ridiculous. Even if you were scum, that vote doesn't make sense. Getting lynched on purpose is strictly against your win condition, no matter what, and a lot of mods would ban you for that.
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