League of Legends (Old)

RayFrost · Post Post #18600 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:10 pm

For you all.

Brandi · Post Post #18601 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:24 pm

↑ quadz08 wrote:I don't think I'd say "if Taric isn't banned, leave or feed," but he is fucking ridiculously strong right now. Superbroken.

This. He is broken, and anyone who says otherwise is just blatantly wrong. It doesn't matter if he doesn't roll you in lane. You can kill him multiple times and be 2x as fed as him as support with your adc also fed. He can still easily come back from that.

I had a taric dc'd on my team from the start of the game as MF. I got 3 man dived in my lane bot and died several times. We were behind by a lot. Then our taric comes back and lands a couple of stuns at level 1 vs the enemies at level 8/9 (I was level 10 due to having a solo lane) ...and ends up getting higher level than their support by the end of the game and we win.

He's way too easy to play and too easy to not fuck up with. There's too much reward with too little risk, and I'm glad Riot is nerfing him in this next patch. It's not enough IMO, but it's something.

Oversoul · Post Post #18602 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:34 pm

↑ lil g wrote:Oh shit, you were teamed with one of the famous Monkeys. My mighty carry monkey was named Monkey D Jeffries, and I will never forget him.

are they a team?

Brandi · Post Post #18603 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:37 pm

↑ Xisiqomelir wrote:
↑ Fate wrote:Always max starfall.

Wave clearing wins bot lanes

Infuse-first lets you do hilarious things from bush though.

Starcall has insane level 1 damage. You wouldn't max it first, but it's better than having infuse at level 1 if you want to go for a kill. Because of the fact that you can spam it over and over again, where as infuse you'd only get to walk out, hit someone, banana them, then walk away. It doesn't do too much to them because the poke is really minimal and they can generally just sustain through it.

If they have a weak ADC like Ashe or Vayne, you can starcall them to death with not much of an issue. Someone like graves... you'd probably want to stay out of their face.

Take a look at this diamond 1 player: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23079604#profile
Yesterday he had all wins in his history with just soraka, and he's a strong advocate of starcall level 1 on soraka on the forums. (thread with a debate about it: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... ?t=3229181)
It's also been done in a tournament recently, If I recall correctly.

JDodge · Post Post #18604 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:45 pm

i'm just waiting for everyone to start running thresh/ashe bot lanes consistently and make bot lane incredibly unfun for all involved

Xisiqomelir · Post Post #18605 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:46 pm

Thanks Brandi. I'll do some playtesting (can afford to since my NA account is new).

Brandi · Post Post #18606 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:49 pm

NP I've tried it 3 times and got FB on my team every time. Though it's only because it was situations where I knew I could get away with it. Not sure if I'd do it vs. a lulu or a Janna for instance. But I've had good luck with it vs. Taric and Leona and Alistar. Also make sure to pinkward your bush.

Glork · Post Post #18607 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:50 pm

Taric Nerfs. Rank 1 stun 1.2 seconds.

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JDodge · Post Post #18608 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:52 pm

↑ Glork wrote:Taric Nerfs. Rank 1 stun 1.2 seconds. .

It's almost like they're nerfing a champion with a completely ridiculous pick rate and a completely ridiculous win rate that's presently toxic to the gamestate as a result of both!

quadz08 · Post Post #18609 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:06 pm

These are smart taric nerfs, IMO. Maybe not enough of a nerf, but they're nerfing intelligently.

Ankamius · Post Post #18610 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:17 pm

Only Rumble and Taric have absurdly high win rates in ranked games. There's a bunch of others that are kind of close, but eh.

TehBrawlGuy · Post Post #18611 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:19 pm

Shits on top and jangle tarics too much for me though.
Get mercs > no combo.

TehBrawlGuy · Post Post #18612 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 pm

Background information: I accidentally picked Garen even though we already had a Shen and our jungle. Shen was forced into support.

Spoiler: chat logs

PSA: Do not ever duo with Panzer. I went 14/2 (suicided for lulz at the nexus blowup) and still lost my series. Not really upset about it, since I start back at 88 points and one win starts another series, but dude, you could stand to get some maturity.

@Panzer: I'm not trying to start a fight, so don't reply to this, because I'm not going to reply to anything you say. I'm just telling the thread because I think the players here deserve to be warned. Frankly, you have absolutely no right to treat another human being like that, especially over something as inconsequential as a video game, and you're damn lucky you acted like that to someone as chill as I am.

@Everyone else: If you have anything to say to me, say it in a PM. I'd

really

rather not start a shitstorm, and I don't think anything I'm posting is a violation of any rules.

PJ. · Post Post #18613 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:27 pm

You're not chill, You're a selfish prick that should of dodged. Everyone here already knows what you get when you play with me, so warning is ONLY to pick i fight. Honestly I could careless.

The only reason you even got to a promo series is cause of Ankamius in the first place. I liek how you fuck me over, i get mad, and I'm the asshole, but whatever man. Either way, you're a bad player that forced shen who called top into support by randoming. I won lane regardless and then you preceeded to lose the game. So fucking what you didn't die, you let the whole team die while you got fucking kited. It's fine though, cause we have what, 25 posts of you complaining about how everyone on your team sucks and whatever, so it's really reach that you say that i should take responsibility for a mistake that i didn't even make. You should of dodged and you should of played better. You played like shit despite a good KDA and you lost your series, while costing me points, So honestly, Fuck you and enjoy silver 4 that you "didn't deserve to eb in" or whatever fucking bullshit story . I already ignored you on the league client. You're a bad that needs to be carried past low silver and doesn't even realize he's bad.

Hey everyone in this thread, i'm a toxic player. Is it news?

Hey everyone in this thread beside the 4 gold players, I'm better than you so suck my little weiner.

Brandi · Post Post #18614 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:32 pm

... You're both in the wrong for various reasons. I don't feel chat logs were necessary to give a warning. And you're completely kidding yourself if you think putting disclaimers up in an attempt to deter drama will work.

PJ. · Post Post #18615 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:37 pm

The difference is I know I'm in the wrong because honestly i shouldn't be pissed, I knew I was playing with a shitty player, no reason to get that mad. I just don't really care, because my rank is worth more than my relationship with some guy i've never met and our online reason for talking is to gain rank. He stole my rank points from me by fucking up champ select, lowerring morale pregame, and playing like shit and thinks I should of took responsibility for his mistakes, so fuck him.

Brandi · Post Post #18616 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:43 pm

The thing that bugs me the most is that TBG cares enough about his serious not to dodge but doesn't care enough to not randomly pick the wrong champion. But then goes to say not to get so upset over a video game. If it is just a game to him, he should have had no issue with dodging. Promo or no promo it WAS his mistake and no one else should have had to pay the price for it. It's not even as if it was a silver 1 promo series into Gold 5, it was a mini best out of 3 series.

Panzer you reacted in a very immature manner and said some things I really feel you shouldn't have, but you still got dicked.

PJ. · Post Post #18617 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:44 pm

↑ Brandi wrote:The thing that bugs me the most is that TBG cares enough about his serious not to dodge but doesn't care enough to not randomly pick the wrong champion. But then goes to say not to get so upset over a video game. If it is just a game to him, he should have had no issue with dodging. Promo or no promo it WAS his mistake and no one else should have had to pay the price for it. It's not even as if it was a silver 1 promo series into Gold 5, it was a mini best out of 3 series.

Panzer you reacted in a very immature manner and said some things I really feel you shouldn't have, but you still got dicked.

I can live with this honestly.

Andrius · Post Post #18618 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:52 pm

I'm going to break my exile for a moment, and forgive me if I sound like I'm complaining I just wish to be clear.

Panzer, being a "toxic player" is not an excuse to be a blatant asshat. I mean, I lost Zito for one game (which is apparently enough) and have earned graham's undying scorn for one comment (which is also apparently enough). I'm not sure how I, lil andy stevens, have managed to squeak by without earning your rage when other people have been SLAMMED for way less.

TehBrawlGuy, Panzer's *actually* a great guy. I can't remember a time when I wasn't on good terms with him. I'm not sure if its the ranked (which I don't play) or him trying to live up to team toxic but I'm sorry your experience hasn't been as great as mine. :/ Whatever it is it sure as hell isn't because I'm a great player (LOL) or even a great guy (character references include Zito, g, and LLD) or even a member of "team toxic".

I want to have fun and play LoL like we used to. I'm not saying PLAYLIKEBADDIES but back to the days where we all hummed the Indiana Jones theme song and ran around doing whatever because it was fun. Is that really too much to ask?

Ankamius · Post Post #18619 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:04 pm

Lalala

Oh, drama.

quadz08 · Post Post #18620 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:12 pm

↑ Andrius wrote:Is that really too much to ask?

yes obv

TehBrawlGuy · Post Post #18621 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:07 pm

↑ Brandi wrote:... You're both in the wrong for various reasons. I don't feel chat logs were necessary to give a warning. And you're completely kidding yourself if you think putting disclaimers up in an attempt to deter drama will work.

Didn't want it to be just a he-said-she-said sort of thing. It's entirely subjective, and you have no way of knowing I wasn't (too far) in the wrong without full context. If he has a problem with what he said being public, he shouldn't have said it. I'm not going to let someone abuse me (or anyone else) like that and get away with it, and I'm not going to bring myself down to his level and resort to things like petty namecalling and insults. I wish there were a more diplomatic solution, but he'd rather say "fuck you" until he's blue in the face than talk it out with me, and I'm not going to be spineless and roll over, so this was the only real thing left to do. Letting an overgrown schoolyard bully continue to be a bully because you're a nice guy is not a good solution.

↑ Brandi wrote:The thing that bugs me the most is that TBG cares enough about his serious not to dodge but doesn't care enough to not randomly pick the wrong champion. But then goes to say not to get so upset over a video game. If it is just a game to him, he should have had no issue with dodging. Promo or no promo it WAS his mistake and no one else should have had to pay the price for it. It's not even as if it was a silver 1 promo series into Gold 5, it was a mini best out of 3 series.

Panzer you reacted in a very immature manner and said some things I really feel you shouldn't have, but you still got dicked.

Shen support is subpar, but workable, especially in low/mid Silver.

And yeah, it is just a game, but I can only devote so much time to it. It's not like I don't care at all - I do care a little, and enough that I'm not willing to waste 2-3 hours of my time to save my team from a comp that's only less-than-stellar. If it had been like Jayce support or something blatantly awful and gamewrecking, then maybe I'd have dodged, but it wasn't. Anyone who didn't want to play would have lost 3 LP and a few minutes for dodging. That's hardly a steep price to pay, no matter how much league may be your life, and it's one I've had to pay for the team when other people trolled/messed up/whatevered. There's a fine line between generosity or taking responsibility and martyrdom, and I think asking me to give up essentially like 30 LP and 2-3 hours over an honest mistake crosses that. I'll take the fall for my own mistakes, but not when it's

literally

10x the fall someone else would have to take for it. You don't have to think the same way, but I'd appreciate not being looked down on for it. I wasn't off in another tab derping around or something, we were discussing the enemy team comp, and in doing so, I lost my train of thought and forgot that Top got taken by someone else because Shen was open, and so I took Garen. It was a simple, honest mistake, one that the three perfect strangers on our team were more understanding of than he was.

↑ Andrius wrote:
TehBrawlGuy, Panzer's *actually* a great guy. I can't remember a time when I wasn't on good terms with him. I'm not sure if its the ranked (which I don't play) or him trying to live up to team toxic but I'm sorry your experience hasn't been as great as mine. :/ Whatever it is it sure as hell isn't because I'm a great player (LOL) or even a great guy (character references include Zito, g, and LLD) or even a member of "team toxic".

I have an incredibly hard time believing any genuinely great guy would resort to repeated personal insuits over a game, but I'm glad you get along with him and thanks for your sympathy.

↑ quadz08 wrote:
↑ Andrius wrote:Is that really too much to ask?

yes obv

I am totally fine with doing whatever and having fun; all I ask is that you maintain some sense of respect and decency with me so that you don't ruin my fun. I had fun in that promo game, loss or not.

quadz08 · Post Post #18622 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:09 pm

come play 1v1s against me

I will warwick you in the face and it will be a blast

MrZepher · Post Post #18623 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:14 pm

↑ Ankamius wrote:Lalala

Oh, drama.

TehBrawlGuy · Post Post #18624 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:17 pm

↑ quadz08 wrote:come play 1v1s against me

I will warwick you in the face and it will be a blast

WW in 1v1s is insane, though. Infinity sustain if he's got mana.

Clearly, the only solution is to do a Warwick mirror match. I can't play now, but I should be free tomorrow around 7:00 PDT.