League of Legends (Old)

[MrZepher]

1v1s are stupid.

[TehBrawlGuy]

1v1s are stupid.

Eh, so are ARAMs, and I don't know anyone who doesn't enjoy ARAM from time to time.

[esuriospiritus]

I want to have fun and play LoL like we used to. I'm not saying PLAYLIKEBADDIES but back to the days where we all hummed the Indiana Jones theme song and ran around doing whatever because it was fun. Is that really too much to ask?

Yes, because it probably requires me going back to working 15-20 hours a week with no school and being virtually single.

srsly though, I don't think it's too arrogant to say I was the silly putty that helped stick various other people together. (also, frog.) It seems to me that a lot of the drama started after I didn't have time to play ~5 hours a day anymore/my priorities changed due to GIGGLEGIGGLE.

[Matias]

this is a lame post and should be ignored

[DeathRowKitty]

Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends

[Matias]

yo i suck

[PJ.]

Shen support is subpar, but workable, especially in low/mid Silver.

And yeah, it is just a game, but I can only devote so much time to it. It's not like I don't care at all - I do care a little, and enough that I'm not willing to waste 2-3 hours of my time to save my team from a comp that's only less-than-stellar. If it had been like Jayce support or something blatantly awful and gamewrecking, then maybe I'd have dodged, but it wasn't. Anyone who didn't want to play would have lost 3 LP and a few minutes for dodging. That's hardly a steep price to pay, no matter how much league may be your life, and it's one I've had to pay for the team when other people trolled/messed up/whatevered. There's a fine line between generosity or taking responsibility and martyrdom, and I think asking me to give up essentially like 30 LP and 2-3 hours over an honest mistake crosses that. I'll take the fall for my own mistakes, but not when it's literally 10x the fall someone else would have to take for it. You don't have to think the same way, but I'd appreciate not being looked down on for it. I wasn't off in another tab derping around or something, we were discussing the enemy team comp, and in doing so, I lost my train of thought and forgot that Top got taken by someone else because Shen was open, and so I took Garen. It was a simple, honest mistake, one that the three perfect strangers on our team were more understanding of than he was.

It's not 3 LP. It varies. I had a very low amount of Lp and could of been demoted for all i know. I know people who've lost 14 for dodging. Why is your time worth more than my time, when you were the one who made the mistake in the first place. Despite that I STILL won my lane, and then you fucking let me die a shit load of times by chasing either focusing the tank or chasing down the ADC and getting kited. And you stuck me with a support that Can't actually peel. Like dude, you keep saying that "you take responsibility for your own mistakes", but it's clear from the situation that you don't. Like honestly, if you woulda just said "Yeah man, my bad I fucked it up" I would of been like alright man, next time just dodge. But you pinned it on me, and insist that you played well and didn't fuck the game up from jump street. Bottom line, if you fuck up in champ select, you should take responsibility and not fuck the game up for your duo partner. Like It's not like I had 50 points and could of tossed you a bone and didn't. I didn't have the points to dodge for you and I didn't fuck it up.

Bottom line is, we were never friends. We made an argeement to win ranked games together. You fucked me in champ select then dicked me by not dodging because you didn't want to set back while saying I should of set myself back for your mistake. I'm completely in the right to be pissed at you. I could of said less harsh things, but honestly, you're a hypocritical little bitch. So my only association with you is to win ranked games and you lost me points, so yeah i'm gonna insult you.

@Matias, i didn't defriend you bro. You defriended me.

[Matias]

i suck cocks, full story at 11.

[esuriospiritus]

I can't really explain why you were suddenly not my friend otherwise.

I know this has happened to DRK before, to be fair.

[Matias]

I can't really explain why you were suddenly not my friend otherwise.

I know this has happened to DRK before, to be fair.

Under what conditions

If this is a bug or something then I retract everything I said earlier, but in my case, defriending someone over a duo ranked loss due to overall team bad play is something that pisses me off.

[esuriospiritus]

not sure but I'm inclined to blame pvp.net coding or w/e it is.

it hasn't happened to me personally... that I've noticed. But I have a lot of people on my list I played with once or twice, friended, and then never played with again sooooo

[Matias]

holy shit

well I apologize to panzer, I know what happened. I went to mute our jungler but accidentally muted him by accident momentarily and muting someone defriends them. oops

[esuriospiritus]

^ there you go. problem solved.



Group hug?

[PJ.]

I most certainly did not. We had that bad Garen (me) top, Nasus jungle, you (MF) ADC game that went to shit, you wanted to surrender because you had to go to work, I agreed after a little bit more time (denied the first one but went with the second one after I saw how badly our jungle was doing) but the rest of the team didn't. You AFKed, they reported you, I didn't, I closed out of the client. Hetzer invited you and I to a game with 2 others the next day, saw that you weren't my friend. Maybe you forgot within all of the mess and you defriend people on a random basis but I certainly don't defriend people unless they give me good reason and a bad game isn't a good reason.

I can't really explain why you were suddenly not my friend otherwise.

I Alt-f4ed and never came back to the main client until that night when I was off work. I actually never had time to defriend you, then hetzer invited me you left and told everyone I defriended you. If you look at my track record on defriending people(Neruz, TehBrawl Guy, KoC) you get a long diatribe and then i click ignore buddy. I legitimately enjoy playing with you and enjoy you as a person, and i wouldn't of defriended you intentionally. As i told you before, either you did it unintentionally(muting me or something) or it was a weird untimely glitch. I'm sorry you don't enjoy playing with me and I tried to explain to you the night it happened, but sure i'm an asshole, but I definitely let you know if i defriend you. I'm not one who does sneaky backstabby things, I'm more of a grand gesture of hate type of guy. Sorry that there was a misunderstanding and sorry you dislike playing with me. I don't feel that way about you and would enjoy playing with you again, but i'm sincerely saying what ever happened with the defriending was clearly unintentional on someone's end.

[Matias]

^ there you go. problem solved.



Group hug?

Yes

[quadz08]

Clearly, the only solution is to do a Warwick mirror match. I can't play now, but I should be free tomorrow around 7:00 PDT.

I actually lost a mirror match like a baddie. Started the wrong item.

But I did beat JD as WW vs. Karma. I was pretty convinced I was gonna get clobbered, and I think his DC leading to FB for me (at like level 15) ended up giving me the win.

[JDodge]

Clearly, the only solution is to do a Warwick mirror match. I can't play now, but I should be free tomorrow around 7:00 PDT.

I actually lost a mirror match like a baddie. Started the wrong item.

But I did beat JD as WW vs. Karma. I was pretty convinced I was gonna get clobbered, and I think his DC leading to FB for me (at like level 15) ended up giving me the win.

i also went wrong buildpath and hardrandomed in g2 when you decided that yorick is fun to play against in a 1v1 at 3 AM

[quadz08]

sorry about yorick again I didn't realize you built her wrong, what would ideal buildpath be there?

[Matias]

So I said this to Panzer in person, but the reason why I lashed out like that is because I hate passive-aggressiveness (which he never did because league client is bad). You can tell me that I'm a shitty player and "please ward this and dont be a fucking idiot" and I take an extremely small fraction of the offense that I would if the other person straight up wanted nothing to do with me, so that's that. He's a good person.

We're all friends! I'm sorry that this TBG and Panzer fight is happening but I'm not involved

[JDodge]

sorry about yorick again I didn't realize you built her wrong, what would ideal buildpath be there?

morellonomicon instead of hat and taking ignite instead of flash would have allowed me to kill you without dying, which would have allowed me to take towers, which would have allowed me to take total health pack control with the idea of killing you once every ignite cd, which would have allowed me to continue to snowball the game and itemize large amounts of MR upon death to counter your AP stacking

[JDodge]

also the number of times you blew flash for health pack control was silly because flash was far more important for sticking to me once i had spirit bond levels (had i mantra-sb'd you i could have just walked away from you at any point)

playing current karma in a 1v1 involves sticking at as low of health as much as you can for as long as you can and then taking advantage of opponent all-in attempts while waveclearing and avoiding raw poke (go too low, die, go too high, lose passive power and remove the major threat of playing karma which is being the best bait in the game); because of this, she's very very all-in and i lack the mechanical skill at this time of night to play her properly in such a situation (i also don't really play many tanky APs nowadays like i used to, favoring assassins in general - my original plan was to pick something to blow you the fuck up like diana and i think i could have gotten away with that if i'd have ended it early, karma doesn't output enough raw damage - this means that i'm used to going in and killing shit lately instead of teetering on the brink waiting for an idiot to dive me)

tl;dr more gg more skill

[DeathRowKitty]

I can't really explain why you were suddenly not my friend otherwise.

I know this has happened to DRK before, to be fair.

Under what conditions

No idea. I've had it happen to the same few people more than once, so it's probably something specific to certain people/names/whatever and not a common general bug. (Yes, I'm sure I didn't accidentally mute/ignore/etc)

[Oman]

holy shit

well I apologize to panzer, I know what happened. I went to mute our jungler but accidentally muted him by accident momentarily and muting someone defriends them. oops

Acting like an adult. Rare in LoL, and freaking awesome.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Shen support is subpar, but workable, especially in low/mid Silver.

And yeah, it is just a game, but I can only devote so much time to it. It's not like I don't care at all - I do care a little, and enough that I'm not willing to waste 2-3 hours of my time to save my team from a comp that's only less-than-stellar. If it had been like Jayce support or something blatantly awful and gamewrecking, then maybe I'd have dodged, but it wasn't. Anyone who didn't want to play would have lost 3 LP and a few minutes for dodging. That's hardly a steep price to pay, no matter how much league may be your life, and it's one I've had to pay for the team when other people trolled/messed up/whatevered. There's a fine line between generosity or taking responsibility and martyrdom, and I think asking me to give up essentially like 30 LP and 2-3 hours over an honest mistake crosses that. I'll take the fall for my own mistakes, but not when it's literally 10x the fall someone else would have to take for it. You don't have to think the same way, but I'd appreciate not being looked down on for it. I wasn't off in another tab derping around or something, we were discussing the enemy team comp, and in doing so, I lost my train of thought and forgot that Top got taken by someone else because Shen was open, and so I took Garen. It was a simple, honest mistake, one that the three perfect strangers on our team were more understanding of than he was.

It's not 3 LP. It varies. I had a very low amount of Lp and could of been demoted for all i know. I know people who've lost 14 for dodging. Why is your time worth more than my time, when you were the one who made the mistake in the first place. Despite that I STILL won my lane, and then you fucking let me die a shit load of times by chasing either focusing the tank or chasing down the ADC and getting kited. And you stuck me with a support that Can't actually peel. Like dude, you keep saying that "you take responsibility for your own mistakes", but it's clear from the situation that you don't. Like honestly, if you woulda just said "Yeah man, my bad I fucked it up" I would of been like alright man, next time just dodge. But you pinned it on me, and insist that you played well and didn't fuck the game up from jump street. Bottom line, if you fuck up in champ select, you should take responsibility and not fuck the game up for your duo partner. Like It's not like I had 50 points and could of tossed you a bone and didn't. I didn't have the points to dodge for you and I didn't fuck it up.

Bottom line is, we were never friends. We made an argeement to win ranked games together. You fucked me in champ select then dicked me by not dodging because you didn't want to set back while saying I should of set myself back for your mistake. I'm completely in the right to be pissed at you. I could of said less harsh things, but honestly, you're a hypocritical little bitch. So my only association with you is to win ranked games and you lost me points, so yeah i'm gonna insult you.

@Matias, i didn't defriend you bro. You defriended me.

It's exactly 3 LP unless you've already dodged that day, and dodging alone can't demote you. You have to lose at 0 LP to be demoted.

I did apologize for it in champ select and would have done so again after the game had I not gotten instantly cursed out and told twice that you were glad I had lost my series. You cannot possibly expect me to have the slightest bit of compassion for you after that.

I did focus Xin in early fights and even ult killed him twice. I can't really peel him that well after he's already charged in and on top of you. Even when I did kill him, you got blown up by Fiora while the rest of the team got wrecked by Draven because he had zero pressure on him. (how do you think Draven got his kills?) Did you not notice the enemy team saying I had carried you?

You could also stand to realize that you make mistakes too. You knew in champ select that team had little peel, and so what did you build? BT > Zephyr (because tenacity helps so much against knockups and fiora ults) > IE. No BotRK, no GA, no Mallet, no Warmogs or Randuins, (and yes you can build both of those on ADCs) just more and more AD. Instead of opening up fights with your ult to do damage from a distance, half the fights you left it unused. 10 deaths is not entirely the team's fault. nor will it ever be.

Again, there's a big difference between 3 LP and 5 minutes and 30 LP and 3 hours. I don't think it's terribly out of line to ask someone to take the former loss so that I don't have to take the latter. I'd have totally done it for you or anyone else I was duo with. As far as hypocrisy, you accuse me of being selfish because you didn't want to take the most minuscule loss. It's three points! Three! It's not like I asked you to fuck up your own series or something.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Stop trying to bring logic into it, TBG. a) it's Panzer, and b) the circlejerk is on his side so at best you'll get "well you were both wrong" like you already did.