Open 480 - C9++ Game Over!

Cheery Dog · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:02 am

Youknow your own alignment though, which if town means you're conftown to yourself, but since you're saying that's not the case, I guess you are getting apozzle to make a case on you in hopes he does a bad job.

VOTE: Beli

ISO · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:18 am

I'm going to go ahead and declare a townread on Belisarius.

It's not that I understand his motivation for doing what he's doing; it's that i believe that the motivation exists, and I don't think he'd be doing what he's doing as scum.

ISO · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:19 am

Like, i don't think the "i'm going to show that even the CLEAR can't make a case on me" motivation is likely. I just don't think he'd be that ballsy as scum, in a way.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:31 am

I'm hard-resetting, this time without walls

Yay?

Human Destroyer · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:34 am

↑ SafetyDance wrote:HD deciding to Play-by-Play day one supports GM's theory he's third paty, regardless of it tying him to reads later its not helping any play this day, right now. So hopefully that gets done away with (or a.s.a.p)

Which reminds me of this.

Not sure what the hell this has to do with me being SK.

Like, at all.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:40 am

↑ Gammagooey wrote:Apozzle (5) ac1983fan, Human Destroyer, Cheery Dog, Belisarius, SafetyDance

I'm assuming there's scum on this wagon.

It isn't me, and I have a townread on ac1983fan. That leaves Cheery (previously town), Beli (previously null-scum), and Safety (previously scum).

Hmmmm.

I'd wager one of {Belisarius, SafetyDance} is scum, but not both.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:44 am

↑ Gammagooey wrote:
goodmorning
(7)
Cub Diagoro
, Zaicon, Edosurist,
Apozzle
, Nobody Special, Cheery Dog, implosion

I find it interesting that both Belisarius and SafetyDance had their votes off this lynch, but not Apozzle.

This looks like they want to avoid being on two town wagons.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SafetyDance for now.

I'll reread the other 5, but I'm sure there's at least one scum in them.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:49 am

↑ Zaicon wrote:
↑ ac1983fan wrote:Zaicon: Could you elaborate on what you "don't like" about POPP's reaction to SD? That's pretty fookin' vague.

I don't like the fact that pieceofpecanpie took the opportunity to accuse SafetyDance of 'jumping off of Nobody Special' when SafetyDance voted for pieceofpecanpie. All he bases that on was the fact that SafetyDance changed his vote from a semi-lurker to pieceofpecanpie. I don't know why he assumes that means SafetyDance's vote for Nobody Special was "meaningless". I also don't know why that's worthy of a vote (nor his later claim of implosion being SafetyDance's partner, which just seems like setting up lynches at this point).

I don't like this, because I read POPP's reasons for voting Safety and it's actually because Safety's reasons for voting POPP are really damn weak. So this is a combination of a misrep and a chainsaw defense.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:53 am

This post is also fency about a lot of people.

Okay, so Zaicon is still probably scum too.

ac1983fan · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:22 am

↑ Belisarius wrote:
↑ Apozzle wrote:
Oh, you want to see if I
can
. Why would that be? Because you need the confirmed town to fail to do so in order to lend you credibility?

3 reasons. Let's see if you can figure out what they are.

Belisarius what the hell are you doing.

ISO · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:23 am

HD wrote:I find it interesting that both Belisarius and SafetyDance had their votes off this lynch, but not Apozzle.

This looks like they want to avoid being on two town wagons.

Think about this for a second - yes, that is one possible motivation: that they didn't want to be on two town wagons. Another possible motivation is simply that they thought Apozzle was scum and didn't think that goodmorning was scum.

Do you have good reason, other than

pre-existing

reads on belisarius and safetydance, to attribute the second motivation rather than the first?

Human Destroyer · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:26 am

I've already explained why; I think there was one (probably only one) scum on the Apozzle wagon, and those two both happened to be on the lynch.

I don't think Cheery Dog is scum because he was on both of the wagons and that'd look pretty bad in vote analysis later on but I'm going to look at him anyway.

I have a townread on ac.

Therefore, one of the two is scum.

It's actually very simple PoE.

ac1983fan · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:31 am

VOTE: edosurist
Nothing I've seen from him today has really changed what I've thought about him.
I still think Beli is town but i think he's being completely ridiculous. Maybe upon reread I'll swing back too seeing him as scum...Dunno, his behavior really seems to go to both extremes a lot of the time

Human Destroyer · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:33 am

↑ ac1983fan wrote:VOTE: edosurist
Nothing I've seen from him today has really changed what I've thought about him.
I still think Beli is town but i think he's being completely ridiculous. Maybe upon reread I'll swing back too seeing him as scum...Dunno, his behavior really seems to go to both extremes a lot of the time

Do you think a Safety/Edosurist team is anywhere near likely?

ac1983fan · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:37 am

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:
↑ ac1983fan wrote:VOTE: edosurist
Nothing I've seen from him today has really changed what I've thought about him.
I still think Beli is town but i think he's being completely ridiculous. Maybe upon reread I'll swing back too seeing him as scum...Dunno, his behavior really seems to go to both extremes a lot of the time

Do you think a Safety/Edosurist team is anywhere near likely?

Honestly I can barely understand half of Safety's posts; I'm not sure why. I need to reread him. So it's possible but I don't have any read on him at this time.

Nobody Special · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:35 pm

Vote: ac1983fan

ISO · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:47 pm

HD wrote:I've already explained why; I think there was one (probably only one) scum on the Apozzle wagon, and those two both happened to be on the lynch.

Why was there one scum on the Apozzle wagon?

↑ Nobody Special wrote:
Vote: ac1983fan

Human Destroyer · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:52 pm

Because he's now pseudo-confirmed Town?

What, you think there isn't a single scum on there, or do you think there are more?

ISO · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:02 pm

I think the best position here is "I don't know." Just because there was a significant wagon on town, does not necessitate there being scum on that wagon, nor does it necessitate there being only one.

ac1983fan · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:00 pm

↑ implosion wrote:

↑ Nobody Special wrote:
Vote: ac1983fan

Hold up
He's voting me not you
Who gave you permission to sassily react to NS's vote on me?

Seriously though NS could you give some reasoning? Or is it the same as previous?

Gammagooey · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:12 pm

Votecount #16

Belisarius (3) Edosurist, Apozzle, Cheery Dog
Edosurist (3) Zaicon, implosion, ac1983fan
Cheery Dog (2) Belisarius, SafetyDance
SafetyDance (2) pieceofpecanpie, Human Destroyer
ac1983fan (1) Nobody Special
implosion (0)
pieceofpecanpie (0)
Apozzle (0)
Nobody Special (0)
Zaicon (0)
Human Destroyer(0)
Not Voting: Nobody!

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline: March 26th 9:00pm EST

Edosurist · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:37 pm

Hi, I haven't forgotten about you all. Busy weekend, but I'll post tomorrow or Wednesday.

SafetyDance · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:26 am

Prod dodge till later tonight, hopefully.

Belisarius · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:47 am

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:Because he's now pseudo-confirmed Town?

What the hell do you mean

pseudo

? Cub claimed Mason with Apozzle. Cub flipped Mason. There's no pseudo to it, Apozzle is confirmed town.

Zaicon · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:55 am

↑ pieceofpecanpie wrote:Scum baiting Apozzle to give out his reads so they can sheep a conf-town.

Don't you tell them what you think Apozzle!

Not until towards days end at least.

Do you really think it is in the best interests of town to not have a(n confirmed) town not share what he thinks?

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:I'm hard-resetting, this time without walls

Yay?

I... what? What is the point of you doing your page-by-page analysis (without actual explanations), only to "hard-reset" and change your reads (on some people)?

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:I'm assuming there's scum on this wagon.

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:I've already explained why; I think there was one (probably only one) scum on the Apozzle wagon

Where did this assumption come from?

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:and I have a townread on ac1983fan.

Care to explain?

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:I find it interesting that both Belisarius and SafetyDance had their votes off this lynch, but not Apozzle.

This looks like they want to avoid being on two town wagons.

Will you explain this further?

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:I don't like this, because I read POPP's reasons for voting Safety and it's actually because Safety's reasons for voting POPP are really damn weak. So this is a combination of a misrep and a chainsaw defense.

That's not his reasoning/conclusion in Post 110, which was where my claim came from. I also agreed that SD's reasons for voting PoPP were weak, but I also explained my stance on that as well.

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:This post is also fency about a lot of people.

I'm sorry I didn't have a particularly strong read on anyone?