Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Jake from State Farm]

IFM replaces BrightEyeWhateverHisNameIs

[Keybladewielder]

WTF? you have to Unvote first. Why am I scummy here?

Give me 2 reasons.

You're over reacting.
VOTE: KeyBlade


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I agree that Fish replacing out makes him look like newb scum caving under pressure.
I support his waggon.

Gut scum read on Xeg atm.

If you support the wagon then why aren't you jumping on it.

[Ms Marangal]

I just... ugh

I'm starting to think KBW's play is conf. scum play in my eyes but w/e

KBW got super jumpy as fuck when SD moved his vote on him, Scum being jumpy?

[IFM]

Ok, just finished reading through the thread and I can definitely see why you guys would want to lynch my slot. With that being said their could be a host of other reason's why Fish would sub out and being noob scum definitely isn't the case in this situation. I'd like you guys to step back and consider that you can't make a meta-read off his scum play and before he asked to be subbed you thought he was more a derp than anything else. Personally, I think he didn't know how to respond to pressure and choose instead to sub out instead of jeopardizing the town's chances. It has already been established that he didn't know how to play the game that well, so jumping to considering my slot scum based on that is a bit of a stretch imo.

Key immediately asking for reasons when he was voted seems extremely scummy too me. In my experience when people do that they are scum, who think they haven't given any reason to be voted. That causes them to immediately ask for the reason to the vote instead of pushing it off like a town alligned person would do.

As a result:

UNVOTE: whoever fish voted

VOTE: Keybladewielder

[Bacde]

^^town

[Keybladewielder]

I'm asking because you have failed to supply reasons to vote for me.

[Ms Marangal]

it's not the fact that you asked, it's how you had asked, you had Practically jumped when he called you out as scum. as town, there really isn't any reason to do such a thing.

[Lurker]

Sorry Lurker, you'll have to wait because that is horrible, opportunistic scumminess that can't be ignored.

Vote: Keybladewielder

I'll bide my time.

It's what lurkers do.

[Lurker]

Side note: I really don't like how in #41 Safety doesn't vote me, notices my behavior, then votes for me WITH THE EXACT SAME REASONING. I don't know why he waited, but it is nothing in and of itself.

Keyblade is acting pretty badly.

He gets into a breif flame war as soon as he is in the game, Talks about ongoing games, Continues this until page 5, where he votes for someone with a replacement, Then IMMEDIATLEY backslides and wails "why are you lynching meeee", and then tries to get Safety onto another wagon, following by saying there is no reasoning for his wagon, even though he stated "You're overreacting", which at this stage of the game is more then sufficient to warrant a vote.

VOTE: Keybladeweilder

[Jake from State Farm]

Vote Count 1.03
HadMatter -
Revenus -
Hiraki - Bacde (L-6)
Ms Marangal - Revenus (L-6)
Doctor Zoidberg MD -
Bacde -
Lurker - Kashoodles (L-6)
absta101 -
SafetyDance -
Kashoodles -
Xegarus -

Keybladeweilder -SafetyDance, absta, IFM, Lurker (L-3)
IFM - Doctor Zoidberg MD, Xegarus, Hiraki, keybladewielder (L-3)

Not Voting: HadMatter, Ms Marangal

I am human and can make mistakes, if you see an error with the vote count please let me know

[Revenus]

Key immediately asking for reasons when he was voted seems extremely scummy too me. In my experience when people do that they are scum, who think they haven't given any reason to be voted. That causes them to immediately ask for the reason to the vote instead of pushing it off like a town alligned person would do.

Not necessarily true. In some cases, town will react this way as well
aka "What the hell is this dude voting me for without a reason?"

However, in this case, given that KBW himself started off calling me scummy...with 0 reason, it's pretty hypocritical of him to now be screaming bloody murder when someone votes him.

Additionally, his jump onto BEF was opportunistic as fuck.

Vote:KBW

My reason? You're being you.

[kashoodles]

Side note: I really don't like how in #41 Safety doesn't vote me, notices my behavior, then votes for me WITH THE EXACT SAME REASONING. I don't know why he waited, but it is nothing in and of itself.

Keyblade is acting pretty badly.

He gets into a breif flame war as soon as he is in the game, Talks about ongoing games, Continues this until page 5, where he votes for someone with a replacement, Then IMMEDIATLEY backslides and wails "why are you lynching meeee", and then tries to get Safety onto another wagon, following by saying there is no reasoning for his wagon, even though he stated "You're overreacting", which at this stage of the game is more then sufficient to warrant a vote.

VOTE: Keybladeweilder

Nice of you to join us.

Posting more substantive post shortly.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Lurker is town.

-DGB

[Keybladewielder]

Rev, now you are bandwagoning because you want to get heat off yourself. I'm guessing you and IFM are part of the mafia.


I don't give a crap if IFM is my neighbor, he's my vote.

[Ms Marangal]

omg just.. just no KBW

you're being anti-town, but I don't think you are being scummy... if that makes sense. you are making wild assumptions on IFM's vote on you, and it sounds like a major misrep

[Keybladewielder]

You realize I'm about to freaking ragequit.

I'm not trying to be anti town, that's just vow they are interpreting it.

[Ms Marangal]

they are interpreting it like that, and I'm interpreting it like that because that's how you are coming off to be. if you actually backed up your attacks with reasons, you wouldn't be in this position. also, that AtE isn't going to help you

[Keybladewielder]

WTH is an AtE

[Ms Marangal]

Appeal to Emotion

[kashoodles]

Shit you dudez.

Do you care for my answer to this question? You haven't pushed it or mentioned that I still haven't answered it.

It was a rhetorical question.

What were you expecting scum-absta would do in response to your pressure vote?

Nothing particular. Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.

Reaction test-y - scummy, especially you admit to not know what absta would do. So you can twist it to how you want?

The fact that I've been watching your games and live been an idiot in every one of them is incredibly bad for you

I know a bunch of people already commented on this, what kind of bullshit reason is this?

Prod doge.

If anyone's being an idiot, admitting to being an idiot, then they should be lynched in an instant on day one.

Also a bullshit reason. Rev hadn't been the most town ever, but he was being attacked by someone constantly calling him an idiot.

Rev, I fail to see your logic here. You say that calling you scummy and listing reasons for said accusation, that puts me in a scum position. How?

What is your logic? You say you have proof of his scumminess yet the only thing you are doing is calling him an idiot/scum. Specific posts? Specific reasons?

Also, you need to calm down. I won't call you a Idiot anymore, BUT that doesn't change my opinion. Post some real content, and then well see.

I'm voting you because the Village Idiots get lynched first for being dumb.

It's happened to me a thousand times. So don't get all pissy with me over a name.

This is the Internet dude, you can't take stuff seriously.

What the hell is this? Can you please explain this, or even what Rev was doing being dumb enough for you to go on this tirade?

No. I'm voting you because you are you, and as such are sounding scummy as crap.

I'm not providing your games because they are both going on right now.

Proof of scumminess? Outside of "stupidity?"

Nothing particular. Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.

You are so scum.

How so?

Mind if i ask a newbie question?
In a game with 13 players, how many scum would you expect?

Town-ish, though could be faking. Could flip either way.

Nothing particular. Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.

You are so scum.

How so?

Mind if i ask a newbie question?
In a game with 13 players, how many scum would you expect?

3 is the norm

why is it so important for you to pretend to be newbie-town?

I'm inclined to disagree that this is pretending until we've played more. Seems like you're just trying to find a reason to point fingers.

Requesting a replacement?
UNVOTE: Revenus

VOTE: BrightEyedFish
Seems fishy to me (sorry bad pun)

WTF? you have to Unvote first. Why am I scummy here?

Give me 2 reasons.

Again, others got to you about this, but you're literally jumping from convenient bandwagon to convenient bandwagon. You give no reasoning for your votes. You claim to have proof of scumhunting yet have not provided it. You're getting super defensive on votes from you.

I just... ugh

I'm starting to think KBW's play is conf. scum play in my eyes but w/e

KBW got super jumpy as fuck when SD moved his vote on him, Scum being jumpy?

You've been kind of slipping through this game. What are your thoughts of people outside of bandwagons/people under the spotlight?

Ok, just finished reading through the thread and I can definitely see why you guys would want to lynch my slot. With that being said their could be a host of other reason's why Fish would sub out and being noob scum definitely isn't the case in this situation. I'd like you guys to step back and consider that you can't make a meta-read off his scum play and before he asked to be subbed you thought he was more a derp than anything else. Personally, I think he didn't know how to respond to pressure and choose instead to sub out instead of jeopardizing the town's chances. It has already been established that he didn't know how to play the game that well, so jumping to considering my slot scum based on that is a bit of a stretch imo.

Key immediately asking for reasons when he was voted seems extremely scummy too me. In my experience when people do that they are scum, who think they haven't given any reason to be voted. That causes them to immediately ask for the reason to the vote instead of pushing it off like a town alligned person would do.

As a result:

UNVOTE: whoever fish voted

Side note: I really don't like how in #41 Safety doesn't vote me, notices my behavior, then votes for me WITH THE EXACT SAME REASONING. I don't know why he waited, but it is nothing in and of itself.

Keyblade is acting pretty badly.

He gets into a breif flame war as soon as he is in the game, Talks about ongoing games, Continues this until page 5, where he votes for someone with a replacement, Then IMMEDIATLEY backslides and wails "why are you lynching meeee", and then tries to get Safety onto another wagon, following by saying there is no reasoning for his wagon, even though he stated "You're overreacting", which at this stage of the game is more then sufficient to warrant a vote.

VOTE: Keybladeweilder

VOTE: Keybladewielder

I don't know if I particularly like the beginning of your intro - it feels a bit like pandering and dissociating from any previous scummy actions.

Though Keyblade has been reacting pretty badly, it's a convenient wagon to go off of as a replacement.

Overall, null read for me - could also be genuine town reads.

I don't give a crap if IFM is my neighbor, he's my vote.

Why would you out this info? There was absolutely no reason for you to. Did the e provide you any info that made you think this?

On a side note, I had to look it up on Wiki and I don't really understand this role. So it's just two people who talk in a separate chat but can be town/maf or town/town?

You realize I'm about to freaking ragequit.

I'm not trying to be anti town, that's just vow they are interpreting it.

Okay, look. You have provided nothing but namecalling and jumping on bandwagons. Can you give us something to go off of? I don't know how we can not interpret it as anti-town. You're being childish. Everything outside of the past couple posts you come off as scummy. Your jumping between bandwagons and bullshit reasons for voting Rev are scummy. Your rage actually makes me think you're super frustrated townie or scum playing townie being frustrated about not being called townie for it. Can you give reasoning for your votes on Rev that aren't "he's stupid"? Why did you switch from Rev to BEF/IFM so easily?

[Revenus]

Rev, now you are bandwagoning because you want to get heat off yourself. I'm guessing you and IFM are part of the mafia.


I don't give a crap if IFM is my neighbor, he's my vote.

Um, what heat?

[Keybladewielder]

Get this through your obviously thick skull:

I DON'T LIKE REV.

Now, I can deal with his bullshit for another day to eliminate the Fish guy, but jeez.

Pedit: You know what I'm talking about, rev. You know.

[Revenus]

Why would you out this info? There was absolutely no reason for you to. Did the e provide you any info that made you think this?

Neighborizing can be a pretty powerful tool if you're sure both of you are town, because then you can wield it like a masonry, but if they don't have a recruiter then it's a bit less useful now that it's outed.

I also question why KBW jumped off my bandwagon so eagerly to go to his neighbor's.

Oh this is why

It's on this page.

Okay I think maybe I misunderstood your post.

To me it looks like you are attacking Revenus for being a VI, and then defending your accusations by saying "I said you were scummy and gave the reasons"

except that's literally spot on what he's doing

from my skimmings it's basically keyblade doesn't like revenus for being a VI (seriously, what the fuck? grow up--and that's coming from me)

more douchey than scummy

As soon as he senses heat for his actions towards me, he switches wagons.


Pedit: Oh, talking about current games again are we? For someone who likes to call other people 'stupid', you sure are doing really fucking stupid things yourself.

[Keybladewielder]

No, I was not referring to a current game, I was referring to how much I despise you.

[IFM]

Wow why was it necessary to mention the neighborhood?

Well now that Key outed the neighborhood thing I might as well explain it. Basically we can talk during pre-game or during nights. It gives no promise of alignment and when I checked the only message was a fluff one from fish.

Now ever since I made my first post Key has been acting extremely childish. I wouldn't say this is 100% scummy, but extremely anti-town and hasn't been backed up by any major contributions. He also seems to be locked in on Rev and I, but really hasn't given any substantial reason for it. I mean seriously, voting someone because you despise them is absolutely awful play and unless he mans up and actually starts contributing I think we should probably vote him.