Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Ms Marangal]

Get this through your obviously thick skull:

I DON'T LIKE REV.

Now, I can deal with his bullshit for another day to eliminate the Fish guy, but jeez.

Pedit: You know what I'm talking about, rev. You know.

so... your main reason for voting Rev is because you don't like him?

[Revenus]

No, I was not referring to a current game, I was referring to how much I despise you.

Really? You came in, called me VI, and now are saying you hate me.


At a certain point you said I was scummy, and that you had provided justification. You still haven't

Now we know why; you arbitrarily picked someone to bully and it's not working. I"m thinking the people in this game aren't as stupid as you were hoping they would be.

[Revenus]

Additionally, KWB has now ruined any crediblity he has in coming after me; I really doubt he will "townread" me; refer to my earlier posts about picking someone to call scum first, then finding a case. Guess what? He can't even follow through on the second part; he's just calling me scum out of...hatred? I have no idea what I did this game to set him off.


I really have no idea why town would have any incentive to act in the way he has. (which is now coming out due to people calling him on his shit)

[Keybladewielder]

I don't despise you as a person, just as a player.

[Revenus]

Why?

You still haven't put any reason forward.

[absta101]

If Key were to flip scum, IFM would be conf town. Either one of them are good lynches. BEF (IFM) was playing differently to his newbie game, as I said earlier, so his slot could still be scum as well.

Does anyone know in what kind of games both the neighbourhood players would be town?
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@Xeg - I'm not seeing much from you. Are you still voting the odd players only or do you have an opinion on who is scum yet?

[absta101]

@Rev

Why?

You still haven't put any reason forward.

Does it matter? IMO, she's probably lying/exaggerating. Why would she replace into a game with you in it?

@KeyBlade

- You can answer that. ^

[Xegarus]

why is it so important for you to pretend to be newbie-town?

Who's pretending?

Vote: Keybladewielder

VOTE: KeyBlade

Hmm, the two people voting for me vote for the same person in quick succession.

Gut scum read on Xeg atm.

Why is that?

So you can twist it to how you want?

I could have, but i didnt. Did i?

@Xeg - I'm not seeing much from you.

You've seen even less from Safety or Lurker, why only question me?

Are you still voting the odd players only or do you have an opinion on who is scum yet?

To be completely honest, i dont have any solid reads at the moment. Slightly intimidated by the size of this game.

I agree with Hiraki that fish may have rage quited as scum so my vote is staying on his replacement. But would like to hear more from IFM before calling him scum or not.
Keyblade seems to be trying too hard, but with the attention he is getting and the pressure on him, it looks understandable to me.
I dont like the fact that he's getting a little too emotional.

[Revenus]

That was such a bad post xegarus.


Is it that hard to pay attention to what is going on in the game?

[Xegarus]

Is it that hard to pay attention to what is going on in the game?

Its more of a combination of not having as much free time and it being a bigger game than i am used to.

[Jake from State Farm]

RachMarie replaces HadMatter. I really hope nobody else replaces out.

[absta101]

Quick reply:

Is it that hard to pay attention to what is going on in the game?

Its more of a combination of not having as much free time and it being a bigger game than i am used to.

Okay, now you're a strong scum read. Using the 'noob card' like this is something I've done before as scum.

If I wasn't voting Keyblade I'd be voting you.

[Xegarus]

Quick reply:

Is it that hard to pay attention to what is going on in the game?

Its more of a combination of not having as much free time and it being a bigger game than i am used to.

Okay, now you're a strong scum read. Using the 'noob card' like this is something I've done before as scum.

If I wasn't voting Keyblade I'd be voting you.

.........i used the 'noob card'?
Where?
It certainly isn't in the quote.
And why not vote for me if i am a strong scum read? Your reason for voting Keyblade is pretty shit. All you have said about it is 'over reacting'.
VOTE: absta
Stop grasping for straws.

[Revenus]

@Xegarus

And why not vote for me if i am a strong scum read? Your reason for voting Keyblade is pretty shit. All you have said about it is 'over reacting'.

Have you not seen his behavior this game?


I think the very fact that you are calling someone's reason voting for one of the more anti-town players I've ever seen 'shit', speaks to me that you've completely ignored what KBW has said so far.

Let me ask you this; go back and iso him and tell me if you don't see him playing at least somewhat scummy.


Furthermore, other players besides absta have called KBW out on this, yet you're only going after absta for it. It screams OMGUS to me, and not the towny kind either.

[Revenus]

To Xegarus, cont.
I also REALLY dislike that you're excusing and admitting the fact that you aren't really reading the game. Don't make judgements on other people's reactions when you haven't even looked closely at what they're reacting to.

Additionally, you have been playing the noob card; you asked how many scum people think there are in a game of 13.
If you want to play the noob card, don't deny playing it when someone else calls you out for it.

Serious

FOS

at

Xegarus

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

@ Keyblade

Don't get upset at Revenus, he's scum, he's just playing to his wincon. I know YOU're town, and HE's not.

Xegarus IS using the nopb card: "it being a bigger game than i am used to."

@ absta - I just finished a game where there was a neighborhood that started with two townies.

[absta101]

Quick reply:
@Doctor - What was the setup?

[kashoodles]

Get this through your obviously thick skull:

I DON'T LIKE REV.

Now, I can deal with his bullshit for another day to eliminate the Fish guy, but jeez.

Pedit: You know what I'm talking about, rev. You know.

Seriously, WHAT IS YOUR REASONING? You seem to be so fucking angry yet have literally zero reasoning for why you are so honed in on Rev. There were already some cases on Rev before you entered and started the whole VI thing - what, do you agree with them? Do you have outside reasoning? Are you just plain bitter because he lost a game for you in a different game? You're not saying a damn thing and you're wondering why people want to vote you? Because you're playing incredibly shitty and getting defensive about how shitty you are playing and continue to get angry while giving nothing at all!

I still feel Lurker is coasting by, comfortably latching on to the Keyblade wagon here because Key's getting the most heat for playing like an idiot. I don't think we should let up on his posts just because he's in agreement with most of town. Lurker, what do you think about anyone else in the game outside of the biggest wagon/case?

I also think it's interesting he pops back in right now, when Keyblade is at the peak of his wagon.

No, I was not referring to a current game, I was referring to how much I despise you.

Wow why was it necessary to mention the neighborhood?

Well now that Key outed the neighborhood thing I might as well explain it. Basically we can talk during pre-game or during nights. It gives no promise of alignment and when I checked the only message was a fluff one from fish.

Now ever since I made my first post Key has been acting extremely childish. I wouldn't say this is 100% scummy, but extremely anti-town and hasn't been backed up by any major contributions. He also seems to be locked in on Rev and I, but really hasn't given any substantial reason for it. I mean seriously, voting someone because you despise them is absolutely awful play and unless he mans up and actually starts contributing I think we should probably vote him.

Keyblade

, why did you out?

I don't despise you as a person, just as a player.

Reason? Apparently, Rev does not know why, like you say.

@Rev

Why?

You still haven't put any reason forward.

Does it matter? IMO, she's probably lying/exaggerating. Why would she replace into a game with you in it?

@KeyBlade

- You can answer that. ^

Keyblade didn't replace into this game.

So you can twist it to how you want?

I could have, but i didnt. Did i?

To be completely honest, i dont have any solid reads at the moment. Slightly intimidated by the size of this game.

I agree with Hiraki that fish may have rage quited as scum so my vote is staying on his replacement. But would like to hear more from IFM before calling him scum or not.
Keyblade seems to be trying too hard, but with the attention he is getting and the pressure on him, it looks understandable to me.
I dont like the fact that he's getting a little too emotional.

You didn't twist it how you wanted to because absta questioned your lack of questioning him and you admitted it was for reaction test reasons, yet say that there was a null reaction.

I have no idea why you say voting for Keyblade is a bad idea. This screams scummy to me. Have you seen his play at all? He has given zero explanation. What is your defense again for him? That he's trying "too hard"? In what way? He literally only says, "Rev is an idiot! He's also scummy! Oh, replacement vote. Why are you voting me? I'm so mad!"

His posts leading up to his bandwagon/now:
#103, #104, #108, #120, #122, semi-reasonable #126, #130, no reason to out but outs anyway? #138, #140 the only not super scummy post because he gets frustrated. Though this could also be a scum acting village and it backfiring.

VOTE: Xegarus

So Xeg, why are you defending him so much when he has literally no case on anyone else/his own playing?

Similarly, MM, why are you so keen to defend him as well?

Quick reply:

Is it that hard to pay attention to what is going on in the game?

Its more of a combination of not having as much free time and it being a bigger game than i am used to.

Okay, now you're a strong scum read. Using the 'noob card' like this is something I've done before as scum.

If I wasn't voting Keyblade I'd be voting you.

.........i used the 'noob card'?
Where?
It certainly isn't in the quote.
And why not vote for me if i am a strong scum read? Your reason for voting Keyblade is pretty shit. All you have said about it is 'over reacting'.
VOTE: absta
Stop grasping for straws.

Again, how can you say absta's reasoning is shit? It's pretty apparent. And you're using the noob card by saying that the game is too big for you to comment on, therefore you are justified in not commnenting.


P-edit:
Zoidberg, why are you also so defensive on Key as well when he has not given any content?

[Revenus]

@ Keyblade

Don't get upset at Revenus, he's scum, he's just playing to his wincon. I know YOU're town, and HE's not.

Xegarus IS using the nopb card: "it being a bigger game than i am used to."

@ absta - I just finished a game where there was a neighborhood that started with two townies.

good case i'd love to hear more


love

Revenus

[Revenus]

Also;

I have a really strong townread on kash right now, mostly because he's thinking the exact things I've been thinking (but perhaps a bit more eloquently, also he has the advantage of looking at it from a more 'neutral' point of view).

[Xegarus]

Have you not seen his behavior this game?


I think the very fact that you are calling someone's reason voting for one of the more anti-town players I've ever seen 'shit', speaks to me that you've completely ignored what KBW has said so far.

Absta's reason for voting WAS shit. Especially if he's going to say i'm a strong scum read.
I have no problem with someone voting for someone anti town. I do have a problem if they are just jumping the wagon with a crappy reason.

Furthermore, other players besides absta have called KBW out on this, yet you're only going after absta for it. It screams OMGUS to me, and not the towny kind either.

I went after absta because he jumps aboard after the wagon picked up some speed.

Additionally, you have been playing the noob card; you asked how many scum people think there are in a game of 13.
If you want to play the noob card, don't deny playing it when someone else calls you out for it.

I was referring to the fact that he quoted me and said i was playing the noob card there. Not playing a specific game type =/= noob.
But if that is what he was referring to, then i retract my statement.

I have no idea why you say voting for Keyblade is a bad idea.

I never said that voting for keyblade was a bad idea, i said the reasoning behind it was.
Looked like an opportunistic scum.

So Xeg, why are you defending him so much when he has literally no case on anyone else/his own playing?

Im just saying that i could understand his play based on the attention he has on him and the pressure he must be feeling.
Point a gun at me and i'll sing. Keep pointing and i'll even curse the very things most precious to me.

Absta, answer this.

You've seen even less from Safety or Lurker, why only question me?

[Revenus]

Xegarus; what is your read on KBW right now, you seem to lean that he's being anti-town, then at the very end of your post you say that you "can understand his play", meaning that you think that he's town reacting badly to pressure.

[Xegarus]

meaning that you think that he's town reacting badly to pressure.

If you want me to say it then yes, exactly that.
I feel he is probably town reacting badly.

[Revenus]

I'm trying to figure out how exactly you have a townread on him based on his actions so far, so let me ask you this.


Do you think the pressure on him is deserved or undeserved? What do you think of his play before he started getting voted?

[Xegarus]

I'm trying to figure out how exactly you have a townread on him based on his actions so far, so let me ask you this.


Do you think the pressure on him is deserved or undeserved? What do you think of his play before he started getting voted?

I feel the pressure on him is deserved. He came in being a smart ass with the VI comments and kept at it. But it looked like some kind of reaction test.....or as if he was trolling. (104: Here he says he wont call you an idiot, and then calls you an idiot) (122: Here he mentions that you have to unvote and askes for 2 reasons. It all sounds like he's probably just trolling. What i dislike about absta's vote is that he says Key was over reacting. No he wasnt. Not from my point of view. Key is just chatting crap. If anything, uptil this point he isn't reacting much at all.)
To sum it up i think he was just tryna be a smart ass and then people jumped on him.
Like absta. I don't like how he jumped on Key after Safety.
I don't think Key is scum just yet cause it seems too obvious. Like he wants to be lynched. He's not afraid to look anti town, other wise he would have changed long ago, this looks pretty town to me or at the very least not mafia.