Newbie 1336 (OVER)

[JasonWazza]

Fuck i clicked submit without P-Editing:

Thanks Sven, i want a bigger read on Ms M whether i am dead or alive.

[Ms Marangal]

Did Sven just take the hammer? :/

oh, no wait, Jason and BEF both are at L-1

the more I read through Jason's post, the less I think that he's scum.

INTENT TO HAMMER BEF

BEF, now's the best time to defend yourself, and claim.

[JasonWazza]

the more I read through Jason's post, the less I think that he's scum.

Holy fuck are you sure?

You realize i'm the IC right?

So your still sure?

But seriously don't hammer till i get the case on me that isn't anything about me being an IC.

[BrightEyedFish]

I see no reason for a hammer. Perhaps my play as not been as perfect as the more experienced player. All I can say that my lynch will not help the town as I am a Vanilla Townie.
Perhaps my cases on others are far-fetched but they are how I see the game. If I am to go down remember my last read. Also, I very much believe that at least 1 scum is voting me at this moment.
The three voting me at this moment are: JasonWazza, Cybertronix, and Svenskt Stål

Again, I would love to stay and rut out the 2 scummers running around and I do not feel that I am deserving of a lynch.
Maybe you don't agree with my actions, but I am putting my best foot forward and trying to decide which ones of you all are scum.

If lynched, I will flip Vanilla Townie.

[JasonWazza]

All I can say that my lynch will not help the town as I am a Vanilla Townie.

What's with all the AtE?

[Ms Marangal]

Yes Jason, I realize that you are the IC, I know who you are and how you play... to an extent though I can't deny the Logic that is in your posts. besides, BEF comes off to be way more scummy and his flip can give us answers.

why so concerned about my falling back on you?

[JasonWazza]

Ummm that was a joke......


That's why the last part was there.

Also a note BEF didn't put up a case when asked.

[Ms Marangal]

a joke on my stubborness?

and fair enough

VOTE: BEF

[Messiah]

I'm phoneposting, will edit this post later. For right now:

BrightEyedFish, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched. It is now Night 2.

Phase Deadline:

(expired on 2013-03-22 14:30:00)

[Messiah]

Newbie 1336 - Day 3 Dawn

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Voodoo Lady has been killed Night 2. She was a

Doctor

.

It is now Day 3.

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Phase Deadline:

(expired on 2013-04-05 15:30:00)

[Svenskt Stål]

That makes sense.

I will give the thread a reread tommorow but I dont know why MR E wasnt killed last night. Jason,,, this isnt looking good yo.

[Ms Marangal]

....

Mr E wasn't killed last night... VL was. I'm going to have to look for some hints myself though

[Mr E Roll]

I don't need any clues, who was on both townies wagons-- Jason and Sven.

Ms M start your investigation by looking at the interaction of Sven and Jason yesterday.

Let’s start with Sven’s list of reads. I’m going to focus on BEF and Jason.

BrightEyedFishMy most riliable town read, he was also the top townie for MrZepher who we know was a villager. I have been agreeing with his thoughtprocess in most posts.

Does any body really think that BEF had a thought process that involved anything other than sheeping Jason? If Sven and Jason had been allowed to carry BEF into today they would have been practically guaranteed a scum victory.

Jason Wazza
Having very little time for stupidity which I think and hope is a sign of an eager townie. I have also been agreeing with him on his case against reham, rehams vote yesterday really looked like it was a checklist for town approval. At the same time I am hesitant since he is the most experienced player in the game he would be capable of doing this as mafia. That is not fair, I know but still the thought bothers me.

If Sven was genuinely concerned that Jason would be capable of acting in the manner that he was as mafia why did he engage in the “read building exercise” with Jason? Tell me the way they interacted yesterday doesn’t look like a team. He votes for his most reliable town read on the say so of a guy who he is supposedly hesitant to trust? How does that make sense?

Ms M what happened after you noticed Sven was sheeping Jason? Sven almost immediately votes for Jason to distance himself in an effort to break the connection that you had noticed. He engages Jason in what I would describe as a sparring session before unvoting a mere hour and half after placing his vote. He then keeps his vote in his pocket for close to 72 hours because he can’t place it on his first choice.

Which is odd since he has this to say about voting …

So you are robbing the town of information by not voting.

Maybee not allways, but its a tool, its avaible, why not use it.

Its my experience that you get alot more with voting than without, the vote is the fist of reason.

[Mr E Roll]

Schrodinger's gun. If Mr. Z had claimed doctor, Jason would have said that he was obviously scum trying to bait out the town doctor before he died. And if Mr. Z claimed cop, Jason would have claimed that Mr. Z was scum trying to bait the protective roles into targeting him.

So if you think Jason was going to refute any PR claim why do you think he wanted one so bad? Couldn’t wait a few extra hours to see the flip to find out if he got a PR lynched? Do you think if MrZ claimed vanilla townie Jason would have backed off and looked for another target?

I gave this a lot of thought before coming to the conclusion. Jason does keep MrZ if he claims doctor but he does so as scum. He jumps off the Mr Z bandwagon and NK’s him if he isn’t lynched either way he gets big time town cred for trying to save the doctor. If the NK doesn’t go through he knows the game set up. He waits until somebody asks why the doctor wasn't killed and then pushes the wagon until the JK has to come forward to defend Mr Z or he saves the knowledge until he is forced to claim. He doesn't keep JK or cop because they are too dangerous for scum to keep around.

[JasonWazza]

^Stupid post

Doctor is just a shitty Scum claim, JK and cop are both easy fake claims for scum.

If you believe someone is scum you lynch them, period.

Also i find it funny that HE is giving me this lecture, he was on that Mr Z lynch as well.

[JasonWazza]

Hey i just realized Cyber is still playing this WTF, i forgot he existed,

[Cybertronix]

K well I'm gonna look over this hopefully this weekend.

[JasonWazza]

If Sven was genuinely concerned that Jason would be capable of acting in the manner that he was as mafia why did he engage in the “read building exercise” with Jason? Tell me the way they interacted yesterday doesn’t look like a team. He votes for his most reliable town read on the say so of a guy who he is supposedly hesitant to trust? How does that make sense?

Because scum or not i was gonna be building a decent read on Ms M, i presonally have a rather large Town read on her after my

team

read building exercise.

Here's my reads list as of right now without a re-read or whatever

Ms M - Massive town read
Cybertronix - Null
Sven - Probably scum
Mr E - Almost certainly scum.

[JasonWazza]

Also this is a LYLO situation don't vote till your certain blah blah blah

[Ms Marangal]

... I was a massive scum read when I replaced in though, what exactly did I do to make you change your mind?

[Mr E Roll]

If you believe someone is scum you lynch them, period.

I agree that’s why I didn’t care what Mr Z claimed because I believed he was scum and needed lynching. You wanted the claim because you had an ulterior motive as scum.

[JasonWazza]

... I was a massive scum read when I replaced in though, what exactly did I do to make you change your mind?

The hammer looked extremely town.

If you believe someone is scum you lynch them, period.

I agree that’s why I didn’t care what Mr Z claimed because I believed he was scum and needed lynching. You wanted the claim because you had an ulterior motive as scum.

No the claim was his last resort, it was either he claimed and that saved him from the lynch or he claimed and was lynched, no ulterior motive

[Svenskt Stål]

Okay so if MR E is scum I am giving him the victory, not gonna vote him.

THat leaves jason, cybertronix and marangal. I cant really see the team not having jason.

[Ms Marangal]

... that was terrible...

I admittedly don't see Jason to be just as viable as before, and Mr E is still at the top of my scum pile. my read on Cyber is pretty null as he hasn't posted much. I do find it to be interesting that Jason is still alive, but scum is likely to want to use him as a scapegoat so that makes Mr. E that much more viable.

I hate to say it, but I'm on the same page in terms of who is and isn't scum...

[Ms Marangal]

as jason