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[qwints]

I think the whole "we aren't going to vote Majiffy on d1 'cause he might actually be useful

. He's scum plain and simple and delaying his lynch is stupid. Aparently being an asshole makes people not want to lynch you so meh, I'll just vig him instead. But since there's like no support lets go with my 2nd scum read.

I can't, for the life of my, parse this post. What dose the bolded sentence fragment mean? I can't tell what you're saying other people are saying and what you're saying.

[Majiffy]

Pretty sure he meant to end that with *

" is dumb

[Majiffy]

^ with the way the above vote count, this day is not ending anytime sooner.!!!
This is going to be another game with very large day 1 game.

You're worse at staying in-hydra than I am, jeez.

Hydra first time...

Don't worry, it DOESN'T get any easier to remember to switch accounts.

[Piratecat]

so we agree that jal and qwints are town

waiting to hear about mastin. I have him as town but I want mala's input on this.

[Majiffy]

I don't like Jal.

[Angelious Nero]

I don't like Jal.

you don't like lot of people Majiffy, be more specific. Is it personal or game play.
If it is game play, are you referring to a specific game you played with her? or this one? or Is this happen to be your general read on her?

[Ms Marangal]

you just stated that you were kidding in 423... I am so confused :/

Actually that was Nero but that doesn't mean that we think you're town. He is right. You're pretty much null to him and leaning scum to me.
so, that makes you fit between the Null > Leaning Scum category for us.

And you still haven't answered to my question about where you're at with your catching up? and what your scum reads and town reads?

oh, I'm on page like, 11 and my reads are all essentially Null.

[Majiffy]

Not sure yet. There was a post Jal made that was rather sizable wherein I disagreed with practically everything she said. But stupid doesn't necessitate scum. I'll need to poke and prod her more.

Her defensiveness to my insults is notable, though.

[Angelious Nero]

Pretty sure he meant to end that with *

" is dumb

Majiffy-1 Qwints-0

[Jal]

Jal, when you check in, I'd like your analysis of what Slandaar did in post 327.

I have no idea if he even knows what he is doing in that particular post considering it is a hydra. Helps I just got out of a game with Cyro, though and they slipped.

I agree with his later Cyro analysis to an extent, though. I want to see more Cyro. Slaandy is playing more towards town Slaandy. As in, he's actually doing crap.

[Slandaar]

OK I read everything after being motivated by Mastins pro buddying technique

Town;
Bork
Mac
Mollie
Goat

Probably town;
Mastin
Jal

I think town:
Majiffy
NC

Undecided
AP

Might be scum
UN
GIF

Probably scum
KoC
ANG
Qwints
Maran

Scum
Cryo
Messiah

anyone I didn't put in this list I really don't have an opinion on; also; I didn't use hydra names because I mostly went from memory.

also; I expect this to be multiball.

[Slandaar]

Slaandy is playing more towards town Slaandy. As in, he's actually doing crap.

Could you explain using different wording I am unsure which meaning you are going for.

[Angelious Nero]

Not sure yet. There was a post Jal made that was rather sizable wherein I disagreed with practically everything she said. But stupid doesn't necessitate scum. I'll need to poke and prod her more.

Her defensiveness to my insults is notable, though.

You mean this?

Spoiler:

UberG and AANero hydras: please sign your posts.

Qwints is meh, but a bad meh.
GIF I've elaborated on already.
Messiah's posts just seem bad from my gut.
Neither Nero nor Angel are posting in a way which really gives me townvibes, either.

The best vote here is as stated AP's.

These aren't reads. Seem bad? What the hell does that even mean?

Also, you keep posting how ANG is the best lynch, give reasoning for not getting on it, prove your reasoning sucks, say again ANG is the best vote, and then you sit on your ass doing crap all. You are basically pushing/distancing on a lynch here without actually putting your duff on it yourself.

I don't get how wagon speed means anything.

Then there is the whole multiball theory.

Meh. Majiffy doesn't feel like d1 lynch material.

D1 lynch material? Lynch material? Why are you making decisions based on "lynch material" rather than if he's town or scum?

I don't give two flips over a miller claim.

VOTE: mastin2

Also, explain why D3 seems to be so important and why you believe you'll live until D3. You mention it twice, once for revealing flavour and for talking about Majiffy D3.

That was only notable post that i see her mentioning about you, mostly blamming mastin for considering you as some kind of material to keep you alive for a while.

well doesnt' seem so bad....

And rest of our posts were about Goat and Marangal RVS vote thing.

~A

[Angelious Nero]

you just stated that you were kidding in 423... I am so confused :/

Actually that was Nero but that doesn't mean that we think you're town. He is right. You're pretty much null to him and leaning scum to me.
so, that makes you fit between the Null > Leaning Scum category for us.

And you still haven't answered to my question about where you're at with your catching up? and what your scum reads and town reads?

oh, I'm on page like, 11 and my reads are all essentially Null.

OMG, Please don't fill this page with these posts, they ain't going to do any good to you. Trust me!!. Unless you're putting up this whole dumb act..

[Jal]

Hey, AP, you can read Jal, right? Gonna need you to tell me if this is scum-Jal or not.

But to answer--I talk of day three because the only way I'm dieing before then is via nightkill. Which would mean one of these happened:
-A vig wasted a shot on me (especially since I've offered a reveal on d3 which should be well-before lylo),
-A SK thought taking me out would be a good idea,
-Or the scum NK'd the miller claim before they kill the cop, a-la LIPD Mafia.

Speed of a wagon, like it or not, IS a factor. There CAN be town-based quick-wagons, but experience tells me that assuming all members of a quick-wagon are town is naive to the point of idiocy. Quick-wagons CAN be on scum, but experience tells me that assuming so is going against the numbers; quick-wagons are almost never on scum. With the possible exception of multiball games.

As for lynch material--I meant what I said. I don't think Majiffy is a good d1 lynch regardless of his alignment. If he's town, he's a dang-good scumhunter whether you like him or not. Not to Nero levels of good, but not someone you want to casually dismiss. If he's scum, his posts can shed light on who his scumbuddies are. As I said. I'm not considering a lynch on him 'til d3. I'm writing him off and giving him a pass, kinda like I'm giving AP a pass, kinda like I'm giving Nero a pass.

And those ARE reads, whether you want 'em to be or not.
Qwints is nullish-scum. GIF's alignment is determined by multiscum or not. Messiah (who I'm currently voting) is a scumread. Nero/Angel's posting wasn't solid at the time of the post, but they've since rebounded onto the town side of things by quite some margin, butyeah, the important factor here is that at the time they looked bad.

You think this is very possibly a multiball game, so you yourself should be having not such a big problem with quick wagons as you just said and it shouldn't deter you from joining based on that factor. Also, no to the other stuff. Also doesn't take into an account that there can be scum on scum. Man, I've started a few quick wagons myself on scum.

You mentioned D3 multiple times. What makes it so special to do things then instead of today or D2?

Yeah, I've seen someone do the whole case for "we should keep this person around because they will reveal more blah blah." Well lookatdat, they flipped scum in ADWD mafia with shit reasoning. If you think someone is scum, you get on that bandwagon. You especially want to get people like that out of the way. You can apply the, "if he's scum he can shed light on his scum buddies" to just about anyone you think is scum Either way, not being "D1 lynch material" doesn't signify any alignment from you and is not a good excuse for whatever you were trying to accomplish there.

[Majiffy]

That was only notable post that i see her mentioning about you, mostly blamming mastin for considering you as some kind of material to keep you alive for a while.

well doesnt' seem so bad....

And rest of our posts were about Goat and Marangal RVS vote thing.

~A

Yeah that's the post. But you're misunderstanding; my qualms aren't with it because of any involvement with me. I fundamentally disagree with all of her opinions stated therein.

[AngryPidgeon]

@Arcangel: I only started talking about Mac because Nero asked me specifically to respond to his post about my opinion on Mac; Mac has mostly been a nonentity this game and I didn't consider a singular vote on him to be super notable at the time.

I pretty much agree with 95% of Slandaar's reads and I think Slandaar is town so that is awesome. I'm really amused that a fair number of people don't know what to make of me this game.

So, who has a scumread on Messiah, raise your hands. Because I think Slandaar, me, mastin, Nero, Majiffy have all talked about that now. Lets lynch Messiah.

[Jal]

NULL-SCUM:
Approximately Normal Guy (aka, ANG)

How did this guy get risen on your list from being possibly the best vote?

At some point, I have to go reread macm ms whatever and messaiah. I gain a temporary short attention span reading their posts.

Slaandy, I mean you are actually contributing which makes me think you're town.

I think you're town AP. Along with Nero and some other people. Think I had Bork as town for changing his reasoning for changing his vote on Nero hydra.

[Majiffy]

Hokay.

VOTE: Messiah

[Ms Marangal]

you just stated that you were kidding in 423... I am so confused :/

Actually that was Nero but that doesn't mean that we think you're town. He is right. You're pretty much null to him and leaning scum to me.
so, that makes you fit between the Null > Leaning Scum category for us.

And you still haven't answered to my question about where you're at with your catching up? and what your scum reads and town reads?

oh, I'm on page like, 11 and my reads are all essentially Null.

OMG, Please don't fill this page with these posts, they ain't going to do any good to you. Trust me!!. Unless you're putting up this whole dumb act..

I was answering your question Angel... Unless that's Nero, then nevermind.

I just realized, KoC enter's, does IIoA, is somewhat aggressive early on, and stated that he contributed most to the discussion, though really he didn't do jack...

at that point, I retaliated with "I'm doing just as much" when I only had two posts, one stating that I was here, the other an awkward post and KoC was never heard from again...

ANG, I can see why he's scummy. I feel he has over reacting to messiah's pressure on him

and Jiffy is being pretty Cocky. nothing new there

AP, I still feel pretty townie about

Mastin, I find to be townie, though his miller claim is to gutsy for scum, so he can be town

Jal can he town

Goat I still feel pretty scummy about, I still don't really like his rvs vote, nor do I like his little "stunt"

Angel and Mollie hydra's are both active, and contributing to the conversation, I find them both leaning town

Mac is null leaning scum

Bork is Completely Null

Pedit: Moar posts

[Slandaar]

Have you ever seen me as scum Jal?

[Jal]

I played on an alt vs a scum you.

[Slandaar]

Interesting

Can I guess who or do you want it to be a top secret aka cryo style?

[Angelious Nero]

That was only notable post that i see her mentioning about you, mostly blamming mastin for considering you as some kind of material to keep you alive for a while.

well doesnt' seem so bad....

And rest of our posts were about Goat and Marangal RVS vote thing.

~A

Yeah that's the post. But you're misunderstanding; my qualms aren't with it because of any involvement with me. I fundamentally disagree with all of her opinions stated therein.

Why don't you state those opinions?
So far she had only two logics may three (including her thing Slaandar)

Spoiler:

Hey, AP, you can read Jal, right? Gonna need you to tell me if this is scum-Jal or not.

But to answer--I talk of day three because the only way I'm dieing before then is via nightkill. Which would mean one of these happened:
-A vig wasted a shot on me (especially since I've offered a reveal on d3 which should be well-before lylo),
-A SK thought taking me out would be a good idea,
-Or the scum NK'd the miller claim before they kill the cop, a-la LIPD Mafia.

Speed of a wagon, like it or not, IS a factor. There CAN be town-based quick-wagons, but experience tells me that assuming all members of a quick-wagon are town is naive to the point of idiocy. Quick-wagons CAN be on scum, but experience tells me that assuming so is going against the numbers; quick-wagons are almost never on scum. With the possible exception of multiball games.

As for lynch material--I meant what I said. I don't think Majiffy is a good d1 lynch regardless of his alignment. If he's town, he's a dang-good scumhunter whether you like him or not. Not to Nero levels of good, but not someone you want to casually dismiss. If he's scum, his posts can shed light on who his scumbuddies are. As I said. I'm not considering a lynch on him 'til d3. I'm writing him off and giving him a pass, kinda like I'm giving AP a pass, kinda like I'm giving Nero a pass.

And those ARE reads, whether you want 'em to be or not.
Qwints is nullish-scum. GIF's alignment is determined by multiscum or not. Messiah (who I'm currently voting) is a scumread. Nero/Angel's posting wasn't solid at the time of the post, but they've since rebounded onto the town side of things by quite some margin, butyeah, the important factor here is that at the time they looked bad.

You think this is very possibly a multiball game, so you yourself should be having not such a big problem with quick wagons as you just said and it shouldn't deter you from joining based on that factor. Also, no to the other stuff. Also doesn't take into an account that there can be scum on scum. Man, I've started a few quick wagons myself on scum.

You mentioned D3 multiple times. What makes it so special to do things then instead of today or D2?

Yeah, I've seen someone do the whole case for "we should keep this person around because they will reveal more blah blah." Well lookatdat, they flipped scum in ADWD mafia with shit reasoning. If you think someone is scum, you get on that bandwagon. You especially want to get people like that out of the way. You can apply the, "if he's scum he can shed light on his scum buddies" to just about anyone you think is scum Either way, not being "D1 lynch material" doesn't signify any alignment from you and is not a good excuse for whatever you were trying to accomplish there.

Jal, If I ask you if you had to choose a day 1 lynch material regardless of game play, how would you base your pick and more importantly who would you pick here?

@Arcangel: I only started talking about Mac because Nero asked me specifically to respond to his post about my opinion on Mac; Mac has mostly been a nonentity this game and I didn't consider a singular vote on him to be super notable at the time.

I pretty much agree with 95% of Slandaar's reads and I think Slandaar is town so that is awesome. I'm really amused that a fair number of people don't know what to make of me this game.

So, who has a scumread on Messiah, raise your hands. Because I think Slandaar, me, mastin, Nero, Majiffy have all talked about that now. Lets lynch Messiah.

Fine. But your question was why we voted Mac. that still baised. if we have asked you for your input , you give or don't your input but your point was confusing.

and btw, Majiffy seem to have scum read on Messiah. Or it could be one of his random votes too.

~A

[Mac]

why am I nullscum, because I voted you?