Open 485: Polygamist Mafia - GAME OVER

[Keybladewielder]

Just put me on V/LA until Sunday

Noted.

[Ms Marangal]

VOTE: orcinus

Why isn't everybody voting this guy right now?

...

you aren't even going to explain why your voting him? I'm wary because your vote seems like it's going to the person who is recieving the most pressure. first you vote me, then you place your vote on Orci... you going to place a vote on TAM soon too?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: orcinus

Why isn't everybody voting this guy right now?

Well because I'm town I guess

You seem full of angst. Is something up?

[FuDuzn]

Orc, not sure how you get angst out of that. I am voting you because of the whole 'you are scummy' thing.

Marangal, I voted you for pressure. I am voting Orc for reasons I just told him. He is scum.

Don't go all protecting him, unless you have a vested interest in protecting him......do you?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I didn't see that she had, I'll get that game soon.


Also, Orc, Please stop discrediting my post of the narrative when I DO have people who made the same interpretation. Call it a gut reaction and interpreting of others posts. Plus having played this game before.

Show me where anyone else also said that:
"you could be scum pouting about not being able to talk to your buddies in the day"
Go.

Fact: You have said that you spoke to your partner last night and that you had no idea that you wouldn't get your quick topic during the day?
How did a: That question not come up in the qt? and b: you not think to check and make sure with the mod?
Also, as far as I'm concerned, you could be lying about one or the other of these things, or both.

I don't know, it didn't occur to me at the time????

The fact that you're even trying to use this to get at my alignment is weak as hell.

Fact: Marangal has said she thought you were OMGUSing fferyllt.
Now as you admit it seems a little weak and baseless, HOWEVER, that's why you can use it as an attack on the only person whose willing to question you about it.

What? I don't understand this sentence.

Right now Orc, I don't think you are the scummiest player out there, and I'd rather go after a completely silent player... However you are on my radar, and I know how reliable Marangal's reads on me can be.

Why don't I rephrase this for you.

"Right now, Orc, I don't really think I want to engage with you because I really don't have a case on you, and my bandwagoning got caught out which makes me sad. I don't really want to engage with you, so I want to put my suspicion on inactive players, who can't question me like you are doing. I think completely silent players look like easy targets. Yeah, I think they're scummy."

People we can vote him now.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

hi fudu i'm online and you're online let's logic

why am i scum

[Ms Marangal]

no, but I do have a problem with with people who place their votes without giving it a second thought, especially in this set-up. I'm not protecting him, I had already stated that he is one of my biggest suspects in this game

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And actually you didn't tell me what reasons you're voting me for so you should do that too.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

M: that was addressed at TAM. And when I said talk to me about my jumpiness, I sort of wanted an explanation of how I've been "jumpy". I don't see what you're trying to get at at all.

[Ms Marangal]

the jumpiness originated from the fact that you voted for FF when he had stated that your vote was interesting and then you seemingly freak out when FF calls you out for the OMGUS vote.

[FuDuzn]

Then why not vote him Marangal?

Orc, I would have to quote every single one of your posts.

So basically, iso yourself......you are scum. Asking for an explanation is a pretty sorry defense, one may say a scummy defense as well.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

So which part of "my vote was RV" are you still not getting?

EDIT: Okay A+ scumhunting

[Ms Marangal]

no, I get it now, but that's what it came off as at the time.

and basically, I'm not voting him because of the spat between him and TAM who just so happen to be my top two reads.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No I mean you're not making sense right now.

Reasons why you think I'm scum:
1. I'm jumpy.
-I've explained why I have not been jumpy from my point of view. You say that you get it now. So this reason doesn't hold anymore.
2. ...?

Votes or scumreads without reasons are inherently anti-town and scummy.

135 is terrible.

[fferyllt]

Yeah, this set-up is giving me fits.

I think I need to go on a meta harvest.

[FuDuzn]

Ff, don't overthink things and just vote Orc.

You too Klick, let's just make this simple and easy.

[Ms Marangal]

No I mean you're not making sense right now.

Reasons why you think I'm scum:
1. I'm jumpy.
-I've explained why I have not been jumpy from my point of view. You say that you get it now. So this reason doesn't hold anymore.
2. ...?

Votes or scumreads without reasons are inherently anti-town and scummy.

135 is terrible.

yeah. My scum read on you is dropping and I can see where Levi is coming from in regards to you. that was my reason, and it's also a main reason why I dislike RVS, the defenses that you had just made could be done easily by scum.

2? I don't really have a second reason to believe that you are scum. you are aggressive, which is inherently townie, but scum can do it as well.

[leviathan93]

Orc, not sure how you get angst out of that. I am voting you because of the whole 'you are scummy' thing.

Marangal, I voted you for pressure. I am voting Orc for reasons I just told him. He is scum.

Don't go all protecting him, unless you have a vested interest in protecting him......do you?

i'm sorry, but i think this post is just bad. especially the last line.

come on, there are many reasons to protect someone that have nothing to do with scum.

town should protect town in this game. especially from possible mislynches.

yes she thinks he is scummy on her own, but when she spots your attack on him and doesn't like it then she should say something about it like she does.

i personally think orc seems town at this point, which is why i am thinking you look scummy for trying to push his lynch.

[fferyllt]

analysis is my game.

We've got lots of time. What's your hurry FuDuzn?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc, not sure how you get angst out of that. I am voting you because of the whole 'you are scummy' thing.

Marangal, I voted you for pressure. I am voting Orc for reasons I just told him. He is scum.

Don't go all protecting him, unless you have a vested interest in protecting him......do you?

i'm sorry, but i think this post is just bad. especially the last line.

come on, there are many reasons to protect someone that have nothing to do with scum.

town should protect town in this game. especially from possible mislynches.

yes she thinks he is scummy on her own, but when she spots your attack on him and doesn't like it then she should say something about it like she does.

i personally think orc seems town at this point, which is why i am thinking you look scummy for trying to push his lynch.

Hi put your vote where your mouth is mister.

Ff, don't overthink things and just vote Orc.

You too Klick, let's just make this simple and easy.

I don't really think you understand the game here.

You're supposed to

try to look town.

Yes, even scum.

[The Acting Method]

Also, Orc, Please stop discrediting my post of the narrative when I DO have people who made the same interpretation. Call it a gut reaction and interpreting of others posts. Plus having played this game before.

Show me where anyone else also said that:
"you could be scum pouting about not being able to talk to your buddies in the day"
Go.

That wasn't the part I was referring too. That isn't a part of the "Narrative" either. People HAVE agreed that they thought the vote you made was OMGUS (which brings of the 5 who have commented 3-2, four if you want to include the implications from fud.)

Fact: You have said that you spoke to your partner last night and that you had no idea that you wouldn't get your quick topic during the day?
How did a: That question not come up in the qt? and b: you not think to check and make sure with the mod?
Also, as far as I'm concerned, you could be lying about one or the other of these things, or both.

I don't know, it didn't occur to me at the time????

The fact that you're even trying to use this to get at my alignment is weak as hell.

Fact: Marangal has said she thought you were OMGUSing fferyllt.
Now as you admit it seems a little weak and baseless, HOWEVER, that's why you can use it as an attack on the only person whose willing to question you about it.

What? I don't understand this sentence.

Okay let me boil this down for you.
You have said that the idea of you OMGUSing Fferyllt for saying Interesting is a weak and has no baisis (this whole argument has been basically me arguing the point that, ummm no, it's plausible that could be a scum reaction.) But, being as I am the only person whose actually questioned you fully on your explination... You're using it to attack me.

Right now Orc, I don't think you are the scummiest player out there, and I'd rather go after a completely silent player... However you are on my radar, and I know how reliable Marangal's reads on me can be.

Why don't I rephrase this for you.

"Right now, Orc, I don't really think I want to engage with you because I really don't have a case on you, and my bandwagoning got caught out which makes me sad. I don't really want to engage with you, so I want to put my suspicion on inactive players, who can't question me like you are doing. I think completely silent players look like easy targets. Yeah, I think they're scummy."

This is hilarious, this is hilarious... And let me tell you why?

I want to put my suspicion on inactive players, who can't question me like you are doing. I think completely silent players look like easy targets. Yeah, I think they're scummy.

Please read any game of mine, any game, and show me a game where I do not suggest going after an inactive at some point. Please, and show me if it has ANY connection to my alignment what so ever.

And further more, I'm done arguing with you because you've given me enough. I don't need to get further information out of you at present, and your continued attempts to go after me for questioning you is only proving my hypothesis.

However, I want to hear from the silent ones because they are not easy to read and I would like to get a read off of them.

[leviathan93]

Orc, not sure how you get angst out of that. I am voting you because of the whole 'you are scummy' thing.

Marangal, I voted you for pressure. I am voting Orc for reasons I just told him. He is scum.

Don't go all protecting him, unless you have a vested interest in protecting him......do you?

i'm sorry, but i think this post is just bad. especially the last line.

come on, there are many reasons to protect someone that have nothing to do with scum.

town should protect town in this game. especially from possible mislynches.

yes she thinks he is scummy on her own, but when she spots your attack on him and doesn't like it then she should say something about it like she does.

i personally think orc seems town at this point, which is why i am thinking you look scummy for trying to push his lynch.

Hi put your vote where your mouth is mister.

Ff, don't overthink things and just vote Orc.

You too Klick, let's just make this simple and easy.

I don't really think you understand the game here.

You're supposed to

try to look town.

Yes, even scum.

I don't vote until i'm more sure of things. i don't move my vote easily. you should know that by now for all the times we have played together. and especially in this game i'm cautious of lynching the wrong person since we only have two mislynches and we lose.

[FuDuzn]

Pressure is my game. The key in a game like this, and why wait to lynch scum when it means a town victory?

Pre Edit: So you are more worried about trying to look town instead of actually being town Orc? Please everybody not scum vote this guy.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

well no, we can't mislynch.

No. I'm town. I haven't been trying to look town.

You're scum. You need to try to look town.

Try again.

[leviathan93]

you wait to lynch scum even if its obvious to try and find the other one or in this case other ones before we choose our lynch candidate. AND because not everyone is probably on the same page and believes scum is going to be found so quickly. i certainly don't believe that.