Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[havingfitz]

mod...I'm v/la from 1pm est today until next Monday (25th) morning.

[Majiffy]

Oh hey there Fitz.

[borkjerfkin]

VOTE: Messiah

This is the only wagon I'm even remotely comfortable with right now

[borkjerfkin]

It was destiny. Who else is mentioned in your role card btw?

I kinda want to form a town bloc with Goat, Slandaar, mastin2, Majiffy and AA9/Nero. Pretty sure of those townreads (just gotta stop Nero/AA from trying to kill Majiffy). And most of those townreads are sure of MollieK. In hindsight, I think Majiffy is right about Mollie playing par for the town course.

Other town reads: Jal, PV, Bork, Mac

So when I looked at your townreads I really liked them, which makes me wonder about why I didn't like your scumreads earlier.

I'm probably giving out too many townpoints early.

[PeregrineV]

Why the fuck do I get a sad face? How rude.

In Posh mafia, you had the most town posts at 503 and town lost.
In You can be anyone mafia, you had the second most town posts, and town lost.

I think your town this game, but a certain refinement in your technique would be appreciated, and I think, improve your scumhunting efficiency.

The sad face was because I REALLY wanted to lynch you.

[Majiffy]

Why the fuck do I get a sad face? How rude.

In Posh mafia, you had the most town posts at 503 and town lost.
In You can be anyone mafia, you had the second most town posts, and town lost.

I think your town this game, but a certain refinement in your technique would be appreciated, and I think, improve your scumhunting efficiency.

The sad face was because I REALLY wanted to lynch you.

Both of those games are games where I had called out members of the scum teams very early on, and no one bothered to listen to me.
Meanwhile, there are games where people DO listen to me.

So you can fuck off.

[PeregrineV]

Why the fuck do I get a sad face? How rude.

In Posh mafia, you had the most town posts at 503 and town lost.
In You can be anyone mafia, you had the second most town posts, and town lost.

I think your town this game, but a certain refinement in your technique would be appreciated, and I think, improve your scumhunting efficiency.

The sad face was because I REALLY wanted to lynch you.

Both of those games are games where I had called out members of the scum teams very early on, and no one bothered to listen to me.
Meanwhile, there are games where people DO listen to me.

So you can fuck off.

Sorry, I remember it differently, with an early vote on scum, a late vote on scum, all other votes on town, and a self-hammer on your town self.
But that's water under the bridge....

or it will be when my tic goes away

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So, who are your scumreads right now, Majiffy?

[qwints]

Thegoat, what do you think of AN's case on mac, and why aren't you on that wagon?

[Majiffy]

Messiah, Slandaar (pending review), Jal (pending review), Knight of Cydonia

A good third of the playerlist are still null reads, though.

[Angelious Nero]

Why don't you state those opinions?
So far she had only two logics may three (including her thing Slaandar)


Spoiler:

Jal, If I ask you if you had to choose a day 1 lynch material regardless of game play, how would you base your pick and more importantly who would you pick here?

I know it's addressed to Majiffy, but "logics?"

I don't completely understand your question to me.

Jal, If you want to lynch some on Day1 , who would you prefer? and how would you base that decision?

[mastin2]

Okay, AP. I trust you to be town. (If you're not, I'm going to kill myself for being so stupid and backing down off of you. )
I'll work with ya, now. I'll take a good look at your/Slandaar/Nero's lists and see if they have a common ground.

From the sounds of things, I believe we all have a scumread on Messiah, though, so that'd be an excellent starting point for us to vote.

[mastin2]

This is exactly what I needed to hear in order to place Jal into town. (It also helped place AP into town for good. )

I kinda want to form a town bloc with Goat, Slandaar, mastin2, Majiffy and AA9/Nero.

Totally down with that--a bit iffy on Jiffy (:P), but otherwise this was much what I had in mind.
Speaking of that post, the townreads stated there (Jal, PV, Bork, Mac) I agree with 100%. (Another contributor to AP being town. )

Slandaar has Mollie's hydra as town, an opinion I happen to agree with, so we can also put that in.
A maybe-common scumread is on Cryo (Nero's iso is slightly inconsistent with this) in addition to the definitely-common scumread on Messiah.
I actually think we've got a solid base, here. We just need to flesh out the details, since at least one member of our bloc is going to die via NK.

[mastin2]

So basically...
-Varying degrees of townreads on:
Goat, Slandaar, (Jiffy), Nero, AP, Jal, PV, Bork, Mac (save Nero), Piratecat (Mollie/MalaK)

-Decent scumreads on:
Messiah, CryoNudist

-We need to work on:
Colonel Guile (UN/Guille), MS Marangal, Bitmap, KoC, qwints, havingfitz, GuyInFreezer

Now, you have my opinions. UN/Guile is a very weak townread, Ms Mrangal a decent scumread, GIF's alignment depending on multiscum or not, KoC at weak-town, qwints at null, and Bitmap a gut-scumread.
I need more feedback from ya.

Does anyone in the bloc (or, heck, really...anyone at all ) still have a townread on Ms Marangal? If so, how strong and can you explain?
If not, then what's your read? Null (no opinion--if so, get one ), Ambivalent (unsure), or scum? Also give reasoning and strength (if applicable).

How 'bout KoC? Qwints? Colonel Guile? (I can put off Bitmap and fitz for a bit, owing to their inactivity. I don't expect anyone to have a solid read when there's nothing to get a solid read from.)
What's your take on GuyInFreezer's posts?

[borkjerfkin]

Does anyone in the bloc (or, heck, really...anyone at all ) still have a townread on Ms Marangal? If so, how strong and can you explain?

I think it's plausible at the point in the game to be absolutely lost as she claims (#456), but I can't tell how much she read in between that and #469 when she suddenly has reads (although reading that post it's a lot of IIoA)

So no, not a townread on her here. weak weak scumread.

[ArcAngel9]

STRONG TOWN

Angelious Nero ( Nero Cain/ArcAngel9 hydra )

– We are absolutely town.

mastin2

- Strong town read, One of those people who actually knows how to scum hunt

May be Town

PeregrineV –

PV is being PVr, could be town

PirateCat ( Pirate Mollie/Malakittens hydra ) –

I had to agree with mastin that either mollie or Mala is actually making this hydra bit less stronger, Example: The pointless conversation with Goat about this RVS vote. They stuck with it since two days.. Please get over with it.. do something else.. Anyways, these ladies read town for now.

AngryPidgeon-

His theories are may be not best theories in the world, especially how you he is been defending majiffy like he is love with him, otherwise he reads pretty much town now.

Majiffy -

Yeah, I am surprised a bit too. As much as I think I want this one PL’d, He reads town for now.

Null – Seriously, need more contributions from this list

Colonel Guile ( Uberninja/guille2015 hydra ) –

I had a lot of expectations from this hydra, I don’t see the same kind of excitement uber had when he signed on this game. I guessing if it is may be because he is not happy with his role, I know uber don’t enjoy being scum. So that means, Is he scum? Not sure at this moment. So total NULL.

Jal –

Total Null, I don’t understand her deal with Mastin at all. Seriously Jal, need more inputs from you.

Borkjerfkin –

He is been around in and out sharing his views but not actually helping anyone. READS Null for now.

Qwints –

He asks lot of questions but doesn’t participate in the game. NULL

Ms Marangal –

She is been catching up ever since the game is started. Not useful in anyway.

Bitmap –

NULL , 3 posts so far.

Havingfitz –

normally Fitz is an active player, he normally plays similar if he is town or scum. He is a hard one to read but he is been null so far on this game.

The Goat –

Need more contribution other than arguing over Pirate cat and Marrangal

Slandaar –

Null so far.. It’s like nobody exists in the game other than Jal

Leaning scum

Messiah
Approximately Normal Guy
Knight of Cydonia
GuyinFreezer

Scum/Lynch candidates:

CryoNudist
Mac

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[Angelious Nero]

STRONG TOWN

Angelious Nero ( Nero Cain/ArcAngel9 hydra )

– We are absolutely town.

mastin2

- Strong town read, One of those people who actually knows how to scum hunt

May be Town

PeregrineV –

PV is being PVr, could be town

PirateCat ( Pirate Mollie/Malakittens hydra ) –

I had to agree with mastin that either mollie or Mala is actually making this hydra bit less stronger, Example: The pointless conversation with Goat about this RVS vote. They stuck with it since two days.. Please get over with it.. do something else.. Anyways, these ladies read town for now.

AngryPidgeon-

His theories are may be not best theories in the world, especially how you he is been defending majiffy like he is love with him, otherwise he reads pretty much town now.

Majiffy -

Yeah, I am surprised a bit too. As much as I think I want this one PL’d, He reads town for now.

Null – Seriously, need more contributions from this list

Colonel Guile ( Uberninja/guille2015 hydra ) –

I had a lot of expectations from this hydra, I don’t see the same kind of excitement uber had when he signed on this game. I guessing if it is may be because he is not happy with his role, I know uber don’t enjoy being scum. So that means, Is he scum? Not sure at this moment. So total NULL.

Jal –

Total Null, I don’t understand her deal with Mastin at all. Seriously Jal, need more inputs from you.

Borkjerfkin –

He is been around in and out sharing his views but not actually helping anyone. READS Null for now.

Qwints –

He asks lot of questions but doesn’t participate in the game. NULL

Ms Marangal –

She is been catching up ever since the game is started. Not useful in anyway.

Bitmap –

NULL , 3 posts so far.

Havingfitz –

normally Fitz is an active player, he normally plays similar if he is town or scum. He is a hard one to read but he is been null so far on this game.

The Goat –

Need more contribution other than arguing over Pirate cat and Marrangal

Slandaar –

Null so far.. It’s like nobody exists in the game other than Jal

Leaning scum

Messiah
Approximately Normal Guy
Knight of Cydonia
GuyinFreezer

Scum/Lynch candidates:

CryoNudist
Mac

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[The Goat]

Thegoat, what do you think of AN's case on mac, and why aren't you on that wagon?

I'm assuming you're referring to his early read on Mac's overreaction to Bork's post. I saw it similarly. I am not on that wagon because I don't feel as strongly about that as I do about KoC being scum.

I'll be phone posting for the rest of the day as I can; may check in very late. Apparently my workplace's Websense filter dislikes Mafiascum.net.

[AngryPidgeon]

In Posh mafia, you had the most town posts at 503 and town lost.

I wish Vifam were in this game so I could vote him : P

@Mastin: I agree about Majiffy. Of my strong townreads, he is the one I could be wrong about. He _feels_ town to me this game, but I know Majiffy is majiffy. Majiffy, could you explain your Slandaar scumread?

-We need to work on:
Colonel Guile (UN/Guille), MS Marangal, Bitmap, KoC, qwints, havingfitz, GuyInFreezer

I really want to see more content from these players. Guile is a very weak townread (for calling me town but not bothering to check/move his vote and just otherwise not pretending to be helpful). Oh I see you also said hes a weak townread ><

Bitmap a gut-scumread.

Im not really getting anything from Bitmap's two posts. And I know he said in his modded game that he was going V/LA for an extended period of time...would be nice to get a replacement if hes really going to flake from the thread like that. I've played with bitmap and I've seen him flake; I really don't think flaking is a scumtell from him. My really deep gut wants to say Bitmap is more likely town than not for forgetting about this game (its more memorable when you draw scum), but I don't want to call him anything other than null right now.

I really need more from Fitz - I feel I can read him pretty well, but his inactivity is throwing me off.

I like the Marangal scumread, I think. I'd put her on the scummy side of null. I want to hear Mollie's spiel about her scumread there.

I scumread qwints at some point in every game we play together. That said, I tend to think Qwints is scum this game and I'm curious why Goat thinks he is town .

KoC is one of the people that is getting read differently by a lot of people. I didn't like his Majiffy push, but that could be a playstyle thing from him. Really need more content there.

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I see AA/Nero like Cryo for scum. I don't see anyone townreading that slot, possibly a better lynch than Messiah.

[Piratecat]

Cool stuff. We are going to possibly become part of the town block?

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Bitmap normally would have gotten into the game though. So him not posting before going V/LA is alarming to me.

Yeah, Fitz, is someone that I'm bad at reading. Though his activity is low, but question is the activity low for all his games?

[mastin2]

I see AA/Nero like Cryo for scum. I don't see anyone townreading that slot, possibly a better lynch than Messiah.

Well, it's a start.

Does anyone

(other than Messiah or CryoNudist, obviously )

object to narrowing our lynch candidates for today down to CryoNudist and Messiah?

If so, give a damn-strong reason why, since I really think we should begin consolidating our votes on one/both of those two.

[Angelious Nero]

I see AA/Nero like Cryo for scum. I don't see anyone townreading that slot, possibly a better lynch than Messiah.

Mastin has a strong town read on us, you had a strong town read on us, Majiffy is calling us dumbtown (which is like the pot calling the kettle black)

Are you honestly scumhunting based on how others read a slot?

[Angelious Nero]

I see AA/Nero like Cryo for scum. I don't see anyone townreading that slot, possibly a better lynch than Messiah.

Well, it's a start.

The hell is this?

[CryoChemist]

We are good with that. We'll go 1v1 with messia. Will help us get into this game.

[qwints]

We are good with that. We'll go 1v1 with messia. Will help us get into this game.

Who mentioned 1v1?

[AngryPidgeon]

^ Mastin kind of did in 569.

@Nero: I don't know what you mean. I think Cryo is scummy. Almost all of my townreads think Cryo is scummy. Almost no one thinks he is town. That makes him a great lynch even if hes not my #1 pick for scum right now.