Mini 1428: Reign of Flame (Game Over)

[Maestro]

mollie, yuo have a hackneyed interpretation of "flailing" if what you think I'm doing is flailing

also, Axxle is being kindof obvTown right now

[Majiffy]

[BBmolla]

Catching up by tomorrow or I'm replacing out.

[Majiffy]

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Maestro [4]

- CryoNudist, BBmolla, Majiffy, jon_h61

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CryoNudist [2]

- Venmar, Maestro

BBmolla [1]

- Aj the Epic

Axxle [1]

- pirate mollie

Venmar [1]

- Axxle

[CryoChemist]

mollie... dear? You didn't get a chance to listen to us Yesterday and we forgive you for that. Sweetie... just Hammer, ok? We love you.

Also, our other head keeps whispering that you're Scum and we don't want to believe it. He just doesn't know you...

And why aren't you sheeping Majjify anyway?

mollie, just come back home...

[Majiffy]

She deliberately avoids sheeping me.

[Majiffy]

That's also why she won't joint he Order of the Flowchart

[CryoChemist]

Well, technically she'd be sheeping us so....

[Majiffy]

No one wants to sheep Majiffy anymore.

[CryoChemist]

So, 2 schools of thought at this time.

1: If maestro is town, both scum would probably be on the on the wagon already. This day has stalled seemingly waiting on a hammer and scum could easily get away with hammering with gaining at worst, only slight suspicion.
2: Maestro is scum and his buddy doesn't think bussing him will get him (or her...looking at you PM) enough town cred at this time. Possibly waiting on someone to take heat off Maestro.

We obviously believe number 2 to be the most likely.

Maestro: What is your number 1 reason for thinking we are scum? Who would our partner be and what makes you come to that conclusion?

Axxle: Why do you think Maestro is town?

Venmar: Same to you, why is Maestro town?

[CryoChemist]

No one wants to sheep Majiffy anymore.

We'd totally sheep you if we didn't get there 1st. We can UnVote and reVote if you'd like, though!

[Majiffy]

Ooh, ooh! Do it, do it!

[Venmar]

His claim is a town one. Not only do I SERIOUSLY doubt a scum could formulate a role like the one Maestro claimed, but his play right now is similar to Meta Mafia in terms of activity and content, and he was town in that game.

[CryoChemist]

UnVote

VOTE: Maestro

We were torn on the MaestroWagon, but this shit is solid Town posting if we've ever read it.

Vote:Maestro

[Venmar]

[CryoChemist]

His claim is a town one. Not only do I SERIOUSLY doubt a scum could formulate a role like the one Maestro claimed, but his play right now is similar to Meta Mafia in terms of activity and content, and he was town in that game.

...Do you think his claim would be a scum claim or something? Also, let look at the 2 claims side by side.

claim: "town communicator"

I allow a pro-town group to communicate with each other. If I die then that group can NOT continue to talk.

My assumption was that ranger and hunter were different. Sense both flipped town I realized that one of them was probably the group that I was protecting. Thus my Power role speculation.

I'm the Lansdown Armorer, as long as I live my passive ability allows others to keep fighting

that's why I believed CooLDog and I said that when I said I believed him

obviously the partner is setting me up, but I'm V/LA this weekend so this's kindof all I can offer

Both are passive and unprovable.

Do you not think scum could have formulated these fake claims to claim they believe the other's claim when the time came? We, for one, find it very suspicious that they are both very similar and unprovable. They both looked like AtF claims as in, 'if you lynch us you won't be able to fight dragons anymore'....

Thoughts?

[Venmar]

CooLDog claimed his role AFTER he learned that there was a mason group? How do you think he made his claim?

This isn't the case with Maestro.

[CryoChemist]

Alright Venmar, let's say he isn't full of it. Who's scum? Since we are using a hypothetical, you use one as well. Put away your notion of us being scum and tell us the 2 remaining scum and a 3rd if you are wrong on 1. (IE. Your top 3 scum suspects that are under the assumption that we are town).

[Venmar]

If you're town, then chances are BBMola is scum. Pirate Mollie and Axxle are also suspicious.

I'd go BBMola --> Pirate Mollie --> Axxle

This is assuming you're town.

[Majiffy]

UnVote

VOTE: Maestro

We were torn on the MaestroWagon, but this shit is solid Town posting if we've ever read it.

Vote:Maestro

This isn't the case with Maestro.

Elaborate. I see a pretty clear line with Maestro's role and an already claimed role.

[Venmar]

Which one?

[CryoChemist]

If you're town, then chances are BBMola is scum. Pirate Mollie and Axxle are also suspicious.

I'd go BBMola --> Pirate Mollie --> Axxle

This is assuming you're town.

We would like to hear your reasons for BB and PM. The head who is iffy on PM is on atm so I'm curious to see if you are seeing what I'm feeling.

[Axxle]

His claim is a town one. Not only do I SERIOUSLY doubt a scum could formulate a role like the one Maestro claimed

This doesn't make any sense. Cooldog formulated a very similar role. (PEdit: What Cryo said)

Axxle: Why do you think Maestro is town?Why do you think Maestro is town?

Mostly he's behaving differently than a previous game where I played with him when he was scum. He was a leader there. He also started the game very uninterested, similar to a game I was in with him where he flaked out of disinterest. This isn't too powerful of a read, I think how he dismissed the CD wagon seemed too easy but he's come up with a very similar role that might explain it.

I'm actually wondering if he would softclaim like that as town, I would think he'd fullclaim or just say he had reasons to believe the claim. I'll get back to you on that.

Right now the thing that strikes me as pretty scummy is that he's mostly attacking people on his wagon and is trying to please people who have indicated they want to hammer (me and mollie). It seems to survivalist to be town.

@Mollie: What about maestro's posting is town flail as opposed to scum flail?

PEdit: Venmar, Maestro's roleclaim is vague enough that it could be talking about a lot of different things (vig, lynching, voting). He doesn't really need a hard claim for it unlike CD's

[Venmar]

Someone had to bus CooLDog, if it wasn't you, it was probably BBMola.

PM's declaration to hammer was completely unnecessary, considering Maestro already claimed long before that, PM stating intention just looked a lot like him trying to make sure if anybody had a problem with him hammering. Kind of trying to make sure he wouldn't get crushed a long with Maestro for hammering.