Open 485: Polygamist Mafia - GAME OVER

[leviathan93]

Ffer: Orcinus and TAM's interactions sort of remind me of how TAM went after Luisss in our game with him... the whole going after a suspicious player who posts a lot thing. We know how that turned out, of course, but I'm not certain that this isn't a thing town!TAM would do.

Marangal's post strikes me as a bit contrived... did she really need to mention Levi by name in that post?? Couldn't she have just said "Hey, lover: don't get yourself lynched on D1 like you always do" or something to that extent. Would like to see her post more before putting her down as town, because that first post alone is NLS to me.

I don't have to explain how I am going about things, that would give scum an opportunity to adjust. If you don't like how I am going about things then vote me, but I think my strategy is already starting to work.

Faux pressure on orc, but no votes. So I apply real pressure and vote him, and yet still those who applied pressure don't want votes on him. Gee I wonder why.

Faux pressure would certainly be the word to describe no vote and a case consisting of the phrase "you are scum".

honestly, i agree that would have been smarter, but as of our games that we played together, i doubt she would have wanted to take the chance of having to explain that too the rest of y'all. y'all would have ripped that one to bits and probably lynched us right off the bat as mr. Fuzu is doing for orc. =/

[leviathan93]

I have a question for you FFerllyt. Why have numerous of your posts led your focus to be on TAM? you mention him a lot. any particular reason?

[leviathan93]

Well no shit in one way or another it appears that Levi is a lover of yours, you are using wifom to make an absolute statement that you are town lovers though. This is my big problem with this, in no way does this make you town.

So now I want Klick to explain why you are town.

Pre Edit: And know you are fishing for lover claims? I am speaking direct to Klick for various reasons, one of which being I think you and him may be scum lovers together. Secondary reason he is the one player I have lots of experience playing with. Work with what you know I always say.

question. was the last part directed at marangal? and also how is she fishing for lover claims if it is? also why WOULD scum fish for lover claims they already know who the lovers are and that doesn't help them any.

I would believe that they are trying to keep them hidden so they have an easier time getting town to lynch town.

[Ms Marangal]

Well no shit in one way or another it appears that Levi is a lover of yours, you are using wifom to make an absolute statement that you are town lovers though. This is my big problem with this, in no way does this make you town.

So now I want Klick to explain why you are town.

Pre Edit: And know you are fishing for lover claims? I am speaking direct to Klick for various reasons, one of which being I think you and him may be scum lovers together. Secondary reason he is the one player I have lots of experience playing with. Work with what you know I always say.

question. was the last part directed at marangal? and also how is she fishing for lover claims if it is? also why WOULD scum fish for lover claims they already know who

the

THEIR lovers are and that doesn't help them any.

I would believe that they are trying to keep them hidden so they have an easier time getting town to lynch town.

FTFY <3

but you do have a point, scum have no reason to fish out who is lover with who. It's town who wants to know who is the possible 4-lovers group

Fuduzn?

[fferyllt]

Town has 2 lynches to get this right. One mistake. Scum can't afford even one mistake. There are going to be a lot of need-to-survive tells today.

So brash votes suggest scum rather than town?

Or maybe caution.

I have a question for you FFerllyt. Why have numerous of your posts led your focus to be on TAM? you mention him a lot. any particular reason?

TAM and Voodoo Lady are familiar to me from my first game here. I am hoping that I can get a good read on both of them fairly quickly. TAM has come up as suspicious to other players, so that made him a bit of a priority.

I was thinking last night that once I was caught up on sleep it's time to pull back and take a wider view.

[fferyllt]

@Fu:

Your concern of Levi is genuine, and that post was made after I checked my QT and saw it was locked.

This is the post in which my townread of Marangal is summed up. Mostly the part about her knowing that the QTs being locked without it ever being explicitly stated anywhere.

Do you still think this was a good basis for a townread?

[fferyllt]

@Nekoko:

Orc is actually a stronger townread than Marangal/Levi.

You haven't really explained why you feel pretty strongly that Orc is town right now.

[Klick]

@Fu:

Your concern of Levi is genuine, and that post was made after I checked my QT and saw it was locked.

This is the post in which my townread of Marangal is summed up. Mostly the part about her knowing that the QTs being locked without it ever being explicitly stated anywhere.

Do you still think this was a good basis for a townread?

Yup.

@Nekoko:

Orc is actually a stronger townread than Marangal/Levi.

You haven't really explained why you feel pretty strongly that Orc is town right now.

Okay.

[fferyllt]

Nekoko

totally

needs to post.

VL is probably my second pick for scum at the moment.

Could you elaborate on VL?

[fferyllt]

It's kinda bugging me for some reason that Messiah still has his RVS vote on KBW.

But, it's also kinda bugging me that KBW hasn't really posted anything of substance yet. V/LA noted.

Nekoko's one post was substantive, but...one post.

[FuDuzn]

Basically, I just believe that in a game where scum cannot buss that we can't scum hunt like normal, to easy to be led astray. I feel like direct pressure and reaction(especially secondary and tertiary) tests are the way to go.

For instance, people were all over orc but with no votes. I voted him and votes didn't exactly pile on from the people pressuring him. Seems a bit fishy.

I will say though the votes that have come have recently made me think. Both Tam's and Nek's votes seem a bit opportunistic, and Nek's town read based does make me scratch my head. I know I am not scum, but I will admit I don't appear to be overly townie as well.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

@Nekoko:

Orc is actually a stronger townread than Marangal/Levi.

You haven't really explained why you feel pretty strongly that Orc is town right now.

Really.

And I asked you for your reads in case you missed it

Fudu:

Faux pressure on orc, but no votes. So I apply real pressure and vote him, and yet still those who applied pressure don't want votes on him. Gee I wonder why.

Who specifically are you referring to here because I don't think you've been reading the thread

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Hi Orc ^.^

What's Fudu?

[Klick]

You mean, town or scum? I'm leaning town right now, not too sure though.

[fferyllt]

@Nekoko:

Orc is actually a stronger townread than Marangal/Levi.

You haven't really explained why you feel pretty strongly that Orc is town right now.

Really.

Not that I saw on reread this morning.

And I asked you for your reads in case you missed it
[/quote]
I saw the question, but thought it was directed at VL.

As far as reads go, I'm not quite as gung ho that VL is town now. The suspicion TAM has drawn is reasonable given his posts. But, I don't have him down as town. He's another research project.

Right now I think Klick is my strongest town read. I think you are probably town due to your reactiveness, but I have you down as a past-games research project that I'll get to this weekend. FuDuzn's aggressiveness looks town. Ms Marinal's play looks town and if so, then Leviathan is also town.

And I think that could be wrong about at least one of you.

The player who is bothering me most right now is KBW, but I'll give him time to put down some non-fluff posts when he returns on Sunday.

[fferyllt]

quote tag fail.

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 1.6

[L-7] Ms Marangal:

[L-6] The Acting Method: (orcinus_theoriginal)

[L-7] FuDuzn:

[L-7] JKMatthews:

[L-7] Klick:

[L-5] Keybladewielder: (Klick, Messiah)

[L-6] Messiah: (Keybladewielder)

[L-7] leviathan93:

[L-7] Nekoko:

[L-4] orcinus_theoriginal: (FuDuzn, The Acting Method, Nekoko)

[L-7] fferyllt:

[L-6] Voodoo Lady: (JKMatthews)

Not Voting:

4 (Ms Marangal, leviathan93, fferyllt, Voodoo Lady)

• With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch.
  
• Day One's deadline: April 9, 2013 CST or in (expired on 2013-04-09 17:30:00).
  
• V/LA: Keybladewielder ((expired on 2013-03-24 00:00:00))

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[TraceyLyn11]

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[TraceyLyn11]

Svenskt Stål replaces JKMatthews. Welcome him!

[Svenskt Stål]

[Ms Marangal]

hey there Sven, nice seeing you again.

[Svenskt Stål]

Its been to long.

Has anyone made the correlation between the theme and and somewhat heavy girl to boy ratio, if not HEYOOOO.

[Ms Marangal]

... we only have 3 girls, how is that a heavy G:B ratio?

but I doubt that there is a correlation, and I believe that the lovers are randomly assigned. besides, it's luck that we ended up having three girls play in this game..

[Svenskt Stål]

This dude is happy if there is one girl in a 17er, 3 in 12 is a party. Anywho, it was a immature joke on my part.

Ms Marangal, could you provide me with the most important happenings of the game so far? That way tommorow when I read the game I can get a feel for how alike or unlike we are.

Also, I have a plan but I dont know if its allowed or have been discussed so I will take that tommorow aswell.

[Svenskt Stål]

Allright, well the plan is this.

Everyone will out who their partner is. Partner confirms. This gives us 6 teams of 2.

The benfits of this is that if player A is having a tough game then his partner, player B might be able to account for that and explain or clear up questions. I think this will overall lower the randomness of this setup, maybee just even slightly, but even so I dont see how the scums can exploit this in any way.

We also have a data miner in the lineup who might be able to shed some light on this.

I will await your thoughts until I out my partner.