Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[AngryPidgeon]

How about we just start abbreviating Knight of Cydonia to scum.
I feel more town about Cryo after 713. Mainly because they aren't really offering any opinions except that Im town which isn't exactly a way for them to avoid suspicion.
More scum about mollie now that I'm not the only one that sees it apparently.
KoC is the bet lynch - make it so.

[borkjerfkin]

VOTE: AP

I'm calling bullshit on 713 meaning anything to town-you.

I feel more town about Cryo after 713. Mainly because they aren't really offering any opinions except that Im town which isn't exactly a way for them to avoid suspicion.

Seriously this is awful.

[AngryPidgeon]

Once again, its what isn't in their response rather than what is.

@mastin: Im leaning town on GIF now. If I were you, I'd look into Majiffy in the future, if I turn up dead or whatever.

[Ms Marangal]

Metal Sonic isn't in here? I must be mixing up games

Jiffy isn't scum either AP

[borkjerfkin]

But pretty much that. CN is openly playing anti-town if he is town, so you know. Not a bad lynch either way.

Seriously, how is #713 NOT just more of this (you say yourself it's not a good way to avoid suspicion, so you clearly don't think it's pro-town)? You're only ok with it now because it's buddyish toward you.

[AngryPidgeon]

Huh, I saw mastin lurking just a sec ago.

P-edit: Why not Marangal? I'll admit he is one of my 'on-the-fence' reads, but he should be considered down the line.

I'd much rather lynch KoC/Messiah/ANG right now.

P-edit:

[borkjerfkin]

P-edit:

I assume this is to me?

[Majiffy]

Needs moar AP votes.

[mastin2]

I really don't like this Cryo vote, I don't like most of the major wagons TBH, I can't find any real reason behind any of them. I'm more interested in Mac, KoC, and Goat, KoC is at the top. Not sure about qwints, and I'm defintely feeling iffy about AANero

:scumposting:

Nero, Majiffy, trust me. AP's town.

I'll burn in hell if I'm wrong. Guaranteed. AP's town. So don't diss the Cryo wagon because of AP's switch, when mine was not only nearly identical, but arguably worse.

[Angelious Nero]

If this is AP town play then its horrible. If this is AP town play I'm going to yell at you. Remember how in HP you were so sure that AP was town. How'd that work out?

[Piratecat]

AP so you are back on the Piratecat hydra is scum again crusade only because other people are starting to see it. Doesn't give a good feel about you. I still think you are town, but this seriously might put a hurt on that read. Sounds a lot like opportunism to me, to be frank.

[Majiffy]

Nero, Majiffy, trust me. AP's town.

I'll burn in hell if I'm wrong. Guaranteed. AP's town. So don't diss the Cryo wagon because of AP's switch, when mine was not only nearly identical, but arguably worse.

You also think Cryo and Mara are scum, two players I find town.

So... no?

[qwints]

Cyros' first mention of Messiah:

Can't argue the flow chart.

VOTE: Messiah

...Didn't we try and do this before the game even started?

An explicitly sheep vote. Not necessarily scummy, but apparently not an independent read nor enough to justify adding to the case.

Cyro's next post:

We are good with that. We'll go 1v1 with messia. Will help us get into this game.

This doesn't make sense as over-confident town at all. As far as I can tell, there's nothing suggesting relational tells between the two. Hence why I saw the scum motivation I did.

Was assuming a lynch of messiah would follow ours. I'll admit being wrong on that then.

Can either of you explain what made you make this assumption?

[Majiffy]

Mala get on the AP

wire

wagon.

[Piratecat]

Also I don't like Slandaar's nitpicking of my words to try and turn it into me being scum due to that. Scum will twist a meaning on purpose when it's not intended to be that purpose just to get eyes on that player and possibly a lynch drawn onto them.

[mastin2]

I'm giving MS Marangal the benefit of the doubt for the softclaim.

How would you know when is two days before lylo? Do we have a defined number of scums? 'Cause I don't know how many of them are out there.

Know, no. Know? Yes.

What I mean by this is--I've been in 100+ games. I know the math. I know balance. I've been involved in setup reviews before, and been on the receiving ends of them for games this size. I know how to crunch the numbers. So I know with relatively certain accuracy how many scum to expect. So depending on the number of average nightkills and depending on how many players are in the game, I can calculate what day would be lylo and go two days before then.

Which I can do on d2 after seeing how many deaths. There's a huge difference between one death at night and three. (Heck, if multiscum, with a SK, and a vig, it would *theoretically* be possible to have four, though that is of course an extreme rarity.)

[Piratecat]

I would like to talk it over with Mollie before I vote. Considering it would be 'bad' for me to vote someone that I still think is weak town regardless of what is coming out of his mouth.

[mastin2]

Huh, I saw mastin lurking just a sec ago.

I have more games in the Theme Park than just this one, you know.

Butyeah. Seriously, guys. AP's town, and if he's not, you can feel free to try and mislynch me.

[qwints]

Qwints, what is your read on me? I assume your rockhard AP tell has to do with me responding to pressure.

That was just a joke - if you use meta you're town, if you say meta is bs you're scum. But overall, I have a town read on you. I don't like Majiffy's interactions with obv-scum cyro either.

[Slandaar]

but this seriously might put a hurt on that read.

This might put a hurt on that read = Scum

It either did or it didn't there is no might.

[mastin2]

If this is AP town play then its horrible. If this is AP town play I'm going to yell at you. Remember how in HP you were so sure that AP was town. How'd that work out?

And I've gotten better at reading him since then. Trust me. While it's possible AP's scum, I really, REALLY think he's town. Like, 98%.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im not dwelling on hpatpl....REMEMBER HOW AP WAS SCUM IN HPATPL???

solid posting nero.

phone running out of batteries

Mollie needs to be vigged. Shes scum too.

[Majiffy]

I would like to talk it over with Mollie before I vote. Considering it would be 'bad' for me to vote someone that I still think is weak town regardless of what is coming out of his mouth.

[Piratecat]

Can you stop calling us Mollie when it's a hydra? The last posts haven't even been by Mollie. We're not scum.

Slandaar - it did put a hurt on the read, but I'm still clinging onto AP's town because I just have a gut-feel he's town rather then scum. Then we have my strong town read on Mastin and I am actually believing in what he's saying. So let's hope that doesn't come to bite me.

[mastin2]

Seriously, guys.
We had it.
We had. this game. in. the. bag.
I was getting ready in my mind for us to nom this game for a Best Performance: Town game, for us recognizing. who. is. town.
And building. off. of. that.
And. lynching. scum.
One. after. another.

But nooooo.
YOU HAVE TO GO ALL PARANOID ON ME.
Do NOT lose sight of the goal. AP's not a scumlynch.
Cryo is.

Stop sabotaging each other with your petty attacks, your doubt on one another, your references to previous games, and get back to what we WERE doing, solidifying our reads and narrowing down.

Honestly. It's like I'm the only voice of reason here. I leave for twelve hours, and there's five pages of bullshit paranoia.
AP's town.
Nero's town.
I'm town.
Slandaar's town.
Jiffy might be town.

Messiah and Cryo aren't.
So lynch scum.