Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I still think keyblade is scum.

Let's examine your case on keyblade for a bit:

Side note: I really don't like how in #41 Safety doesn't vote me, notices my behavior, then votes for me WITH THE EXACT SAME REASONING. I don't know why he waited, but it is nothing in and of itself.

Keyblade is acting pretty badly.

He gets into a breif flame war as soon as he is in the game, Talks about ongoing games, Continues this until page 5, where he votes for someone with a replacement, Then IMMEDIATLEY backslides and wails "why are you lynching meeee", and then tries to get Safety onto another wagon, following by saying there is no reasoning for his wagon, even though he stated "You're overreacting", which at this stage of the game is more then sufficient to warrant a vote.

VOTE: Keybladeweilder

Just outlining what he's done is not evidence of anything. What is the scum motivation behind doing the things he's done? Why is getting into a brief flame war scummy? Why is talking about ongoing games scummy? Why is whatever else scummy?

You have to demonstrate that keyblade is coming from a scum mindset.

[Ms Marangal]

I can however, say that Lurker is likely scummy.

at this point, He is, from my opinion, pushing an easy target, while keeping in the backgrounds. he doesn't seem to want to pick on some of the bigger targets, and while Key was pretty bad, he is taking what Key has done, and made it into something bigger

[RachMarie]

Lurker is scummy. Classic putting down a dude which is an easy target and may also be scum, but that has yet to be determined, and just does IioA as a case. That is not a case Lurker try again. Also I don't know the other head, but I have played in games with DGB and she is very good whether she is playing town or scum. BTW true fact: Most flame wars are started by Townies not scum. They often are T v T as well .

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Lurker

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Lurker is scummy. Classic putting down a dude which is an easy target and may also be scum, but that has yet to be determined, and just does IioA as a case. That is not a case Lurker try again. Also I don't know the other head, but I have played in games with DGB and she is very good whether she is playing town or scum. BTW true fact: Most flame wars are started by Townies not scum. They often are T v T as well .

Other head is Zoidberg. You and I played together in a game a few months ago.

[Revenus]

Lurker is scummy. Classic putting down a dude which is an easy target and may also be scum,

but that has yet to be determined,

and just does IioA as a case. That is not a case Lurker try again. Also I don't know the other head, but I have played in games with DGB and she is very good whether she is playing town or scum. BTW true fact: Most flame wars are started by Townies not scum. They often are T v T as well .

I really don't like this at all.

Especially the bolded part.

Two questions for you Rach


One;You don't think KBW's overreaction to getting voted was bad at all?
Two; you're going to have to specify what you mean by the bolded part.

[Revenus]

but I have played in games with DGB and she is very good whether she is playing town or scum.

I also don't like this at all. Zoidberg has now been asked to explain his stances and is actively refusing.
I don't like you excusing his play this game by mentioning one of the heads (DGB) is a "good player".
If you're not excusing the hydra's play with this, then I don't know why you bothered mentioning it because it feels like you're subtly trying to defend the fact that he hasn't been giving reasons for calling people scum.


KBW is scummy for his flame war, his terrible reaction to getting voted (he jumped and demanded reasons for getting voted while simultaneously voting me with no reason except that he doesn't like me while also claiming I was doing scummy things which he later retracted), and finally his switching to a more convenient wagon when people started questioning why he was voting so stupidly.

However

I will agree in principle that Lurker needs to step it up; he's so far just called KBW scummy while rehashing other people's cases on the dude, and also mentioned me as scum (not sure why, since he didn't explain, but ok). These are the only two people he's mentioned at all, besides for randomly addressing only kash at #211.


tl;dr They probably aren't both scum.

[RachMarie]

That is what I mean by yet to be determined Rev, I do not think they are likely to be scum buddies. I also doubt that both are town. Calling someone a good player BTW is not the same as defending them or saying they are town, in fact I have often been amazed at how well DGB is as scum. In other words, she is a good player when she is Town, and she is a good player when she is scum. Hope that makes it clearer.

A good player is someone to pay more attention to because it is harder to figure out what their alignment in a given game is.

[Xegarus]

Sorry mod, was busy and still am.
V/LA till Tuesday.

[RachMarie]

ohhh zoid the medical mafia game.... hmmm you were pretty good as the scum in that one if I remember right. I will have to watch the two of you rather carefully to be able to peg your alignment...

[Revenus]

That is what I mean by yet to be determined Rev, I do not think they are likely to be scum buddies. I also doubt that both are town. Calling someone a good player BTW is not the same as defending them or saying they are town, in fact I have often been amazed at how well DGB is as scum. In other words, she is a good player when she is Town, and she is a good player when she is scum. Hope that makes it clearer.

A good player is someone to pay more attention to because it is harder to figure out what their alignment in a given game is.

They *could* both be town. I really dislike when people set up two people as "one must be scum" because if you mislynch one person first, then it's easy to just say, well, then the other person's scum; it allows actual scum players to setup a mislynch down the road.

I'm not trying to excuse Lurker's behavior, but I don't want us to lynch KBW, have him flip town, then go "ok, well lurker is scum because xyz" and mislynch him too.

Therefore; lurker, I want reads on other players, and since you called me scum, I'd like to know why.

[SafetyDance]

I want to hear more from him before I do

Well fair enough, because No Lynch sure does deserve keeping your vote there. Nihilistic bastard that he is.

You think someone is scummy, you haven't voted since RVS, therefore where your vote should be is a no brainer. With two weeks to go and at L-3 there's absolutely no reason to be scared to place a vote on the wagon.

No town reason that is.

KBW is scummy for his flame war

, his terrible reaction to getting voted (he jumped and demanded reasons for getting voted while simultaneously voting me with no reason except that he doesn't like me while also claiming I was doing scummy things which he later retracted), and finally his switching to a more convenient wagon when people started questioning why he was voting so stupidly.

Fixed that. The first part only relevant as to why you don't like him.

Most of that is why my vote is still there. When he comes back, then we can gauge his reactions after he caught up.

Personally, I think it's lucky dip saying that Y is derpTown or X is derpTown. I don't really excuse people because of it.

[kashoodles]

V/LAing for rest of day.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The scum team is:

BEF/IMF
Revenus
Lurker

-DGB

[Revenus]

The scum team is:

BEF/IMF
Revenus
Lurker

-DGB

What happened to Hiraki-scum

;roll;

[Bacde]

@Rev, are you purposely playing to a different style than your usual meta?

Also, why aren't you voting for Xeg?

[Revenus]

@Rev, are you purposely playing to a different style than your usual meta?

Also, why aren't you voting for Xeg?

A. What are you even talking about? If I'm playing differently, I haven't noticed it.

B. Because I'd rather lynch KBW.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

What happened to Hiraki-scum

He's town now.

-DGB

[Revenus]

I'm also curious for Zoidberg's answer on Rev as scum.

Yeah I'm not sure I like their style of definitive reads on people with very little reason behind them. At least though they're making calls and we can easily go back to those posts if proved wrong or

their stances change for no reason at all.

I expect followup on this, SD

[SafetyDance]

Good to see you're reading Rev. Or are you?

Mod wrote:BrightEyedFish has also requested a replacement

if this doesn't scream nubscum

I wholeheartedly agree. Our vote is there, and we'll be keeping it there unless the other head has other plans.

-DGB

I don't know about yourself but I don't normally agree with people I find scummy.

So ten out of ten for style, but minus several million for good thinking.

[Revenus]

Good to see you're reading Rev. Or are you?

Mod wrote:BrightEyedFish has also requested a replacement

if this doesn't scream nubscum

I wholeheartedly agree. Our vote is there, and we'll be keeping it there unless the other head has other plans.

-DGB

I don't know about yourself but I don't normally agree with people I find scummy.

So ten out of ten for style, but minus several million for good thinking.

Thought he posted that he thought Hiraki was scum after that post.

Gonna have to go with a "my bad" here.

[SafetyDance]

Your bad what?

Your bad scum hunting ability? Your bad sentence constructions? Your bad case of hives? WHAT? I can't take the suspense!

[Revenus]

Is there a reason you're being such a dick?

[absta101]

Everyone's hating on Rev now?

@Rev - I'll protect you if you vote Xeg.

[IFM]

Sorry about the prod, too much basketball the last few days.

Hikari why am I basically confirmed scum because of BFE? You can't just assume that he was scum because of subbing out.

I'm going to leave my vote on KBW for now until he gets back from his V/LA.

I'll post some more stuff after the games tonight.