Open 485: Polygamist Mafia - GAME OVER

[fferyllt]

Via Process of Elimination, FuDuzn and Messiah have to be partners.

I actually think it's obviously FuDuzn-Messiah-TAM-KBW at this point.

agree.

[Voodoo Lady]

Re: the vote on claiming partners: Nekoko and I didn't talk very much while the QT was open, so we never got around to deciding when we should claim. I wanted to see what Nekoko said before we claimed. In hindsight I could have said "If my partner's ok with it, then sure" or something.

Ffer: Orcinus and TAM's interactions sort of remind me of how TAM went after Luisss in our game with him... the whole going after a suspicious player who posts a lot thing. We know how that turned out, of course, but I'm not certain that this isn't a thing town!TAM would do.

Marangal's post strikes me as a bit contrived... did she really need to mention Levi by name in that post?? Couldn't she have just said "Hey, lover: don't get yourself lynched on D1 like you always do" or something to that extent. Would like to see her post more before putting her down as town, because that first post alone is NLS to me.

I don't have to explain how I am going about things, that would give scum an opportunity to adjust. If you don't like how I am going about things then vote me, but I think my strategy is already starting to work.

Faux pressure on orc, but no votes. So I apply real pressure and vote him, and yet still those who applied pressure don't want votes on him. Gee I wonder why.

Faux pressure would certainly be the word to describe no vote and a case consisting of the phrase "you are scum"

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^^ Who did this?

This is in response to Fuduzn's """"pressuring"""" of Orci... I thought that was obvious given that I was replying to his quote.

Rereading Ms M's ISO... that first post is still a bit odd to me, but she's been very active and questioning while not making any scumslips or anything.

Levi on the other hand is a bit more suspicious.

You haven't really explained why you think Fferyllt might be scum, and your argument for TAM being scum is that he seems too town.

But most suspicious of all right now is Fuduzn, whose playstyle is aggressive with zero substance. I think he's the most likely to be scum out of everyone here.

VOTE: Fuduzn

^^ I'd like to know which of Levi's posts prompted the bolded comments.

In his first post he says that TAM and Fferyllt are suspicious, and he says that he's suspicious of them in his third post as well. Which led me to think he had scumreads on them.

Would like to see Messiah make a post, especially given that he has me listed as a scumread... if FuDuzn and Messiah are paired though it's highly likely they're mafia together.

Not so certain on KBW and TAM being scum, but KBW/TAM/Messiah/FuDuzn being the scumteam would explain post 30.

[Svenskt Stål]

The idea behind 2 wagons is that it is a tool. It makes it no more likely or unlikely to catch a mafia today. HOWEVER, if we miss a two wagon system will allow information gathering tommorow, yes I can see us losing some control but that loss of control should be noticeable on a reread if we miss.

Say that we catch both mafia teams, how do you expect them to behave? What if we catch 0 mafia teams?

It will surely look diffrent, think about some.

[Svenskt Stål]

Its 4.30 am here, I am not making sense.

[Svenskt Stål]

VOTE: FUDUZN

[fferyllt]

@ VL

Re "pressuring" FuDuzn voted for orc in his post 122. His vote had been down for a while when you made the "pressuring" comment, which is why I wasn't positive you meant him, even though you were addressing him.

Re Leviathan, I thought his first post was kinda luke-warm, not quite a FoS. But the third post was more emphatic.

[fferyllt]

The idea behind 2 wagons is that it is a tool. It makes it no more likely or unlikely to catch a mafia today. HOWEVER, if we miss a two wagon system will allow information gathering tommorow, yes I can see us losing some control but that loss of control should be noticeable on a reread if we miss.

Say that we catch both mafia teams, how do you expect them to behave? What if we catch 0 mafia teams?

It will surely look diffrent, think about some.

if we do this, who do you think the second bandwagon should be on?

I'm thinking KBW.

In fact, I'll go ahead and put a vote there.

VOTE: KBW

Messiah is on that bandwagon with me.

[FuDuzn]

Yes Messiah is my lover.

And Klick, I guess the streak continues? You seem to always try to lead as scum, and no real substance why, but I can tell Klick doesn't really feel I am scum.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Klick:

I'm busy today but my opinion is that Nekoko and Fudu OMGUS'd my TAM attack.

TAM is the connecting piece on the scum team.

I don't like the Fudu lynch because I think he could be town for his aggressiveness.

But if he's scum, hell be scum with TAM.

If KBW is scum, hell be scum with TAM.

TAM is the connecting piece here.

[FuDuzn]

So Orc, stupid question incoming, TAM lynch a go?

[Klick]

Yes Messiah is my lover.

And Klick, I guess the streak continues? You seem to always try to lead as scum, and no real substance why, but I can tell Klick doesn't really feel I am scum.

Yeah, no. This is retarded.

I've made it incredibly obvious that I see Marangal as town.
Sven's opening post was really good, and fferyllt has been pro-town all game.
fferyllt's point on VL is good and means that her lover pair is probably town.

Which leaves you/Messiah and TAM/KBW. And reading my posts, there's no way this wasn't clear.

@orc: I'm willing to lynch them if FuDuzn/Messiah doesn't come around for some reason. KBW is the actual wagon, though. And I'm pretty sure FuDuzn is scum.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Not KBW, Nekoko.

Yes I want you to lynch TAM.

EDIT klick how sure

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Because you know I'll sheep you on it if you ask me to but I'm seeing TAM as safest lynch from my POV

[Voodoo Lady]

@ VL

Re "pressuring" FuDuzn voted for orc in his post 122. His vote had been down for a while when you made the "pressuring" comment, which is why I wasn't positive you meant him, even though you were addressing him.

I missed his vote initially and he didn't correct me afterwards so I assumed he hadn't voted until I saw the updated vote count. Whoops.

I'm not 100% sure of Marangal/Levi being town, though. I'd be cool with a TAM lynch, though I'd like KBW to post first before we do.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: KBW

[FuDuzn]

Orc, he isn't sure at all.

And Klick, so you do like to lead as scum?
VOTE: TAM

[Klick]

I have townreads on literally every pair but his and TAM's. The only possible team that doesn't include him is VL/Nekoko and TAM/Keyblade, and that's neglecting my townread on VL. Meanwhile, FuDuzn is flailing.

PEdit: FuDuzn, a KBW lynch is a TAM lynch.

[Klick]

And I have a different strategy for every scum game in order to not be caught by meta.

[FuDuzn]

What the? I swear there was a Klick post that just disappeared.

[Klick]

?

[Klick]

@FuDuzn: If you're town, and I'm town, who's scum?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah but TAM flailed earlier

[Svenskt Stål]

The idea behind 2 wagons is that it is a tool. It makes it no more likely or unlikely to catch a mafia today. HOWEVER, if we miss a two wagon system will allow information gathering tommorow, yes I can see us losing some control but that loss of control should be noticeable on a reread if we miss.

Say that we catch both mafia teams, how do you expect them to behave? What if we catch 0 mafia teams?

It will surely look diffrent, think about some.

if we do this, who do you think the second bandwagon should be on?

I'm thinking KBW.

In fact, I'll go ahead and put a vote there.

VOTE: KBW

Messiah is on that bandwagon with me.

That would be interesting to say the least. Overall thou I think you have a better grasp on everyone than me, so I´d follow you, but as some have stated kbw,messiah, fuduzn and tam is probably where I am at.

[FuDuzn]

Nvm, there was just a flurry of posts in my pre edit.
VOTE: KBW
Drunken eyes take a bit to catch up. Plus orc wanted a TAM vote, so I obliged.

Pre Edit: Messiah(obv), Orc, Marangal, and probably Sven. And it seems obvious I don't think you are town Klick.

[FuDuzn]

Who is your 'lover' Klick?