/in-vitational 12: Mafia in #YOLOville - All wrapped up!

[Tammy]

Tammy, the activity based paranoia is ridiculous, it's fuckign great and fantastic and lovely that you've managed to find the time to post more than i do but i can't keep up the activity that I used to and the fact that i still manage to make time for this game by posting during fucking class. and to be honest, i feel like this has been my single most obvtown game in mafia unless yopu suddenly think i became god tier at scum so the paranoia makes no sense from someone who should be able to read me. and despite being sduper busy i'm still among the most prolific posters in the thread. so fuck that noise. (also i'm posting while drunk, i think this should p much make me IC-tier town).

Let me have my paranoia; it will work itself out. For you it's not activity based and my paranoia is in the green zone. The paranoia is mostly about Tierce...that's probably orange.

[Tammy]

But empire your whole post made me laugh, and you know what that means anyway.

[Zachrulez]

Vote: Benmage

No question this is today's lynch.

Why Benmage?

[Tierce]

If I have to fight activity based paranoia after Mini 1333, War is Hell and goodness knows however many more Town games, I'll cry. Tammy, in the last 25 days, I got myself to Paris and back, got a visa, spent time in Lisbon with my fiance, moved to the US with him and all my belongings, celebrated his birthday, spent time with the family and married him. You have your waffles, I'll decide where my priorities lie when spending not-stress-the-hell-out time. This is the first day in many that I'm not freaking out over government stuff, because we have to wait on a letter to proceed and things are out of my hands. Today was me finally *relaxing*, and I'll be damned if your paranoia goes into orange mode when I have actually, finally managed to make time for this game because the other half works tomorrow night and I will have time alone to focus.

/phone rant

[Zachrulez]

See, I'd just prefer to accept that Tierce, Empire, and Tammy are all town. That shrinks the lynch pool to a much more manageable level... and you know that would be awesome.

[Tierce]

See, I'd just prefer to accept that Tierce, Empire, and Tammy are all town. That shrinks the lynch pool to a much more manageable level... and you know that would be awesome.

We are, and really obviously so at that, and that's why I'm pissed off at her pancakes and waffles and sillynoia.

[Tammy]

See, I'd just prefer to accept that Tierce, Empire, and Tammy are all town. That shrinks the lynch pool to a much more manageable level... and you know that would be awesome.

We are, and really obviously so at that, and that's why I'm pissed off at her pancakes and waffles and sillynoia.

Okay, I'm good. Heads on straight...well sort of. You know what I mean. Sorry for the dip in sanity. Congratulations by the way!

[Shadoweh]

Oh yeah, that's what I meant. He could have left a message with the mod to pass along, so he wouldn't get stuck in that position.
Shadoweh, do you mean the image of him throwing down his microphone? He was basically saying, "I'm done here"!
But yeah, the hammer was odd.

I don't think I've heard of any mods letting you send messages to replacements. You said 'reason why he tracked Empire', he wasn't a tracker dear.

Also Empire talking about a voting block like it was his idea deserves a kick in the teeth. Activity does seem to be a scumtell for you, you only posted 23 times in Triplicate as scum. And none of that has any clue as to why you forgot your totes scum read yesterday. I am willing to wait until you aren't drunk to reply.

Tierce how can you be so sure right now that Town is being led in the right direction when it's gone face first into nowhere while led by the Townest?

[Shadoweh]

Lynching everyone whose convenient so no one has to think about their reads is the warcry of the scum and I have had enough about it. Whatever you're all smoking has maybe PR's being prioritized over you and has you flopping at the last minute on town lynches that don't have much basis in the wagons of the day, IE wagon analysis based on motives becomes impossible. Meanwhile despite his reaction being to roll over and take a fricking longer nap no one cares about lynching one specific person and the response of people today is pretty much WHO AM I KIDDING YOU DIDN'T EVER ACKNOWLEDGE ANYTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE

[Tierce]

Tierce how can you be so sure right now that Town is being led in the right direction when it's gone face first into nowhere while led by the Townest?

I didn't say anything about Town going in the right direction. And I pretty much loathe everything about Post 1232, by the by.

[Shadoweh]

Oh, are you going to tell me why? Does it make me sound like I'm not invested somehow, like I'm not INCREDIBLY ANGRY at how badly this is going for us? Do you just not like it because I'm not kissing your fake hydra buddy who could possibly be scum's toes enough? Am I interupting your pow wow? At least Tammy's waffling shows she's thinking about what's going on instead of marching blissfully pretending we still have a solid town core when that would mean the entire town core is happily mislynching everyone!

[Zachrulez]

This game's had two lynches.

Let's keep things down on the ground at least rather than all the way up in exaggeration land.

[Shadoweh]

As far as I'm concerned it's had two and 6/7ths. Though perhaps I will go watch more ponies and calm down, that came off as more offended then I should have. A town that isn't motivated to do things different is a town that settles into the easily coraled path of losing. Not everyone has the luxury to relax until they're nightkilled like you do right now.

[Tierce]

...Did I even ever sit down and discuss things with Empire yet, Shadoweh? If he's not obvTown to you, feel free to show

why

, because frankly, to me Empire is the Towniest person in the game right now, and as I said before, yes, I want to work with him, especially since I have a lot to catch up and review at the moment, and I'd like to know whether we are on the same page.

Your post is bad for other reasons, namely how superficial the nitpicking is. Empire

is

lurkerish as scum, but so am I, and yet he has every right and a lot of evidence given in previous months that he WOULD be busy during this time. Going "oh you just posted X times in a game as scum" like it means anything is completely empty with no analysis of the reasons behind the inactivity in Town/scum games, and the reply to Tammy didn't please me at a tonal level.


Post 1236 from Zach is excellent regardless of Shadoweh's alignment.

[Zachrulez]

I wish I knew like... anything about Shadoweh's meta, but the reaction to the town lynches was way over the top. I'm invoking Wiki tells here, but yeah... blegh.

[Zachrulez]

Would you have killed a cop over someone who possibly isn't a PR?

They aimed for a possible PR last time

, and this one was on someone worth NKing regardless. It's not always that simple. Also it was a roleblock Tammy, but I'm not sure how you could or whether you'd want to leave a trail of that.

Despite my lowly white girl brainstorming efforts I wasn't able to contextulize the rap about why everyone should lynch Benmage properly in my head. Am I the only one who thinks his hammer was scummy? Along with his ignoring of the burdening wagon on him, and the lame vote on OGML who wasn't close to taking off that day which kept people from noticing they were handing the hammer vote to the other lynchee?

Did we establish for certain that Johhog was the scum kill, and further that the kill was intended to power role hunt? I mean, I'm kinda in that spot in terms of making the leap on speculation, but what blew me away was the way you stated that as a certainty.

[Shadoweh]

You can find what I've said on the subject easily enough. The others would prefer not to talk about who shot who N1. Suffice it to say I think you need to be deranged to think it happened the other way. If you want to know about my meta I hear Mafiastuck and A Dance with Dragons are good reading material. Short version: Being scum makes me sleepy, being town makes me loud and insane.

Tierce, I've stated what I want to hear from Empire, it's the same thing I asked yesterday. On lurking, I didn't say he was doing the same thing in this game, just that it was something I noted while reading his scum game. And from the sounds of it you just don't like my tone period. Did you lose your whimsy regarding Benmage overnight?

[Tierce]

I have plenty of whimsy about Benmage and plenty of whimsy toward you. What's your rush, Miss OMG The Pseudo Town Core Is Rushing Us To A Loss?

[Shadoweh]

I'm impatient to get answers to my questions instead of the runaround. Are you implying that that's somehow scummy of me now too?

[Tierce]

The concept of "tomorrow" seems a bit hard to grasp.

[Llamarble]

Who did Zach replace again? Right Wjr. Oh he's confirmed vanilla. Still seems scummy though.
We are pretty far behind in terms of living power, but we're basically 3:10 -> d1 mislynch in terms of deaths, so we can definitely recover and are probably a little ahead overall if we lynch scum today.
The living:
me
Trio of presumed (if one is scum I will blame the others) town:
Tierce / Empire / Tammy
The vanilla claims:
Zach, Shadoweh
Shadoweh is still playing a good game if scum. Zach I could go either way on but his vanillaness helps him.
Folk of the Fringe:
OGML, DV
OGML slot I don't have big issues with; N did a solid though annoying job if scum and OGML would be pretty cheeky too.
DV may have to go through the airlock sometime though.
There must be some scum here:
CES, Benmage, Nacho

[DeasVail]

dv could be like that dude in 90s sitcoms whos like the featured ghuest and shit since i think he's town but im getting a bit paranoid

I'll work my way to a starring role one day!

Anyway, I was hoping to get to this tonight, but I'm in an 'able to read but not

read

' mode right now, so I'll have to apologise once again and ask if I can sort out my reads on Tuesday or Wednesday.

I think I'll try going over everyone, but for now I'm happy with Empire/Tierce/Tammy/Zach/Llama/Shadoweh (she might need a reread though) as town. I mean, OGML could even be there based on N's play possibly, but I haven't really made much attempt to read him lately so he won't for now. Llama and Shadoweh are still a tier below the others, but from what I've read, they have seemed very town to me. (Shadoweh mostly recently)

CES, Benmage, Nacho I obviously need to look at.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Who did Zach replace again? Right Wjr. Oh he's confirmed vanilla. Still seems scummy though.

The specifics of the result also confirm him as town.

Vote: OGML

[Faraday]

Day 3, Votecount 1

Cogito Ergo Sum (2) - Tammy, Zachrulez
Benmage (2) - Shadoweh, OhGodMyLife
OhGodMyLife (1) - Cogito Ergo Sum

Not voting (6) :

Benmage, Deasvail, Empire, Llamarble, Nachomamma8, Tierce

• With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 7th of April at 3:59am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-04-06 23:59:59)
  
• Benmage is V/la

[Empire]

Ok, remind me to never post again while drunk, those were really bad posts.

Shadoweh, I answered your question already at the end of the last Day. Bottom line is that I don't have any confident scumreads. The only read I have that is even close to a scumread right now is the N/OGML slot and even then I've been waffling on it due to the slot's interactions with CTD and N's replace out. I've made this pretty damn clear to anyone who actually bothers to read my posts.

As for activity being a scum tell for me, guess what? I've posted 92 times this game despite this game having only just started Day 3 with two week deadlines, which is over 3 times as much as my posting rate in Triplicate (29 times) and Masquerade Ball (33 times). The bottom line is that I'm actually genuinely busy, I'm only about a month away from graduating law school and there's a lot of shit that needs to be done in order for that to happen. And despite all this, I

still

manage to make time to think about this game and post in it. So don't give me this complete bullshit about how I haven't been efforting or not thinking about the game.

Like Zach said, we're only two lynches into this game with a scum down. I'm not "blissfully marching through this game" as anyone who's actually taken the time to, you know, read my posts would be able to decipher. I'm not going to all of a sudden second guess my strong townreads on two of the players I feel the most capable of reading probably far better than anyone on the site just because we got it wrong. That'd be fucking stupid of me to do so.

~~~

Tierce, wanna talk about Benmage? Where is your suspicion of him coming from and have you ever played with scum-Benmage before?