Open 485: Polygamist Mafia - GAME OVER

[Svenskt Stål]

Now if my questions could be adressed at some point that would move this in the positive direction, since time is of the essance for one of you.

THoughts on the posts that I qouted, who are your suspects, and what do you think of tam/blade?

[fferyllt]

Messiah, which pairs do you think are scum?

[Messiah]

I haven't really read anything since my post on page 5 and the most recent two pages. My reading will have to wait until a little later, I'm busyish working right now. Who are the pairs? And why is Sven in a hurry?

[Klick]

See the problem is that Klick plays exactly the same whether town or scum, he is a good player.

I know I said he was scum, again reaction testing, but please do not jump to a conclusion that he is town so soon.

I have been on both sides with him, fun to watch as scum actually.

Actually, this isn't completely true. The thing similar with all of my games is that I attempt to play many different styles to fit the game, as both alignments. I'm also a bit rusty as far as scum play goes because I haven't played in awhile. In less than a day, I'll have a game as proof to this.

Also, the first two lines don't match up. Why would you reaction test me if I play exactly the same as either alignment?

[fferyllt]

You want to see "hurry", read last night's bandwagon excitement.

Teams (in the order we outed IIRC):
Ms Marangal/Leviathan
svenskt/ferryllt
Voodoo Lady/Nekoko
klick/orc
FuDuzn/Messiah

[Klick]

Nah, TAM was after us.

[Messiah]

I'm townreading the sven/ffery(mostly this half) pair and the Ms Marangal/Lev pair strongly. Weaker but still decent townread on the Klick/Orc pair.

That leaves VL/Nekoko and TAM/KBW, and I was already leaning towards the three(minus nekoko, I don't remember any of her posts) of them anyway. That works out nicely.

[fferyllt]

Nah, TAM was after us.

Yeah, I missed TAM/KBW.

Teams (in the order we outed IIRC):
Ms Marangal/Leviathan
svenskt/ferryllt
Voodoo Lady/Nekoko
klick/orc
TAM/KBW
FuDuzn/Messiah

[fferyllt]

Ok so it's time for my paranoid freakout. I'm going to put it out here and see what comes of it.

The strong town reads on me are gratifying and all, but I don't think they are as well earned as all that. If I were making a case on someone else based on the posts I've made in this thread (and that JKMatthews made) I could build a credible case for caution.

So, all these town reads, are nice, but some of them are dead certain to be from scum players. Why not hedge a bit and keep me in the frame as a lynch potentiality?

My theory: it looks like I might help cause a mislynch.

[fferyllt]

Ms Maringal gets some additional town points for keeping me in the frame.

[Svenskt Stål]

Thats a paranoia freakout allright, dont get us killed.

I dont see the problem, if you have townreads from more than two teams townies find you townie, mafia sponges reads. Just ignore who thinks what about you and dont add it into your calculation.

[fferyllt]

Thats a paranoia freakout allright, dont get us killed.

I dont see the problem, if you have townreads from more than two teams townies find you townie, mafia sponges reads. Just ignore who thinks what about you and dont add it into your calculation.

hush, you.

[leviathan93]

uhhh. Marangal? why do you think fferyllt and sven aren't town? i want to know the answer to this as well. isn't it kind of obvious? =/

also yeah, all the random posting when it was night wasn't very helpful. I just had to catch up on 7 pages and most of it wasn't really worthy of scum hunting.

I still think fuduzn is scummy. I like messiah's entrance into the game. FINALLY. don't like that he hadn't posted since page 5 or earlier though. not necessarily an obvi scum move though. said he is busy. so ok I guess. I just hope his game picks up better in the future or I am definitely going to think they are a scum pair. even though I do now because of fuduzn.

I would think the KBW and TAM pair are scummy just because they don't seem helpful or putting their input much anymore. yes one of them was V/LA but still. this game is moving pretty fast and needs everyone focused. I originally thought something was off about TAM. which leads me to put them in the scum pile currently.

[fferyllt]

What are your thoughts about orc/klick?

[leviathan93]

I originally thought they were scummy because of orc, but now I am giving them a town read because I really sense it that Klick's persistence and appearance in the threat that he is town and by default that would mean orc too. my town read on Klick currently is stronger than my scum read on orc.

[fferyllt]

I originally thought they were scummy because of orc, but now I am giving them a town read because I really sense it that Klick's persistence and appearance in the threat that he is town and by default that would mean orc too. my town read on Klick currently is stronger than my scum read on orc.

What are your thoughts about the bandwagons last night?

[leviathan93]

Well, I support the fuduzn team lynch more than I do the KBW team lynch even though I think really highly that one of them or both of them is very much scum. My thinking is that we only have to lynch one of them preferrably the fuduzn team. the KWB hasn't posted much as a whole in a while and so i'd prefer to hear more of their thoughts.

I already think I have heard enough of the fuduzn team's thoughts and its not really changing much.

[fferyllt]

Well, I support the fuduzn team lynch more than I do the KBW team lynch even though I think really highly that one of them or both of them is very much scum. My thinking is that we only have to lynch one of them preferrably the fuduzn team. the KWB hasn't posted much as a whole in a while and so i'd prefer to hear more of their thoughts.

I already think I have heard enough of the fuduzn team's thoughts and its not really changing much.

Did you learn anyting from the way the bandwagons formed or the reactions to the bandwagons?

[leviathan93]

I'll go back and reread now.

Not a first glance because I thought it honestly all was mostly a bunch of garbage posting when I thought everyone should have just gone to sleep and agreed not to lynch anyone. we have until the 9th and i already think we are making really good progress.

[Klick]

In less than a day, I'll have a game as proof to this.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=26043

[Klick]

(I'm Juke)

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I originally thought they were scummy because of orc, but now I am giving them a town read because I really sense it that Klick's persistence and appearance in the threat that he is town and by default that would mean orc too. my town read on Klick currently is stronger than my scum read on orc.

WAIT FUCK

WHAT IS THIS POST

YOU NEVER SCUM READ ME

YOU TOWN READ ME FROM LITERALLY THE START OF THE GAME

WHAT IS THIS POST

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Ok. I'm here now.

my third bit of information i think is necssary is that Orc is town. his long posts and many posts since he first started posting seem legit and questioningly scum hunting as well as my past games with him he has always been town for the most part and i think its his town meta.

i personally think orc seems town at this point, which is why i am thinking you look scummy for trying to push his lynch.

I had a town read on orc and fferyllt and was leaning town on sven, still have a null on klick though, but if orc and him are partners

then i'm guessing that would mean he was town.

odd turn of phrase.

define "odd turn of phrase"

i think orc is town. if orc comes in and confirms that klick and he are partners, then that would confirm them to be the same alignment. since I believe orc is town and had a null on klick. i'm leaning that the couple would be town.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

LIKE WHAT THE HELL?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I think Fudu and Messiah are town and I think you're wrong about them Klick.

And I think we might need to consider Levi as a lynch target.