Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[Venmar]

And just like that, GuyInFreezer has been replaced by Buldermar!

Welcome him!

[pirate mollie]

also @ messiah

what do you think about the exchanges between marangala and goat boy.

let me explain what I was seeing:

to me it looked like goat boy was a deer caught in headlights by a scummate whom he thought was being dumb. he was all ready to go after her but then she soft claimed and then he was like wtf. and he has been playing the "I don't know what is going on can you teach me how to iso posts again?" ever since. it has been the scummiest exchange the entire game IMO. (mollie's)

what do you think about that. am I being reading too much into it or is there something there.

hello, can I input my opinion?

I find Ms M's soft claim a bit bullshit, her post says "of course you want me gone" as though she expects Goat to know her role and he's actively pushing to get her lynch.

I'm not sure what to make of it.

thank you!

I don't like her claim either and have said so.

one of the things that I am still learning on this site is navigating the thread narrative from a premise that scum do not have day chat. it is not something I am used to and it puts the in-thread interactions in a totally different light. that whole exchange looked awkward as fuck.

it smelled like 2 scum staging an interaction to me. it looked incredibly forced.

[Piratecat]

also @ messiah

what do you think about the exchanges between marangala and goat boy.

let me explain what I was seeing:

to me it looked like goat boy was a deer caught in headlights by a scummate whom he thought was being dumb. he was all ready to go after her but then she soft claimed and then he was like wtf. and he has been playing the "I don't know what is going on can you teach me how to iso posts again?" ever since. it has been the scummiest exchange the entire game IMO. (mollie's)

what do you think about that. am I being reading too much into it or is there something there.

^^^ that was me

venmar I will not be offended if you delete my alt slips if I repost what I was originally posting. and sorry I keep alt slipping I know it confuses things a bit.

hello, can I input my opinion?

I find Ms M's soft claim a bit bullshit, her post says "of course you want me gone" as though she expects Goat to know her role and he's actively pushing to get her lynch.

I'm not sure what to make of it.

thank you!

I don't like her claim either and have said so.

one of the things that I am still learning on this site is navigating the thread narrative from a premise that scum do not have day chat. it is not something I am used to and it puts the in-thread interactions in a totally different light. that whole exchange looked awkward as fuck.

it smelled like 2 scum staging an interaction to me. it looked incredibly forced.

[Piratecat]

also @ messiah

what do you think about the exchanges between marangala and goat boy.

let me explain what I was seeing:

to me it looked like goat boy was a deer caught in headlights by a scummate whom he thought was being dumb. he was all ready to go after her but then she soft claimed and then he was like wtf. and he has been playing the "I don't know what is going on can you teach me how to iso posts again?" ever since. it has been the scummiest exchange the entire game IMO. (mollie's)

what do you think about that. am I being reading too much into it or is there something there.

hello, can I input my opinion?

I find Ms M's soft claim a bit bullshit, her post says "of course you want me gone" as though she expects Goat to know her role and he's actively pushing to get her lynch.

I'm not sure what to make of it.

thank you!

I don't like her claim either and have said so.

one of the things that I am still learning on this site is navigating the thread narrative from a premise that scum do not have day chat. it is not something I am used to and it puts the in-thread interactions in a totally different light. that whole exchange looked awkward as fuck.

it smelled like 2 scum staging an interaction to me. it looked incredibly forced.

eta: shit. fixed

^^^ that was me (above the eta)

venmar I will not be offended if you delete my alt slips if I repost what I was originally posting. and sorry I keep alt slipping I know it confuses things a bit.

[Slandaar]

@Cryo though: Tunneling is, ironically, something Slandaar does as town and I'm pretty sure he is actually mostly immitating that in his scum games. For instance, this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=22466
He was so convinced that pidgey, a cop cleared VT claim, was actually a godfather that we ended up lynching pidgey in phase before lylo. (Not blaming Slandaar or anything, but seriously I'm just trying to show you what hes capable of when he is convinced hes right). Tunneling as scum is something he does to mimic his town play.

Eh, I tunnel too hard on people sometimes, I am learning to sit back occasionally and take stock but most of the time I just gotta lynch my man!

Also; I was kinda right on Pidgey which is the most annoying thing.

Seriously though; Cryo already knows this; he has played with me as town. He has seen me tunnel. He is scum.

[Piratecat]

@ slaandar
me switching my opinion on a player or holding the tension between 2 views on a player that might seemingly contradict one another, is a playstyle thing. you do realise that don't you?

No its not.

Rest of the post is obviously nonsense because this is clearly wrong.

Playstyle: I scumhunt using x; I post a certain way; I use certain language in my posts; I post a certain frequency

Playstyle is not: I contradict myself

lol

erm no

I scum hunt and my reasoning may seemingly appear contradictory this is the same dumb bullshit you went after me in the titanium game.

[Slandaar]

I don't see why scum would fakeclaim cop enabler or something like that this early as they basically just outed themselves when there is no cop.

[Slandaar]

I scum hunt and my reasoning may seemingly appear contradictory this is the same dumb bullshit you went after me in the titanium game.

You are lying

I might show everyone later

[Slandaar]

or they can just go follow the link that works too

[Piratecat]

(AND super good looking)

Damn straight I am.

@Cryo though: Tunneling is, ironically, something Slandaar does as town and I'm pretty sure he is actually mostly immitating that in his scum games. For instance, this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=22466
He was so convinced that pidgey, a cop cleared VT claim, was actually a godfather that we ended up lynching pidgey in phase before lylo. (Not blaming Slandaar or anything, but seriously I'm just trying to show you what hes capable of when he is convinced hes right). Tunneling as scum is something he does to mimic his town play.

I currently have 5 scum voting me

I really don't want to lynch this. Slandaar could be playing me, but this is really the exact same attitude I've had more often than not as town. Biased and frustrated, but aggressive and loud.

I LOVE YOU CRYO!!!!!

ITT:
Mollie: Slandaar looks town. He was a stubborn ass and tunneled me to death as town in my first game.
Cryo: Slandaar is scum! Hes playing to his tunneling scum meta of one game!
Mollie: Yes, yes, yes!

still loling that you think scum are so terrified of you that they all would risk voting as a bloc

This is a fallacy. Who said they are 'afraid' of him? They could vote for other reasons (easy lynch, wifom of congregating, etc). Slandaar never said anyone was afraid of him.

natural progression into the insanity

haha. Trust me, I know Im a few cards short of a full deck.

slaandar actually makes sense when he trolleytracks. right now he isn't.

also when have you ever seen scum cluster vote on d1? I am not going to say it does not happen, I had a heated argument with my mentor one time cos he did not believe it was possible. then I showed him 3 games from ratz where

scum did exactly that

but it was cos they thought they could get away with impunity. and they did!

@ borky

I asked mala last night to deal with you cos you are way frustrating for me right now. so any interaction you want to have plz address to mala tia

[Piratecat]

also pidgeywidgey, #1099 is a bit of a misrep I sheeped majiffy not cryo

[Piratecat]

I don't see why scum would fakeclaim cop enabler or something like that this early as they basically just outed themselves when there is no cop.

hhhmmm....

did you leave out some words here?

and I thought it was commuter/bulletproof/enabler or something

[Piratecat]

I scum hunt and my reasoning may seemingly appear contradictory this is the same dumb bullshit you went after me in the titanium game.

You are lying

I might show everyone later

I want you to show everyone now

put up or stfu

you accused me of being contradictory in the titanium game and that was why "I needed to be lynched". <---- paraphrased.

you are town and did not learn a thing and therefore have no desire to improve or you are scum pushing what you think is an easy lynch and oh hai! there are people who have the ability to be stupid in this game who will follow you.

[AngryPidgeon]

also pidgeywidgey, #1099 is a bit of a misrep I sheeped majiffy not cryo

Still, Cryo made a really fluffy post that boiled down to:
Slandaar is scum because he is tunneling like he did in one other game.

And you loudly agreed with the post. But you think Slandaar tunneling is a meta towntell from earlier. I just don't get why you are so excited about that post then since you clearly disagree with it or at least know its not totally accurate since YOU have meta of slandaar doing that as town.

I don't see why scum would fakeclaim cop enabler or something like that this early as they basically just outed themselves when there is no cop.

Wait, Im missing context here. What is this about?

Mollie, why did you encourage Bork to stop talking to me despite it helping you read me?
Why is it weird that I am suspicious of you for that, calling me scummy (for no explicitly stated reason) despite saying Im town one post before? Do you really not get my reaction?
Why would I actively try to OMGUS you?

[Mac]

question mollie: why did you refer to Slandaar as "not as good as you think you are" and then "clear-headed, logical minded Slandaar" ?

AP: Ms M has soft claimed some sort of enabler in an argument with the goat pages ago. it looks shit if you ask me.

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh I see. Ok, well this game is grinding on me. I need to take time to look it over objectively. Recently, 2 of my town/null reads are looking more scummy. And Mollie just flatout looks like scum. I do not get why she is brushing off my questions and that post to Bork is completely unexplainable. I thought it was possible they mason slipped, but thats clearly not the case.

[Piratecat]

Still, Cryo made a really fluffy post that boiled down to:
Slandaar is scum because he is tunneling like he did in one other game.

And you loudly agreed with the post

. But you think Slandaar tunneling is a meta towntell from earlier. I just don't get why you are so excited about that post then since you clearly disagree with it or at least know its not totally accurate since YOU have meta of slandaar doing that as town.

then you will have no problem finding the post where I did this.

Wait, Im missing context here. What is this about?

marangala's soft claim?

Mollie, why did you encourage Bork to stop talking to me despite it helping you read me?

that isn't what I did. I asked borky why he was talking to scummy looking

you

AND FUCKING SAID

that I was not sure if you were scum. you are assigning motives in that exchange and have been pushing them. I wanted to see what borky would say. and it confused me cos it seemed like he backed off at time when I he should have been his scum read on you. but then you got spastic and well :/

Why is it weird that I am suspicious of you for that, calling me scummy (for no explicitly stated reason) despite saying Im town one post before? Do you really not get my reaction?
Why would I actively try to OMGUS you?

cos you looked scummy. looking scummy does not always equate to being scum.

go fucking read my post without the blinders on

and I have no idea what you are doing. you are seriously acting crazy and I have not been able to follow you not once in this game. and that worries me.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I currently have 5 scum voting me

Its actually hilarious.

[AngryPidgeon]

The post.

Spoiler:

We'd like to tell you all a quick story:

Once upon a time there was a scumlord playing his scumlordy games:

----Slandaar: 'ZOMG, CRYO IS SCUM', 'Did I mention cryo was scum?', 'guys, cryo is scum', 'more votes cryo', 'vote cryo to lynch scum'.....

The good people of Cryotown (who were all nudists...AND super good looking) had recognized this scumlord from before and called him on his scumlordy play:

----Cryo: 'Slandaar, your tunneling reminds us of a game where you did the same thing and flipped scum....looking like a scum tell for you at this point...'

The scumlord thought he was sly and changed it up immediately:

----Slandaar: 'uh.......crap.....uh.......' 'oooh, I know!...AP is scum', 'KoC is scum', 'PC is scum', 'MaJiffy is scum'....Hope everyone sees I'm not tunneling now....

The good people of Cryotown saw through it and convinced the surrounding towns to kill the scum. The end.

I LOVE YOU CRYO!!!!!

that isn't what I did. I asked borky why he was talking to scummy looking you

Mollie...don't give me this. You asked it in a way that implied he shouldn't be. Otherwise, why ask him so pointedly? What is POSSIBLY wrong with Bork talking to me? It reads like coaching. The whole post just feels misplaced.

[Piratecat]

question mollie: why did you refer to Slandaar as "not as good as you think you are" and then "clear-headed, logical minded Slandaar" ?

I will answer this but I already answered this earlier?

I think both are true. slaandar made sense in the titanium game. he was my strongest town and that is why I kept trying work with him even though he was steadily pushing for my lynch.

I think we can all agree that slaandar's trolleytracking is a null tell for him. the difference that I am seeing is that he is not making sense in this game. I have been able to follow not one of his trains of thoughts. he looks desperate and edgy. so does pidgeywidgey. and I am wondering why. it is out of character (given my limited experience with the both of them).

seriously, why is this so hard to understand.

[Piratecat]

The post.

Spoiler:

We'd like to tell you all a quick story:

Once upon a time there was a scumlord playing his scumlordy games:

----Slandaar: 'ZOMG, CRYO IS SCUM', 'Did I mention cryo was scum?', 'guys, cryo is scum', 'more votes cryo', 'vote cryo to lynch scum'.....

The good people of Cryotown (who were all nudists...AND super good looking) had recognized this scumlord from before and called him on his scumlordy play:

----Cryo: 'Slandaar, your tunneling reminds us of a game where you did the same thing and flipped scum....looking like a scum tell for you at this point...'

The scumlord thought he was sly and changed it up immediately:

----Slandaar: 'uh.......crap.....uh.......' 'oooh, I know!...AP is scum', 'KoC is scum', 'PC is scum', 'MaJiffy is scum'....Hope everyone sees I'm not tunneling now....

The good people of Cryotown saw through it and convinced the surrounding towns to kill the scum. The end.

I LOVE YOU CRYO!!!!!

that isn't what I did. I asked borky why he was talking to scummy looking you

Mollie...don't give me this. You asked it in a way that implied he shouldn't be. Otherwise, why ask him so pointedly? What is POSSIBLY wrong with Bork talking to me? It reads like coaching. The whole post just feels misplaced.

omg

wrt the spoiler

I found the post funny

but I had sheeped majiffy before that post.

so why are you not going after me for majiffy and instead are focusing on my laughing at cryo's post as if that was the original reason as to why I voted slaandar? cos slaandar was positing that cryo and I are scum buddies and that simply is not true. slaandar seems to think that I was sheeping cryo. and you are supporting that.

when that is not true.

[AngryPidgeon]

ok.. I just read a post by Cryo saying that Slandy is scum for X and you supporting it depite saying Slandy is town for X previously. So, you know.

Why did you ask Bork why he is talking to me then. Why did it matter? What did you expect him to say?

[Piratecat]

also welcome buldey!

@ pidgeywidgey

I wanted to try to see where he was coming from and what he would say. it was not about you.

[Slandaar]

VOTE: Cryo

Pirate if you are town seriously go away take a break and think about things.

Then as simply as possible explain to me this;
Why did you sheep Majiffy when you think he just had a major scumtell 2 seconds prior?

And no; I did not say you sheeped Cryo and Why would me suggesting 2 people are scum and being wrong mean anything exactly?

Also fyi you look edgy and desperate just saying.

[Slandaar]

And I still want an answer re GOW knowledge.