Mini 1428: Reign of Flame (Game Over)

BBmolla · Post Post #925 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:36 am

Venmar stop making it look like I'm copying your reads

Venmar · Post Post #926 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:37 am

↑ BBmolla wrote:For the record Uber, I think having a member of the scum get lynched due to them not knowing what VTs are called is absolutely retarded and poor setup creation. People should be getting lynched for scummy play, not claim related bullshit.

- While I might agree in a way, this is scummy to say because town wouldn't be complaining about this. Not to mention such is for postgame discussion anyways.

Venmar · Post Post #927 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:37 am

PEdit: Oooookaaaayyyy??????????????

BBmolla · Post Post #928 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:40 am

↑ Venmar wrote:
↑ BBmolla wrote:For the record Uber, I think having a member of the scum get lynched due to them not knowing what VTs are called is absolutely retarded and poor setup creation. People should be getting lynched for scummy play, not claim related bullshit.

- While I might agree in a way, this is scummy to say because town wouldn't be complaining about this. Not to mention such is for postgame discussion anyways.

I know and I'm aware that it looks bad. I'm saying it from the perspective of a relatively new mod who specifically tried to avoid this shit combined with a disgruntled player who has to deal with claims because the game doesn't specify what the fuck anything is.

That post about me copying your reads wasn't all that serious clam down

BBmolla · Post Post #929 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:40 am

I do think the people who reacted to CooLDoG's shit accordingly are more likely to be town.

I think your reaction fits with your role.

Venmar · Post Post #930 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:41 am

Okay.

I want AJ and Majiffy to get in here.

Aj The Epic · Post Post #931 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:48 am

VOTE: BBmolla

I'm going to camp this vote. I'm in Florida, so I'm basically just maintaining for a few days until I get more time.

jon_h61 · Post Post #932 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:54 am

I

could

post a wall of quotes, but I think Axxle is a good vote.

Venmar · Post Post #933 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:55 am

Nawh.

Jon, do you think BBMola is scum? If not, who on the CD wagon is?

BBmolla · Post Post #934 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:58 am

Majiffy or AJ would have to be scum on the CD wagon.

BBmolla · Post Post #935 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:59 am

Never mind AJ's way of claiming sounds too genuine to be faked.

CryoChemist · Post Post #936 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:03 am

↑ jon_h61 wrote:Yes I'll stand by that all the way to my death. I'll only say if Cryo asks though.

We won't be asking today, of that we are sure.

↑ BBmolla wrote:Should we just mass claim at this point

lol, no and scummy for suggesting it.

Ok, so here's what our heads have decided at this point.

Venmar - Even before the doc claim we were null leaning town on him due to his insistence on us being scum despite our D2 being completely contrary to that conclusion.

Jon - Don't see scum trying to clear town as he has been doing for awhile now. He's not just saying we're town and a bad lynch but he's actively trying to convince others (namely Venmar) that we are town. We think scum him would be more passive in his read on us and let us hang in the end for a 'told you so' post after the fact.

Jiffy - Town read. Interactions with CD point to him being town.

AJ - We had reservations about confirming him as town just because of the Ranger thing. For all we knew Rangers could be neighbors and AJ could be scum and kill of the town Ranger for the mason claim. Barring some sweet ass maneuvering by Venmar and AJ by both being scum and doing a no kill last night, with the Doc claim and protect of AJ, we are going to put this paranoia to the far back for now and call him town as both Venmar and AJ would have to be the remaining dragons to pull this off. As talked about earlier in thoughts on Venmar, we were leaning town on him before the claim anyway so...yeah, town. Wouldn't be surprised if we died tonight to create paranoia on this thought for the rest of town tomorrow, but all we need to do is hit scum today to avoid that.

Molla - leaning scum due to D2's voting record and thinking Venmar right be right about scum bussing CD. If CD was bussed, the bus points to BB at this point. That said, we just finished a game where the policy lynch D1 of scum didn't have a single scum vote so, that's fresh in our minds too.

PM - Had her as a town read up until the hammer yesterday. Leaning scum now due to her saying scum Maestro will self hammer, Maestro going off the wall and not doing what she said scum Maestro would do as scum, and then hammering when it seemed like (at least to us) that Maestro may not be the lynch for that day. We say that because we were a @#$% hair from unvoting ourselves. Add in the fact that she wasn't on the CD wagon

Axxle - Have had a gut scum read on him most of this game. Nothing stuck out and we didn't pursue it like we should have. We are now. If he flips scum, then BB is the partner as we don't see the interactions between PM and him looking like team mate distancing but rather scum/town back and forth.

VOTE: Axxle

p.edit

BBmolla wrote:Majiffy or AJ would have to be scum on the CD wagon.

You're going to post this after we have a no kill last night and a claimed doc saying AJ was his protect?

Yeah, we are good with either Axxle or BB today. Would like Axxle over BB to clear PM in our minds after an Axxle scum flip.

pp.edit
So you're saying Jiffy is scum then BB? If so, explain his D2 posts as scum in reference to CD

CryoChemist · Post Post #937 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:13 am

↑ BBmolla wrote:Okay I think my mafia spirit is back so ask me shit, I think Venmar is town and I think Cryo is town and I think jon is town.

Why isn't AJ in here?

CryoChemist · Post Post #938 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:16 am

↑ BBmolla wrote:Never mind AJ's way of claiming sounds too genuine to be faked.

You forget that we had a no kill and a claimed doc save?

jon_h61 · Post Post #939 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:16 am

↑ Venmar wrote:Nawh.

Jon, do you think BBMola is scum? If not, who on the CD wagon is?

I'm very suspicious of this slot in the game, yes.

CryoChemist · Post Post #940 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:21 am

↑ pirate mollie wrote:
↑ Venmar wrote:Well I recall most of you agreeing that CD's wagon had a scum. Clearly it wasn't me, Majiffy is very unlikely, it wasn't Nacho, and that leaves BBMola and CryoNudist. I'm still of the belief that BBMola is more likely town.

If you guys refuse to lynch Cryo
then perhaps we could consider Pirate Mollie
or Axxle.

At this stage, I think Majiffy and AJ are likely town, and BBMola as well if Cryo flips scum. Jon might be town by gut.

that would be a bad idea

Sigh...this reads as either AtF or PR.....thoughts everyone?

UberNinja · Post Post #941 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:31 am

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Axxle [2]

- jon_h61, CryoNudist

BBmolla [1]

- Aj the Epic

not voting

- Axxle, BBmolla, Majiffy, pirate mollie, Venmar

BBmolla · Post Post #942 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:54 am

↑ CryoChemist wrote:
↑ BBmolla wrote:Never mind AJ's way of claiming sounds too genuine to be faked.

You forget that we had a no kill and a claimed doc save?

Didn't really notice.

But you're not going to believe that.

CryoChemist · Post Post #943 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:26 am

↑ BBmolla wrote:
↑ CryoChemist wrote:
↑ BBmolla wrote:Never mind AJ's way of claiming sounds too genuine to be faked.

You forget that we had a no kill and a claimed doc save?

Didn't really notice.

But you're not going to believe that.

Meh, your posts actually show that you didn't notice.

Do you think CD was bussed with current information?

Majiffy · Post Post #944 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:43 am

↑ Venmar wrote:Majiffy, you were wrong and I was right, I want an apology.

I am never wrong, I'm just sometimes not right.

↑ Venmar wrote:That means Pirate Mollie, BBMola, and Axxle are the last possible scum. 2 of them are scum, I like the odds of that.

Where Majiffy?

Sorry, long night.

And I'm ok with this list.

VOTE: Molla

CryoChemist · Post Post #945 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:52 am

OK, so for the following, we are going to assume nothing super dubious is going on (ie Venmar/AJ scum team, Jon whiteknighting, etc)

Day 1 wagons we thought pertinent:

Spoiler:

Day 2:

Spoiler:

Day 3:

Spoiler:

Now, look at ANG's lynch wagon. either 2 scum are on it OR only 1 scum was on it and the other was off. If the latter, BB is scum. If the former...hrm...we don't know.

BB, what's your read on Axxle.

Axxle, what's your read on BB?

CryoChemist · Post Post #946 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:53 am

Jiffy, why not Axxle? We think Axxle's flip will tell us more than BB's to be honest. What info will we get from a BB town flip and what info from a BB scum flip?

Majiffy · Post Post #947 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:45 am

I'm not lynching for info, I'm lynching for scum.

Majiffy · Post Post #948 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:47 am

↑ CryoChemist wrote:CryoNudist [4] -
Approximately Normal Guy
, Majiffy,
fuzzybutternut
,
Maestro

CryoNudist [4] -
fuzzybutternut
,
Maestro
, BBmolla,
Aj the Epic

I think this is the most interesting wagon of all of them. ANG and I get off, BBMolla hops on to keep it relevant in hopes that ANG and I will get back on.

BB scum flip confirms Cryo town.

Venmar · Post Post #949 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:55 am

Vote: BBMola