TAM has been posting at the ablsolute minimum the entire game, and will continue to do enough to not get subbed. I am never giving this guy a scum win here. 13 posts in a 1000 game with 12 players? you are unworthy, and a coward.
↑Ms Marangal wrote:... orc hammered Fud? Dammit, guess I was wrong? if we go into the second day, I would go after TAM as he's the only one who makes sense to me. VL and Nekoko would be good avenue too though, but both people in the latter pair give more content then the partners in the former pair.
Oh wait no M wants to lynch TAM so
VOTE: VL
You do realize that marangal took down the netire kbw wagon by herself?
Let's talk about what we learned from yesterday, Sven.
We learned that FF's reads turned to mush after she didn't have the balls to push what was an excellent lynch.
We learned that you sheeped FF in thinking me and klick were scum, no matter HOW STUPID that read was given our past actions. There was absolutely zero evidence in me and klick were scum, and this growing fear at the back of your head led you to turn on your strongest townread.
The longer we stall at a high wagon, the less stable our reads become and the more WIFOM builds up behind our eyes, and the more chaotic this town becomes. I don't want a repeat of 30-37.
Fudu and Messiah conftowns wanted this lynch along with me, and this is where I'm going today.
This game was finished when you guys, our team, and levi/m townread each other, and it still is.
No other lynch makes sense. Levi/m? Too low a probability, and if they have a partner, it's nekoko.
Me/Klick? Bitch no.
It's between Nekoko and TAM today. M wants a TAM vote, so I'm going the other way. I strongly believe that TAM/VL/Nekoko/KBW ends the day, but just to be safe, I'm going with what M doesn't want.
Just sheep me because I'm sick of your low-quality posting.
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
Orc you are allready circulating within 3 pairs, which means its enough if you and klick vots wrong, just chill man.
Edit. I never really thought you were scum, until your unvote. She voted fud which was fine by me and I thought some discussion might come of it, I even state you two as my highest town read.
Orc you just changed your vote on tam based on something marangal did.. so I mean, as long as you can concievingly see three options you hold that fucking vote good sir.
I agree with you, we might have been right all along, just take it easy, we will get this done, and yesterday was a good lynch, maybee not the best but good.
How do you function? You never vote. Now at must lynch you have no problem deciding within hours and not wait for active players to arrive. You are not making sense to me.
I do, but only when I am unsure of my own reads. right now, I'm pretty confident that scum lie within those four and I play to win. if we are going to pull the win from voting TAM, VL, Nekoko, or the KBW replacement, then I am willing to throw my comfort for whats best for the team.
↑Ms Marangal wrote:I do, but only when I am unsure of my own reads. right now, I'm pretty confident that scum lie within those four and I play to win. if we are going to pull the win from voting TAM, VL, Nekoko, or the KBW replacement, then I am willing to throw my comfort for whats best for the team.
↑Svenskt Stål wrote:
I dont know what you are talking about. We have like 20 days to get this done, we have replacements incoming.
There is no need to do this now.
Marangals spooks the hell out of me because she makes more sense together with TAM than with VL imo.
First bold: As far as I'm concerned we can do it now. I don't want to read another replacement. It could throw my read off as easily as it could straighten it out. Inactiveness is how a town dies. And I think that we can win today, so just take a deep breath and lynch scum.
Second bold: For the last time,
why
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Ms Marangal wrote:I do, but only when I am unsure of my own reads. right now, I'm pretty confident that scum lie within those four and I play to win. if we are going to pull the win from voting TAM, VL, Nekoko, or the KBW replacement, then I am willing to throw my comfort for whats best for the team.
Back to town.
It's VL. Lynch her.
And I'm going to ignore you until you provide an actual CASE on why it it's TAM>VL.
EDIT: No it's not. You're not playing mafia properly.
orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
I don't know why you ask for more posts when you don't even analyze the ones we already have.
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
↑fferyllt wrote:No I listed you together because you guys so far haven't been in the thick of any of the major bandwagons. And because the major theories so far have involved scum being for sure among the three pairs, including FuDuzn/Messiah.
I voted for FuDuzn long before his bandwagon started, and I'm willing to hammer him if it comes to that. The way I think of it, Messiah/FuDuzn is likely to be a scumpair and Levi/Marangal is likely to be a scumpair, but they're not very likely to be scum together. Which means there's probably a scumpair still lurking amongst the remaining four pairs. I'm obviously not going to vote for myself or Nekoko. Fferyllt and Sven are definitely town. Which means between Orci/Klick and TAM/KBW there's likely a scumpair lurking.
(Why not vote Orci/Klick and TAM/KBW? Orci and TAM's back-and-forth makes it highly unlikely to me that they'd be scum together.)
The big three you and Sven are referring to is made up of Messiah/FuDuzn, TAM/KBW, and me/Nekoko, right?
(PS: eleven posts were made between the time I started typing this up and the time I finished. Is Fuduzn at L-1 now? In that case, I think this counts as an intent to hammer.)
Let's talk about what we learned from yesterday, Sven.
We learned that FF's reads turned to mush after she didn't have the balls to push what was an excellent lynch.
We learned that you sheeped FF in thinking me and klick were scum, no matter HOW STUPID that read was given our past actions. There was absolutely zero evidence in me and klick were scum, and this growing fear at the back of your head led you to turn on your strongest townread.
The longer we stall at a high wagon, the less stable our reads become and the more WIFOM builds up behind our eyes, and the more chaotic this town becomes. I don't want a repeat of 30-37.
Fudu and Messiah conftowns wanted this lynch along with me, and this is where I'm going today.
This game was finished when you guys, our team, and levi/m townread each other, and it still is.
No other lynch makes sense. Levi/m? Too low a probability, and if they have a partner, it's nekoko.
Me/Klick? Bitch no.
It's between Nekoko and TAM today. M wants a TAM vote, so I'm going the other way. I strongly believe that TAM/VL/Nekoko/KBW ends the day, but just to be safe, I'm going with what M doesn't want.
Just sheep me because I'm sick of your low-quality posting.
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:When scum make incriminating comments, they frequently try to back out of the statement with a comment along the lines of "Obviously that was a joke!" Orcinus is doing this right now w/r/t his vote on Fferyllt sans explanation.
Well, no.
Plus I find your stated reasoning for the vote kind of flimsy... if you wanted to start a conversation with Fferyllt in real time, wouldn't you try to ask her a question or something instead of just voting for her with no explanation?
Because obviously it gave a better reaction. Here, VL is jumping on what was an easy mislynch. Bad bandwagon #1.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:
But most suspicious of all right now is Fuduzn, whose playstyle is aggressive with zero substance. I think he's the most likely to be scum out of everyone here.
VOTE: Fuduzn[/vote
Bad bandwagon #2. So far voodoo has gone for the two easiest mislynches, both aggressive players, and both reaction testing in a sense.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:I'm not 100% sure about KBW/TAM being half of the scumpair like some people seem to be... I can't see Fuduzn/Messiah as town, but TAM's town play and scum play are fairly similar and KBW hasn't posted nearly enough. Marangal's first post combined with Levi's recent blunder (are you two even playing any other games together??) lead me to believe they're the other half of the scum pair, though I'm not as sure about that as I am with Fuduzn/Messiah. I feel confident enough to change my vote for now, though.
Bad bandwagon #3. Levi's post was obviously misconstrued. If you haven't noticed yet Voodoo is just voting with the easiest lynches at the time, all of which I disagree with fwiw. Also, why "can't see Fudu as town", but then vote Levi? Especially since she's not as sure about Levi as she is about Fudu? not town reasoning.
UNVOTE: [/unvote VOTE: Levi[/vote
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:
Sven, if post 645 is all the suspicious things you can find going through me and my lover's collective ISO, I'm not sure why you aren't voting Marangal/Levi. If anything is evidence of a predesigned team it's post 4.
"Predesigned team"? Town have "presdesigned" partners, you know that right? And why ar eyou pushing levi instead of fudu, y'know, the pair you felt was fo'sho' scum?
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:I'm pretty sure we're still allowed to post until the thread is locked.
↑orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh and look VL ignores me again and I mean FUCK DAMNIT
↑Svenskt Stål wrote:Voodoo, where you at girl, give me something to work with.
How do you see us solving this game?
I figured either Messiah/Fuduzn or Levi/Marangal was half of the scum pair, and TAM/KBW or Klick/Orci was the other half... so if Messiah/Fuduzn is town, that would make Levi/Marangal scum. But I'm not sure I'm going to be able to convince the rest of the town that they're scum.
Wait wait wait. stop now. You always pushed Mesisah/Levi as ONE scumteam. The "or" in that sentence is bullshit. And that last sentence is dumb.
I'd personally try to grill TAM and his new partner tomorrow, since they haven't done much in the way of posting.
"lol"
WHat the what.
Allright so you have marangal as highest suspects but you dont think you will be able to convince town... not even try? Whats your case on marangals?
Why havent you tried to grill TAMs before?
The only person who seemed to agree with me that they were scummy was Fuduzn, and I'm not getting his support tomorrow. Pretty much everyone seems to have them as town.
I didn't exactly have much to grill TAM on... he's made twelve posts, remember? And half of them are from early in the game in that back-and-forth with Orci.
So "I'll grill them", and then...wait where did you grill them again?
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:Any reason for your suspicions of TAM beyond gut, Ms. M?
Passive aggressively defending TAM.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:Ffer: Orcinus and TAM's interactions sort of remind me of how TAM went after Luisss in our game with him... the whole going after a suspicious player who posts a lot thing. We know how that turned out, of course, but I'm not certain that this isn't a thing town!TAM would do.
"I'm not sure"
Marangal's post strikes me as a bit contrived... did she really need to mention Levi by name in that post?? Couldn't she have just said "Hey, lover: don't get yourself lynched on D1 like you always do" or something to that extent. Would like to see her post more before putting her down as town, because that first post alone is NLS to me.
Basically OMGUS'ing for TAM.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:Rereading Ms M's ISO... that first post is still a bit odd to me, but she's been very active and questioning while not making any scumslips or anything.
Levi on the other hand is a bit more suspicious. You haven't really explained why you think Fferyllt might be scum, and your argument for TAM being scum is that he seems too town.
Misrep. And why is she so fixated on TAM? They've talked about much more than TAM.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:
Not so certain on KBW and TAM being scum, but KBW/TAM/Messiah/FuDuzn being the scumteam would explain post 30.
↑fferyllt wrote: I'd be cool with a TAM lynch, though I'd like KBW to post first before we do.
And again. So just to make sure you understand what's going on here, scum want to call their partner out (distancing) but don't really want to distance them. Here, we have Voodoo consistently throwing TAM scumreads, but never doing anything about them. Ever. Ever. HMM.
Also re: that post: I'm waiting for KBW to post before I vote for TAM/KBW because TAM is inscrutable and KBW hasn't posted nearly enough for me to get a read. I always wait for players to post before voting for them, and I'd be hard-pressed to think of a person who wouldn't.
You know that KBW is V/LA, you're just using this as an excuse to not talk about your buddies. If TAM is inscrutable and KBW inactive, then why do you have a scumread on them?
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:
TAM had a huge back-and-forth with Orci which I sort of glazed over. I could see him as scum. I could see him as town. He's hard to read. KBW is a total mystery though, and I think the key to determining the identity of the scumpair is what his replacement says.
This is the biggest waste of breath I have ever seen. Once again on the subject of TAM.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:
I think TAM's play as scum in the last game I played with his is pretty similar to his play in this game. But he played like this in the Poly game he linked earlier to some extent as well. I have no idea how to read TAM.
Yes, you've mentioned.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:
I'd personally try to grill TAM and his new partner tomorrow, since they haven't done much in the way of posting.
Let's see how you grill TAM...
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:
I didn't exactly have much to grill TAM on... he's made twelve posts, remember? And half of them are from early in the game in that back-and-forth with Orci.
Ouch that grill hurt.
↑Voodoo Lady wrote:I'd be very surprised if neither he nor KBW's replacement posted tomorrow.
GET GRILLED
So to summarize
Voodoo calls TAM/KBW scum. Then null. Then scum. Then "needs to post more because one is inscrutable and the other is inactive". She goes out of her way to avoid an actual read on them. It's ridiculous.
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
ISOing TAM, he hasn't talked about Voodoo and Nekoko at all. Literally.
Like he had two posts with their name in it
↑The Acting Method wrote:
Bolded for emphasis. I interpreted that to mean that you thought that the four of us (TAM, KBW, Nekoko and VL) are scum together and have day talk. Which is completely untrue as far as KBW and I are concerned but still, the idea that scum has daytalk is disproved in the opening post.
Marangal, Please explain, other than my lurking what I have done that was "anti-town."
I'm willing to move to a Voodoo Lady Nekoko lynch, however, Orc and Klick are still superior, and I could see Fuduzn in the wierd "we are distancing each other but trying not to be to obvious about it so we don't get ourselves lynched."
However if Voodoo Lady/Nekoko flip town, I would rather us look at those who were a part of the bandwagons involving them.
Never before has he stated anything about Voodoo/Nekoko. Why the sudden interest?
↑The Acting Method wrote:I still think it's Orc. That's all I need to say.
VOTE: Orcinus
Please try and convince me otherwise, I might be convinced on maybe Voodoo Lady
Also on Ms. Marangal, She's been playing Mafia for about 6 months to a year on the other site. I should know, I'm the one who brought her here and I mod some games on the other sites mafia section (it isn't sole mafia. )
Yeah okay TAM's ISO is so barren and devoid of content I mean fuck this must be scum.
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
Currently he's the one that I find the most suspicious.
If he was new to this game, I'd be inclined to think he's a nervous newbie town
but since he played 15 games on site and more than 10 games off site,
I'm more inclined to believe that he's nervous scum.
I'll probably reread orc's posts tomorrow. Got tired when reading his posts
Not really a fan of inserting texts inside the quotes...
This re-read never comes, just fyi.
Nekoko hasn't talked about TAM/KBW either. Huh.
And once again I hate the vote on me. It reeks of OMGUS'ing for TAM. But again, too devoid of content. But I find it very telling that Nekoko and TAM has interacted with (I think) every pair EXCEPT for each other.
They're scum.
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
