Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Bacde]

actually after #446 I'm really unsure

I still gut think you are town

lemme ISO you

[Bacde]

Do you care for my answer to this question? You haven't pushed it or mentioned that I still haven't answered it.

It was a rhetorical question.

What were you expecting scum-absta would do in response to your pressure vote?

this post just screams town-absta to me

[AngryPidgeon]

Yeah, that's because i'm town. Why are you avoiding scum?

Bacde is avoiding your wagon because you are town? But hes also avoiding a scum wagon?

What do you mean with the bolded?

DGB thinks you are town for saying you are ok with being lynched if we lynched kash/Xeg after. I'm saying I don't think that was a towntell on your end. Its a very easy thing to posture on and I don't see any train of thought that leads to you throwing that out there. Its possible you said it as town, but the context around it all does not make me think you are towntelling like DGB seems to think.

[Bacde]

WTF? you have to Unvote first. Why am I scummy here?

Give me 2 reasons.

You're over reacting.
VOTE: KeyBlade


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I agree that Fish replacing out makes him look like newb scum caving under pressure.
I support his waggon.

Gut scum read on Xeg atm.

@absta, why is Xeg necessarily a scum-replace out,

but Fish is a town-replace out

and also KBW is a town-replace out?

[Revenus]

Yeah, that's because i'm town. Why are you avoiding scum?

Bacde is avoiding your wagon because you are town? But hes also avoiding a scum wagon?

What do you mean with the bolded?

DGB thinks you are town for saying you are ok with being lynched if we lynched kash/Xeg after. I'm saying I don't think that was a towntell on your end. Its a very easy thing to posture on and I don't see any train of thought that leads to you throwing that out there. Its possible you said it as town, but the context around it all does not make me think you are towntelling like DGB seems to think.

I actually like this post; it's really easy for scum to go "well if these guys don't flip scum, you can lynch me after" and then by the time the next day rolls through after the mislynch, no one holds them accountable.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I would be more than happy to purge Rev from the game though.

oh boy oh boy

Finally someone sees what I see

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Actually I might be willing to lynch Rev

Squuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

-DGB

[Revenus]

If you guys are gonna lynch or wagon me, at least come up with a case beyond meta/gut. Seriously.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I could see Yoshi as scum.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

If you guys are gonna lynch or wagon me, at least come up with a case beyond meta/gut. Seriously.

How about, "sounds like fun!"

-DGB

[Revenus]

Ok then...


If I do end up getting lynched, I have one thing to say to Bacde; don't complain about me getting killed d1 or n1 in the games I play with you if you can never manage to read me and join in stupid mislynches.

[AngryPidgeon]

If you guys are gonna lynch or wagon me, at least come up with a case beyond meta/gut. Seriously.

And you can't determine his slot's alignment from absta's posts in the meantime? I see that you are willing to vote Xeg based on Xeg's post despite Xeg ALREADY HAVING REPLACED OUT. In fact, you even said as much in the exact same post.

You do realize this is also why people thought BEF was scum, right?

Clarification: You said that KBW was scum for lurking under pressure. You also said that the case on BEF is shitty because he replaced out under pressure:

I want to know WHY IFM's slot is still being wagoned when most of the reasons for voting him are based off "oh BEF nubscum replaced".

[Revenus]

Clarification: You said that KBW was scum for lurking under pressure. You also said that the case on BEF is shitty because he replaced out under pressure:

Except KBW was far scummier than BEF contentwise.

[absta101]

actually after #446 I'm really unsure

I still gut think you are town

lemme ISO you

Answer the question in #446 please.

[Bacde]

I think Safety is town

your second question was loaded which is why I didn't like post #446

[absta101]

Fair enough.

[absta101]

Even if Safety is a town read, shouldn't he ALSO get +scum points?

[AngryPidgeon]

I see Rach is Qing for more games >.>

[Bacde]

not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning

[absta101]

not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning

I hope you're scum.

You are, aren't you?

[kashoodles]

I'm Back.

Lurker :L Can you explain your scum tells a little more?

Why don't you have a single strong scumread?

Why is that scummy behavior? Is it not possible for town-Lurker to not have any strong reads? (Note he IS voting his 'strongest' read)

363 DOES look town though. Lurker isn't trying to appease anyone. Its like how RY voted him for not having any 'scum' reads and only light scum reads. Scum-lurker is more likely to pad his reads list in a way to avoid that sort of crappy suspicion. Its the same way I id'd Darthe as town in NY159 for going all D2 without voting anyone. Its just a small thing that people WILL call you scummy for and that scum players WILL avoid doing for that reason. Also he doesn't bother justifying any of those reads very much which gives me town vibes for the same reason. WIFOM, etc.

@Kash:

Feel better : ). I think Im mostly over my flu/cold.

I do feel similarly about RY's feelings on Lurker. He has been kind of getting by and jumped a wagon out of convenience. I don't like that when he does come back, he doesn't post a lot unless pressured (and when pressure's off he jumps back in again to lurk), and tells us that he is here but doesn't contribute much. His one town post was followed by disappearing and not saying much.

And thanks! Feeling much better after sleeping (and sleeping in until 3... oops).

@Kash

It's more like you keep mentioning it as an extra afterthought that is unnecessary in the situation. I wouldn't find it weird except you keep bringing it up. Though I was skimming yesterday and Rev asking you about it was part of it so that was partly influencing it.

Not "partly", fully! I was responding to him...

It just seems like you keep bringing up these points now for something later on, like after the lynch today.

What? Why would that be helpful to scum-absta. Even if I were scum and you were right about me setting something up, how would I know who would get lynched?

So scum can make connections within players D1 to have a bigger support of it D2. Of course you don't know who's going to get lynched. You just seem to keep pushing my lynch WITH Xeg's for some reason, even though I have been voting Xeg too. So why are you pushing for my lynch with Xeg's so much? That's why it feels weird. It makes me think Xeg is town and you are trying to make it seem like I pushed a mislynch or Xeg is scum and you are trying to push a buss.

I mean, even before Rev:
#339, #418. Also the asking about experience for scum.

[Bacde]

not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning

I hope you're scum.

You are, aren't you?

yep, you caught me

[absta101]

I actually like this post; it's really easy for scum to go "well if these guys don't flip scum, you can lynch me after" and then by the time the next day rolls through after the mislynch, no one holds them accountable.

Right now I don't really care if I get lynched first.

If any of these die, my mission is complete:
Zed
Kash
Safety
Yoshi (bonus)
Bacde

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@Kash

That's why it feels weird. It makes me think Xeg is town and you are trying to make it seem like I pushed a mislynch

This obviously doesn't work because i'm the one pushing his lynch the hardest.

Xeg is scum and you are trying to push a buss.

Push a buss?
You mean to say i'm trying to sacrifice Xeg/Zed for the small chance of getting town-you with him? If scum-absta wanted you dead, why not just NK you? Generally scum go after more easier targets. I'm like the only one who is suspicious of you. It doesn't make sense.

[Bacde]

^^What posts are those from in Kashoodles?

How long are those posts spaced apart?

[Bacde]

not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning

I hope you're scum.

You are, aren't you?

oh I get it, you think safety is scum