Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[absta101]

not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning

I hope you're scum.

You are, aren't you?

yep, you caught me

Spoiler alert Breaking Bad:

[Bacde]

not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning

I hope you're scum.

You are, aren't you?

yep, you caught me

Spoiler alert Breaking Bad:

HEY THATS A WAY DIFFERENT SITUATION WALTER WHITE SAID YOU "GOT" ME I SAID YOU "CAUGHT" ME

also I'm town

If you had to narrow down your suspects to just 3 people instead of 5, who would they be?

[Bacde]

@absta, can you answer #473 as well as the question above?

[kashoodles]

@Kash

That's why it feels weird. It makes me think Xeg is town and you are trying to make it seem like I pushed a mislynch

This obviously doesn't work because i'm the one pushing his lynch the hardest.

Xeg is scum and you are trying to push a buss.

Push a buss?
You mean to say i'm trying to sacrifice Xeg/Zed for the small chance of getting town-you with him? If scum-absta wanted you dead, why not just NK you? Generally scum go after more easier targets. I'm like the only one who is suspicious of you. It doesn't make sense.

You're trying to make me seem ridiculous when it's a legitimate thing.

If Xeg is scum and you are scum, you're pushing for his lynch and yet also trying to create a second lynch on me, whether today or tomorrow. People don't seem to be paying attention to your Xeg/Zde lynch so you're targeting the only other person on that lynch?

Um, I didn't say "scum-absta" wanted me dead? Who ever said that? Why are you misrepresenting what I'm saying? I'm saying you're trying to make me look bad on the

lynch you yourself are pushing for.

I don't care if you're the only one suspicious of me. It's weird to me that you keep saying, "We should lynch Xeg. Oh, I think Kash is scum too." at the end of it. And then when you explain it, it's gut.

VOTE: absta101

Stop misrepresenting what I'm saying.

[kashoodles]

Also, I think that's L-2 before people jump on the BW and claim they didn't know.

[Jake from State Farm]

Vote Count 1.09
RachMarie -
Revenus -
Hiraki -
RandomYoshil - Bacde (L-6)
Doctor Zoidberg MD -
Bacde -
Lurker - RachMarie (L-6)

absta101 - Zdenek, AngryPidgeon, SafetyDance, RandomYoshi, Kashoodles (L-2)

SafetyDance -
Kashoodles -
Zdenek - absta101 (L-6)
AngryPidgeon - Lurker, Revenus, Hiraki (L-4)
IFM - Doctor Zoidberg MD (L-6)

Not Voting: IFM


Zdenek & IFM are on v/la until 3/31
RachMarie has been prodded

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-04-05 11:30:00)

I am human and can make mistakes, if you see an error with the vote count please let me know

[absta101]

@absta, can you answer #473 as well as the question above?

When I get back.

As for your other question.
Zed
You or Safety
Kash

I can see either you or Kash working with Zed.

[absta101]

Also, I think that's L-2 before people jump on the BW and claim they didn't know.

Np, you better self vote after I flip town.

Btw, i'm a VT. Sorry for the early claim but this needs to happen.

[Bacde]

@absta, can you answer #473 as well as the question above?

When I get back.

As for your other question.
Zed
You or Safety
Kash

I can see either you or Kash working with Zed.

ugh

this is so bad I'm tempted to hop on the bw

[Zdenek]

I have some time this evening.

Also you're going to have to explain the last part better. It sounds very much like "Why didn't you vote Player A for X reason when you voted for player B for Z reason". I don't understand.

I don't care that you didn't vote for Hiraki. My point was that you reacted strongly KBW's vote, but not at all to Hiraki's comment.

More confused. I did react, I agreed with him about KBW. How about mentioning/quoting the posts you're talking about?

Eh...that should read BEF not KBW. Too many damn acronyms for awol or replaced players >.<

Could you tell me what your point is?

@Zed - BEF was playing different to his VT game.
He was acting weird on purpose.
IFM claims PR.
Everything fits. I've seen a lot of PRs play 'scummy'/weird so that they don't get NKd.

He was a neighbor. It's basically the weakest pr there is. There's no reason for him to play differently to avoid the NK.

AP[

, you think Absta's bussing me?
I see the answer is yes because of Xeg OMGUS voing him. That's silly.

Unvote

Considering we've had 12 million replacements in this game on Day 1 I'm giving AP noms for best replacement, 3+ new pages to read with content, eep. But he's wrong about his slot being obv town before.

I'm agreeing with the absta lynch though. Not liking the attempt at sarcasm either. Hard to know what to make of it all without a flip, ergo

Vote:absta

V/LA till after Monday. Happy Easter everyone.

There is nothing in this post, and even your ISO, that explains why you think Absta is scum.

The way Absta is persuing his scum reads looks town. It's the way that he reads me as town and then aggressively starts looking for my potential buddies based on interactions.

Unvote

[Zdenek]

Sorry, that should be . . . the way he reads me as scum. . . . .

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Ms Marangal jettisoned this game, and just replaced INTO another.

I think she should be site-banned, and that Yoshi is scum.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Signed:

-DGB

[AngryPidgeon]

Well Bacde and Zoid want to lynch RY. And I want to lynch RY. And Bcde/Zoid are two people I'm pretty confident about being town.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

VOTE: RandomYoshi

-DGB

[Lurker]

UNVOTE

[Lurker]

@Kashooldles.

I will be going to bed very soon, then won't be back on until 12:00 or later.

Expect something then.

I was on FTB mafiascum server for the mmajority of today: hence my lack of posting.

[Hiraki]

I'm still on the fence about Absta. Am leaning toward stopping this wagon though.

I'd much prefer my lynchpool over Absta (For reference: Lynchpool: SafetyDance,

BEF

IFM,

Xegarus

Zdenek, Bacde )

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hiraki your lynch pool is terrible, help us lynch Yoshi.

-DGB

[kashoodles]

Also, I think that's L-2 before people jump on the BW and claim they didn't know.

Np, you better self vote after I flip town.

That's nice.

RY's come in pretty strong/scumhunts actively. Plus he picked at some peripheral people at the time (myself/absta/Lurker). MM replacing in is pretty weird - though I stalked some of her posts. I feel dirty. How much is allowed to talk about end-game discussion of another game?

@Lurker, yes please.

[RachMarie]

I am here

I have had a fairly busy wekk this week, but I will be spending time tomorrow on mafia games.

At this point, I am leaning toward Yoshi, not because he is a replacement, but because of his posts since he replaced in. I want to do a bit more comparison with his predecessor and check out a couple more people.


BTW AP who also replaced in on someone peeps were thinking was scummy, has definitely clarified the slot more, and I think he is town so obviously his predecessor Key was also town. Besides, though I have not played many games with neighbors, they have always been town in the games I have been in, and I can't see a benefit to scum for having a neighborizer. They already know who the town members are.

[RachMarie]

Still not sure on Lurker though he seems scummy, though I can't see Yoshy bussing him, which is why I want to take another look at them.

[Hiraki]

What does your other head think of my lynchpool though?

[RandomYoshi]

'In case' its a town/scum relationship?

Whats the point of asking that?

Well excuse me for wanting people to

clarify what they mean

, getting responses from said people, trying to analyse it to see what I can get from the content that's generated from my asked question.

RY,

what is your read on DCZMD and why?

Their posts are short and concise, and they know how to get their point across. They are actively partaking in scumhunting, and their methods of doing so feel incredibly genuine. Overall, there is very little that could constitute to call them Scum. They are also willing to give players a second chance, which reads Town to me.

Why is not having a strong scumread scummy?

First of all, having a scumread on somebody means that you see them as Scum. This is clear to everyone. Having no strong scumreads on anyone feels like a weak way to justify your vote. It's like he's afraid of actually voicing his opinion on who he thinks is Scum. Additionally, his list of reads had way too many Null-reads to satisfy me in general.

On the topic of absta, there is still something that I would like to bring forward. Analyse how he acted when his bandwagon shrunk for the first time. Just analyse it. While he was put under pressure, he was sort of active and contributed to things, but when his bandwagon shrunk, he didn't remind people of his presence at all. To me, that seems like Scum who has just been able to throw away a bandwagon off of them, and doesn't want it to rebuild itself.

Furthermore, his constant push of the Xeg-slot doesn't feel natural. It comes off as intensive bussing to me. And on the regards of him not having any townreads, I view that as creating methods of possible backpedeling in case he wants to change his reads.

On the topic of absta's reads, wouldn't he want to interact more with his scumreads to see if he was right or not? Why would he not want to explore his reads? I totally would have focused on all of my scumreads, subsequently verifying my reads one by one. There's just something that's amiss here.

[RandomYoshi]

UNVOTE

Why no new vote? Surely, you'd want to push somebody in a direction desirable for you.