Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[Messiah]

Slandaar, what is the name of your masonizer ability?

[Piratecat]

slaandar, we will figure something out on the mason board to help give you some leverage in the event that I am killed. no matter how I feel about a player I always set those feelings aside when it comes to working with them as a team. I hope you are the same way. we figure something out just plz show up.

that is of course if you are town.

UNVOTE: slaandar

I would rather have a no lynch then to lynch 2 outed specials and I don't give a shit what other people think about it. I am pretty sure messiah is telling the truth and slaandar has a way to prove himself.

eta: xpost with messiah, I would love a buldey lynch

[Jal]

Is it that hard to follow a conversation, really? You are trying so hard to twist things I say. You are talking to the person who has been night killed because scum knew I could argue my way out of their bullshit.

Let's see.

Mollie claims that this post indicates that I don't pay attention to the thread:

Bleh the one thing about Messiah was that they came into the thread briefly and they didn't seem to even care about their wagon or notice it. I'd think they would if scum. I really don't like either wagon and the whole thing coming to "pick between two" early was stupid.

and somehow proves that I didn't read this:

Does anyone even know why they want to lynch me? That's an honest question, because if they do you can color me surprised. AP made a big deal about how I have shown a "subconscious need to rationalize [my] vote [on ANG]" earlier in the game, and mastin is of the opinion that every single thing I've ever posted was chock full of obvious scum tells that he doesn't seem to feel obligated to explain to anyone.

What about everyone else? Mac's vote was incredibly shit, with his only previous mentions of me in his iso being how he thought I could be Cryo's scumbuddy but Cryo was more likely to be scum. Coincidentally, this is pretty much exactly what qwints has done as well. These two scumfucks are also trying to paint my V/LA as being scummy somehow, even if it requires them to fabricate the timelime of my posts and when I went V/LA (in qwints' case). Buldermar is voting for me because PirateCat is on the Slandaar wagon(??). And who the fuck knows why PV and Bacde are on me, they sure didn't say so.


If anyone has any doubt in their mind that I'm not a scum-driven Slandaar counter wagon then they're probably dumb as fuck. I would be willing to vote Mac or qwints if I need to, but it's patently god damned obvious that Slandaar is scum at this point.

pedit: Actually, Jal is voting for me. She was kind enough to leave the reason up to our imaginations, though.

But I obviously did read it, based on my conversation with Mrs M regarding how I thought Messiah's last post was scummy because they weren't around and did not claim in the last post (when they did come):

Messiah said they would be here for deadline stuff and isn't. Also, they didn't claim. If they knew they wouldn't be here, why not claim then? Ms M, where's the pro town in that? Their last post sucked.

But ho, reader! This doesn't make sense, as I already said, my post which she points out refers to this much earlier post of Messiah's:

Hey, I'm sorta here. I don't know that I'll be able to read much of the last ten pages but I'll be available for deadline stuff.

It doesn't make sense at all to take my conversation previously and call it scummy and think I am referring to the same thing later on by giving a reason by I think Messiah may be town. In the first post I used "last." By saying earlier in my last quoted post, I am obviously not refering to Messaih's "last post."

But all of this boils down to Priatecat's main argument: I am scum before I don't pay attention. She never questioned may bitching at Mac and Qwints, so one can assume she doesn't protest my claim against them. They should be scum too by that logic. By the fact she couldn't keep up herself, she is also undeniably scum now in her own light.

[Piratecat]

messiah I love you

[Piratecat]

VOTE: buldey

hey jal weren't you bragging that you could make flash lynches happen? here is your chance! help us bus your scumbuddy?

[Messiah]

vote: Buldermar

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm not disagreeable to a Bulder lynch, but I still think Slandaar's claim is far too easy to fake, and it hasn't changed my opinion of him.
Disagree with Mollie, a lynch - even a mislynch - gives us information which is something we are desperately in need of due to the number of inactives in this game.
Will be around all day for any last-minute shenanigans.

[buldermar]

no. this is why you should have done some legitimate scum hunting instead of the lazy pig-headed half-assed crap that you have pulled.

if I lose another game cos of your retarded trolleytracking I am going to never want to play with you again for a very long long time unless until you grow up.

jal and buldey for sure, maybe majiffy and probably the kernel as well cos they have both been off of v/la and have NOT DONE SHIT

Hey are you going to pull this crap on me as well when/if I out/get mislynched and you realize that you were silly to think I'm scum?

oh god you are such scum

Mollie, you've never seen a scum tell from me (at least not what I know of). I've only ever lost a single game as scum, and you weren't a participant in that game. Every other game in which I've been scum, I've won. On the contrary, you have mislynched me as town before, thinking you have picked up on some scumslip. I don't make scumslip as scum, but I may make something that could look as scumslips as town because I don't particularly care about looking town as town (but perhaps I should). In summary, you're probably better off lynching me when you can't find a single reason to do so than when you think you have actually found one.

[buldermar]

I don't think anyone would ever make post 1716 if they actually thought the person they were talking to was scum.

Can we lynch buldermar instead?

I think Piratecat is the most likely person to be scum, but despite that she's obviously still more likely to be town than scum. That's all besides, though, because even if I had a guilty on her I'd make that kind of post, so your read is terrible.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Every other game in which I've been scum, I've won.

This is hella fallacial son. Just 'cause you won games don't mean you ain't shown tells, just means they ain't been caught.

[Piratecat]

Is it that hard to follow a conversation, really? You are trying so hard to twist things I say. You are talking to the person who has been night killed because scum knew I could argue my way out of their bullshit.

Let's see.

Mollie claims that this post indicates that I don't pay attention to the thread:

Bleh the one thing about Messiah was that they came into the thread briefly and they didn't seem to even care about their wagon or notice it

. I'd think they would if scum. I really don't like either wagon and the whole thing coming to "pick between two" early was stupid.

and somehow proves that I didn't read this:

Does anyone even know why they want to lynch me? That's an honest question, because if they do you can color me surprised. AP made a big deal about how I have shown a "subconscious need to rationalize [my] vote [on ANG]" earlier in the game, and mastin is of the opinion that every single thing I've ever posted was chock full of obvious scum tells that he doesn't seem to feel obligated to explain to anyone.

What about everyone else? Mac's vote was incredibly shit, with his only previous mentions of me in his iso being how he thought I could be Cryo's scumbuddy but Cryo was more likely to be scum. Coincidentally, this is pretty much exactly what qwints has done as well. These two scumfucks are also trying to paint my V/LA as being scummy somehow, even if it requires them to fabricate the timelime of my posts and when I went V/LA (in qwints' case). Buldermar is voting for me because PirateCat is on the Slandaar wagon(??). And who the fuck knows why PV and Bacde are on me, they sure didn't say so.


If anyone has any doubt in their mind that I'm not a scum-driven Slandaar counter wagon then they're probably dumb as fuck. I would be willing to vote Mac or qwints if I need to, but it's patently god damned obvious that Slandaar is scum at this point.

pedit: Actually, Jal is voting for me. She was kind enough to leave the reason up to our imaginations, though.

But I obviously did read it, based on my conversation with Mrs M regarding how I thought Messiah's last post was scummy because they weren't around and did not claim in the last post (when they did come):

Messiah said they would be here for deadline stuff and isn't. Also, they didn't claim. If they knew they wouldn't be here, why not claim then? Ms M, where's the pro town in that?

Their last post sucked

.

But ho, reader! This doesn't make sense, as I already said, my post which she points out refers to this much earlier post of Messiah's:

Hey, I'm sorta here. I don't know that I'll be able to read much of the last ten pages but I'll be available for deadline stuff.

It doesn't make sense at all to take my conversation previously and call it scummy and think I am referring to the same thing later on by giving a reason by I think Messiah may be town. In the first post I used "last." By saying earlier in my last quoted post, I am obviously not refering to Messaih's "last post."

But all of this boils down to Priatecat's main argument: I am scum before I don't pay attention. She never questioned may bitching at Mac and Qwints, so one can assume she doesn't protest my claim against them. They should be scum too by that logic. By the fact she couldn't keep up herself, she is also undeniably scum now in her own light.

1. the part that I bolded is referencing the post that I said you had missed. that post did not "suck", there was not a sucky thing about it.
2. the part that I italicized was where you referenced his last post is a ginormous misrep of messiah's post that I quoted and said you had not read. cos he did care and he did comment on the wagon. you said

his last post

. so it is not clear

at all

that you were referencing the post that you quoted

cos it was not his last post

. so I am not the one talking bullshit here, you are, and all you are managing to do is dig yourself deeper and deeper.

[buldermar]

Every other game in which I've been scum, I've won.

This is hella fallacial son. Just 'cause you won games don't mean you ain't shown tells, just means they ain't been caught.

That's all the same in terms of the probability of getting correctly lynched versus the probability of getting mislynched.

[buldermar]

Jal, what do I have to do to convince you to vote Piratecat with me?

[Piratecat]

I'm not disagreeable to a Bulder lynch, but I still think Slandaar's claim is far too easy to fake, and it hasn't changed my opinion of him.
Disagree with Mollie, a lynch - even a mislynch - gives us information which is something we are desperately in need of due to the number of inactives in this game.
Will be around all day for any last-minute shenanigans.

not if slaandar agrees to mason us and guess what - he did! we can try to work something out on the masonboard. we will have 3 heads on that board I am sure we can figure something out in order to clear him in the event that I am nked.

I rarely go for the mislynch for the same reasons you posted above but in this case I think it is worth it. we still votes to analyze on the 2 major wagons on town and that is something to work with as far as voting analysis and motivation. what we are doing here is bottlenecking scum's options and this will have a greater impact on the game I think. it really is worth the risk.

[Jal]

Oh jesus christ that is some horrible back tracking there, Piratecat. You don't even know what argument you are making and I won't be responding to that mess anymore.

Buldy, it depends. If we assume Slandaar town we should let him try to mason. What are your thoughts on Messiah's claim?

[Piratecat]

no. this is why you should have done some legitimate scum hunting instead of the lazy pig-headed half-assed crap that you have pulled.

if I lose another game cos of your retarded trolleytracking I am going to never want to play with you again for a very long long time unless until you grow up.

jal and buldey for sure, maybe majiffy and probably the kernel as well cos they have both been off of v/la and have NOT DONE SHIT

Hey are you going to pull this crap on me as well when/if I out/get mislynched and you realize that you were silly to think I'm scum?

oh god you are such scum

Mollie, you've never seen a scum tell from me (at least not what I know of)

.

I made a whole bunch of notes on my spreadsheet from the game that I gmed where you were...scum.

I've only ever lost a single game as scum, and you weren't a participant in that game. Every other game in which I've been scum, I've won. On the contrary, you have mislynched me as town before, thinking you have picked up on some scumslip. I don't make scumslip as scum, but I may make something that could look as scumslips as town because I don't particularly care about looking town as town (but perhaps I should). In summary, you're probably better off lynching me when you can't find a single reason to do so than when you think you have actually found one.

I have never mislynched you as town. you were town flailing in the KISS game so I was going for metal. it was jake that wouldn't budge.

and my reasons for wanting you lynched are very good. we are town and you are not.

[Slandaar]

I will target Pirate, protection roles target Pirate; I am then confirmed town with Pirate or Pirate is scum and I will let yall know tomorrow if that is the case, or I just die which is actually quite good if I take the nk at this point.

Now, look, we need to lynch SOMEONE

VOTE: Viomi

That slot is scum I don't think anyone will disagree; I think we can make it happen.

Also: 'Test of loyalty' is the name of it.

[Piratecat]

Jal, what do I have to do to convince you to vote Piratecat with me?

so we have a way to

[/i]clear

[/i] us but you are still wanting to lynch us anyways?

why not just announce that you are scum and be done with it already

[buldermar]

Oh jesus christ that is some horrible back tracking there, Piratecat. You don't even know what argument you are making and I won't be responding to that mess anymore.

Buldy, it depends. If we assume Slandaar town we should let him try to mason. What are your thoughts on Messiah's claim?

I'm slightly more convinced that he's scum after his claim, but it's not a big deal. I'd still rather lynch Piratekitten.

Even if het does mason it doesn't confirm shit, btw.

[buldermar]

no. this is why you should have done some legitimate scum hunting instead of the lazy pig-headed half-assed crap that you have pulled.

if I lose another game cos of your retarded trolleytracking I am going to never want to play with you again for a very long long time unless until you grow up.

jal and buldey for sure, maybe majiffy and probably the kernel as well cos they have both been off of v/la and have NOT DONE SHIT

Hey are you going to pull this crap on me as well when/if I out/get mislynched and you realize that you were silly to think I'm scum?

oh god you are such scum

Mollie, you've never seen a scum tell from me (at least not what I know of)

.

I made a whole bunch of notes on my spreadsheet from the game that I gmed where you were...scum.

I've only ever lost a single game as scum, and you weren't a participant in that game. Every other game in which I've been scum, I've won. On the contrary, you have mislynched me as town before, thinking you have picked up on some scumslip. I don't make scumslip as scum, but I may make something that could look as scumslips as town because I don't particularly care about looking town as town (but perhaps I should). In summary, you're probably better off lynching me when you can't find a single reason to do so than when you think you have actually found one.

I have never mislynched you as town. you were town flailing in the KISS game so I was going for metal. it was jake that wouldn't budge.

and my reasons for wanting you lynched are very good. we are town and you are not.

You never lynched me when I was scum.

[Piratecat]

Oh jesus christ that is some horrible back tracking there, Piratecat. You don't even know what argument you are making and I won't be responding to that mess anymore.

Buldy, it depends. If we assume Slandaar town we should let him try to mason. What are your thoughts on Messiah's claim?

I didn't backtrack on a single thing. you tried through obfuscation and it failed. miserably.

messiah is town

[Jal]

I don't like Messiah's claim, especially with there possibly being a cop.

Slandaar, so why are you off Messiah?

P-edit: No.

[buldermar]

Jal, what do I have to do to convince you to vote Piratecat with me?

so we have a way to

[/i]clear

[/i] us but you are still wanting to lynch us anyways?

why not just announce that you are scum and be done with it already

Stop thinking I make silly scumslips like this, it's beyond retarded.

[Piratecat]

@ KoC

let's flash lynch buldey gogogog

help me drum up some business

[Slandaar]

Slandaar, so why are you off Messiah?

Hi Jal I am still around and will vote him if others do but the fact is we probably wont be lynching him it looks like so how about we try and actually lynch someone?

Whos fault is this? the people who didn't all pile on him yesterday instead balancing the wagons and making it impossible to lynch anyone; Cryo being a major culprit.