Open 480 - C9++ Game Over!

[Thurhame]

or

• Susan is scum with HD, and Susan performed the kill, and there is an unknown SK who shot Apozzle.

Also, Safety can't be scum with either Susan or Beli. If he's scum with NS or HD, then there is no SK; but if he's scum with someone who claimed VT, then there is an SK.

[Thurhame]

or

• Susan is scum with someone who claimed VT, and Susan performed the kill, and HD is the SK who shot Apozzle.

I really should think this all the way through before I start listing stuff.

[Thurhame]

Oh, and

L-1

.

[ac1983fan]

Right, so given SD!scum would have 0 motivation to do that (other than possibly a very poorly thought on gambit) I'm willing to hammer Susan if there's no serious objection within, say, 24 hours? Unless someone else does it first. Heh.

[Human Destroyer]

Also, Safety can't be scum with either Susan or Beli.

If Safety is scum, it has to be with Beli because we already had a GF flip

[implosion]

So then claimed letters are MMCCCVB. If safety were scum, then we would be at MMVBTTT (since beli would be fake) which is impossible with the godfather flip. So yeah, popc is confscum. Awesome.

NS and HD are also town barring an SK. Which is surprising, at least a little, but there are probably 7 letters at this point. It's possible, albeit unlikely, that beli is scum. If he is, then he's completely doomed, because he'll have to claim a result every day on which there's a kill, so i'm going to ignore that possibility.

If popc flips scum roleblocker, then either NS or Beli will be alive tomorrow to clear a VT claim.

[implosion]

yeah, i want to do this and there's nothing else that needs to happen today.

VOTE: pieceofpecanpie

[Gammagooey]

Day 3-The Only Votecount (#25)

pieceofpecanpie (5) SafetyDance, Belisarius, Human Destroyer, Thurhame, implosion
Nobody Special (1) ac1983fan
Belisarius (0)
Human Destroyer(0)
ac1983fan (0)
Thurhame(0)
SafetyDance (0)
implosion (0)
Cheery Dog (0)
Apozzle (0)
Not Voting: pieceofpecanpie, Cheery Dog, Nobody Special

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

pieceofpecanpie has been lynched!

Deadline: April 15th at 11:59 EST

[Gammagooey]

The day was cut short when SafetyDance announced that some dude in a pie costume was part of the mafia. Before he could explain anything else, several people had vanished from the meeting, taking the pie guy with them. A few moments later, a truck revved its engines, then peeled out onto a road towards the Greatly Convenient Canyon That-Has-Clearly-Been-Here-The-Whole-Time. After watching the truck make a sick ramp jump into it, everyone recieves a text message.

"I wasn't trying to kill you guys godamnit"

Several seconds later, your phones buzz again, this time coinciding with the crash of the truck at the bottom of the canyon.

"P.S. you guys are jerks."

pieceofpecanpie was lynched! He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 3 starts now! Deadline for night actions is 7am EST on April 6th.

[Gammagooey]

The sun rises to a gruesome battle just inside the town limits. As bullets fly and the townspeople take cover, SafetyDance and Nobody Special both take serious looking wounds.

"PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER, STAY WITH ME!"

SafetyDance looks down at his wound with a curious look on his face. "Actually I don't think I'm actually injured. Is this red food dye or something?"

He stands up and starts brushing himself off, then goes wide-eyed and takes a look behind him, seeing nothing.

"Huh. I was pretty sure something completely unexpected and ridiculous was going to come and kill me since I just went through something that looked like me dying."

"Hmm."

"You know actually, do you guys mind if me and Nobody Special just leave? I'm pretty sure something stupid and fatal is going to happen to Nobody Special and I if we stick around much longer. You guys can pretend we died if you want."

So SafetyDance and Nobody Special hauled ass out of there, then immediately got killed on the border of town by the mongols. Right. Those guys.

SafetyDance,

Town 1-shot Cop

, has been killed n3!
Nobody Special,

Town Roleblocker

, has been killed n3!

Day 4 begins now!

Deadline is April 20th at 6pm EST.

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Day 2 >_> lynch flavor is up now
juuuuust a little behind

[SafetyDance]

Fuck.

[Thurhame]

Is it just me, or did we just get an impossible result?

[Thurhame]

@Mod:

I'd like a confirmation that our cop SafetyDance and his guilty claim pieceofpecanpie are both Town.

Yes, they are both town, and there have been no mod errors thus far in this game.

@Safety:

Neveer, ever, EVER as a Cop claim Guilty on someone you don't ACTUALLY have a guilty on.

Assuming the mod didn't make a mistake, I am very mad at Safety right now. It's only good luck that he died so we don't waste a lynch on him.

[Thurhame]

HD, did you use your vig shot?

[Cheery Dog]

I think we had a failed gambit happen.
and then an unthinking vig?
SafetyDance was confirmed town from Beli's day 2 claim. And they couldn't have been partners due to massclaim yesterday meaning not enough letters to fill what we know was true due to the godfather flip.

What it does mean is that hd is now officially the only player that can be an sk.
And it's either two vt claims or beli (which would confirm hd town due to letters) and a vt.
I think we should therefore be looking into the vt claims (including me for everyone else) and lynch one of them today.

though I think it may be better to no lynch, if hd is an sk we need him to shoot scum tonight for town to have any chance if winning.
it would also give us one less vt most likely for us to need to look at.

VOTE: no lynch

[Belisarius]

But HD claimed one-shot vig; if he's telling the truth, he

can't

shoot, and if he's an SK he won't since 2 kills tonight will ensure his lynch tomorrow.

With a godfather flip, though, even if there's no SK today is mylo.

VOTE: no lynch

No Result on Implosion last night.

[ac1983fan]

SAFETY THAT WAS LITERALLY THE WORST GAMBIT
ALSO CHEERY BELI GET OFF OF NO LYNCH WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS DOING
EVEN IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR TODAY WE STILL NEED TO USE TODAY TO GET AS MUCH INFO AS WE CAN OTHERWISE WE LOST
SERIOUSLY SAFETY WHAT THE HELL WE WERE IN SUCH A DAMN GOOD POSITION AND THEN YOU FAKED A RESULT WHAT WERE YOU EVEN THINKING
WHAT
WERE
YOU
EVEN
THINKING

ldhgldfh
I can't with this game
I am so frustrated with all of you right now
I just can't I really just can't

OK
SO

WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE FLIPS:
MMCB???
Which has at a minimum one more non-T (which I believe is almost certainly a V given last night's kills, although I suppose it could just be a serial killer who is being really elaborate in which case wowee)

ugh
I don't even know how to proceed
dflghidfkghdfkhgash
WE WERE IN SUCH A GOOD POSITION
AND THEN EVERYTHING WENT WRONG

[Belisarius]

EVEN IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR TODAY WE STILL NEED TO USE TODAY TO GET AS MUCH INFO AS WE CAN

Which is why if someone hammers the no lynch early we'll have a strong scumspect for tomorrow.

Meh, I don't really have any objection to unvoting for the time being though, so just to make you happy:

UNVOTE:

[Human Destroyer]

Checking in (still on V/LA) but I shot the fuck out of Safety

Why the shit did you fakeclaim a guilty that isn't cool

[Belisarius]

Yeah, Safety, you should probably explain that gambit in the Dead QT because everyone's going to want to know.

[implosion]

Checking in (still on V/LA) but I shot the fuck out of Safety

Why the shit did you fakeclaim a guilty that isn't cool

...this still isn't okay :\.

even though safety lied he was still confirmed town - there was no possible setup that had him as scum. if he were scum, that'd imply that belisarius was scum, in which case there would only be four claimed town letters, in which case either there would be no godfather or both nobody special and you would have to be scum which would imply that there were four scum, which is impossible.

In other words, either safetydance lied about his result or someone else lied about their roleclaim. In other words, fuck you safety.

the setup is probably mmcccbv but like, we were genuinely in a very good position yesterday and now we're in a genuinely terrible position. Kinda irritated but i'm just not in a mood that allows me to rage right now.

[Thurhame]

even though safety lied he was still confirmed town - there was no possible setup that had him as scum.

What is this?

Go get your head checked.

[Thurhame]

Safety could have been scum with anyone

except

Beli. So when Susan flipped Town, that made Safety confirmed Scum based on his claim. HD made the right decision.

[Thurhame]

The possible setups at this point are:

• CVMMBTT: 2 Mafia. Beli is lying scum.
• CCCMMBT: 2 Mafia + SK. HD is lying scum (and almost certainly the SK).
• CCCVMMB: 2 Mafia. Both are VT claims.

[implosion]

Safety could have been scum with anyone

except

Beli. So when Susan flipped Town, that made Safety confirmed Scum based on his claim. HD made the right decision.

No - if safety was scum, then beli HAD to be scum. Beli had an innocent result on safety. If beli was town, then safety was town. The contrapositive of that statement is that if safety was scum, then beli was scum.

At the moment when pecan died, safety was, formally speaking, both confirmed town and confirmed scum. This meant, with certainty, that SOMEONE (not necessarily, but probably, safety) lied about something as town.