Micro 152 - BSG Mafia (Galactica Survives?)

[buldermar]

We're going to need one more vote once she doesn't hammer, but it should be obvious for even the retards in this game that she's scum at that point.

[fferyllt]

Yes, in your second post after I called you out on the implicit assumption in your first post, you said "should you turn out to be town".

I have to go back through this. It's at the root of my uncertainties about you. After I got past the WKing I still had this, along with your apparently not getting that a Kara Thrace safe claim should not have been wasted on a VT role claim. In one post, it looked like you were even arguing that I'd claimed a power role.

I don't have any flavor knowledge at all, but I know on theoretical grounds alone that you can't use it as an argument for being town. I believe I've pointed out why at least three times already - don't make me do it again.

Please do point out in what post I was arguing that you had claimed a power role and additionally, regardless of whether or not you succesfully pull such post out of your little scum-hat, explain to me why it should be indicative of alignment in the first place.

This one.

Ofc you'd use a great fake power role claim if it would keep you alive -

which is exactly what you're attempting to make it do right now.

Will read 309 tomorrow.

I'll admit that was phrased poorly, but given the context it should be quite obvious to you that what I meant is that you'd ofc use a great fake flavor role claim that's commonly attributed a power role if it would keep you alive.

And here you make the argument again that I would intentionally do something bad for my team if I were scum.

The first time we went through all this, that argument on your part pretty much convinced me that you had to be scum because it's not predicated on any sort of respect for my scum game. It's contemptuous of it. And it's in stark contrast to your initial arguments that I'm too valuable to d1 lynch because of my town game.

Townie outrage about being misread. I guess we both have it.

[fferyllt]

I have to go back through this.

It's at the root of my uncertainties about you. After I got past the WKing I still had this, along with your apparently not getting that a Kara Thrace safe claim should not have been wasted on a VT role claim. In one post, it looked like you were even arguing that I'd claimed a power role.

Second time's the charm.

[pitoli]

CAN WE PLEASE JUST LYNCH ff ALREADY?

This post looks fed up and frustrated.

That's exactly how I feel as well.

But, it does at least look like town frustration. I don't think I've ever seen someone this certain I'm scum and wrong before. Well, maybe once, but the guy had a lot of issues.

orc, vote me please, and I'll hammer.

Is this a bluff??

[fferyllt]

Not it all. It's resignation.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

fuck you all

i think this is a bad vote

and when ff flips town i will hate all of you

please let me be wrong

VOTE: fery

[orcinus_theoriginal]

well no actually

i think there is a decent chance of fery flipping scum

i just don't think that this is the correct vote for the day

so yeah actually i'm good with this

[fferyllt]

VOTE: fferyllt

SD next please.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: fferyllt

SD next please.

what were you?

[fferyllt]

Town.

It's not quite 4 am my time. If there's anything you want to talk about before nightfall, make it quick.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Town.

It's not quite 4 am my time. If there's anything you want to talk about before nightfall, make it quick.

Why SD over a policy lynch

What is buldemar I can't read him

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And how sure are you about Syryana because I sort of want to play the rest of the game with Syryana as conftown.

[fferyllt]

He and pitoli have stayed well clear of my bandwagon. Plus all the other stuff involving his absurd lists.

I think the earlier competing wagons were probably town vs town.

I don't know that I can really read him either. I think so but it takes a test-to-destruction to get there. The way he flipped out when I went back through the stuff that had made me think he was scum earlier does feel like town outrage.

[fferyllt]

Syryana gives me a town vibe.

[fferyllt]

I don't know that I can really read him either. I think so but it takes a test-to-destruction to get there. The way he flipped out when I went back through the stuff that had made me think he was scum earlier does feel like town outrage.

This was about buldermar.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Okay

How dangerous is keeping Buldermar alive if he were scum? How good is his town game?

How strong is your town vibe on Syryana?

[fferyllt]

Okay

How dangerous is keeping Buldermar alive if he were scum? How good is his town game?

Very dangerous. That's why I could not leave the question alone.

[quote[How strong is your town vibe on Syryana?[/quote]
Pretty strong. I wouldn't take it to the bank, and if I were alive day 2 and beyond I'd reevaluate at the drop of a hat if there were any reason to.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Deltabacon/Lurker/Nero need to be sorted, how?

[fferyllt]

No more time to sort Deltabacon is my biggest regret about self-hammering.

I think town's power roles are going to have to do something about one or both of Nero/Lurker.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

All right.

I think that's enough to go on, leave your reads as a list one more time for good measure if you want, but I'm satisfied.

Sorry bout the early tunneling, and I feel we could've worked alongside each other better in the game.

Take care

[fferyllt]

Town:

orcinus
Syryana

Unsure leaning town

buldermar

Unsure leaning scum

pitoli

Scum

SD

Who the fuck knows

Lurker
Nero
Deltabacon

[fferyllt]

I feel we could've worked alongside each other better in the game.

Me too.

Good luck.

I look forward to playing another game with you.

[fferyllt]

Funny that buldermar disappeared. I thought he'd have a few last questions for me too.

[fferyllt]

We're going to need one more vote once she doesn't hammer, but it should be obvious for even the retards in this game that she's scum at that point.

Quoting for posterity.

If he's scum and convinced me to take myself out of the game, it will color every game interaction we have until the heat death of the universe.

[buldermar]

Yes, in your second post after I called you out on the implicit assumption in your first post, you said "should you turn out to be town".

I have to go back through this. It's at the root of my uncertainties about you. After I got past the WKing I still had this, along with your apparently not getting that a Kara Thrace safe claim should not have been wasted on a VT role claim. In one post, it looked like you were even arguing that I'd claimed a power role.

I don't have any flavor knowledge at all, but I know on theoretical grounds alone that you can't use it as an argument for being town. I believe I've pointed out why at least three times already - don't make me do it again.

Please do point out in what post I was arguing that you had claimed a power role and additionally, regardless of whether or not you succesfully pull such post out of your little scum-hat, explain to me why it should be indicative of alignment in the first place.

This one.

Ofc you'd use a great fake power role claim if it would keep you alive -

which is exactly what you're attempting to make it do right now.

Will read 309 tomorrow.

I'll admit that was phrased poorly, but given the context it should be quite obvious to you that what I meant is that you'd ofc use a great fake flavor role claim that's commonly attributed a power role if it would keep you alive.

And here you make the argument again that I would intentionally do something bad for my team if I were scum.

The first time we went through all this, that argument on your part pretty much convinced me that you had to be scum because it's not predicated on any sort of respect for my scum game. It's contemptuous of it. And it's in stark contrast to your initial arguments that I'm too valuable to d1 lynch because of my town game.

Townie outrage about being misread. I guess we both have it.

I still think you either don't or pretend to not understand the point I am trying to convey. I'd go as far as stating that because I'm making the point I'm making, I must think highly of your scum game.