Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[Messiah]

It looks like he unvoted because of my result in 1980, but in 1981 I think he was clarifying that he had just noticed the supposed innocent investigation crumb and that is actually why he unvoted. Is that accurate, Buldermar?

[buldermar]

It looks like he unvoted because of my result in 1980, but in 1981 I think he was clarifying that he had just noticed the supposed innocent investigation crumb and that is actually why he unvoted. Is that accurate, Buldermar?

No, both were because of the supposed investigation crumb.

[Piratecat]

Yeah; UN is barely doing anything, but attack a post by Slandaar.<-(During Day 2)

I don't even know where you guys stand in terms of reads. The us being town was the only read you have given out recently.

It was pretty damning evidence that he was lying through his teeth. His whole claim was really bogus, but the fact he claimed to have targetted us, but then said 'oh hey guys they are scum'.

I don't think Messiah is scum unless him and Slandaar did some awesome gambit here.

[Piratecat]

@Buld:

How did you miss this post?

[borkjerfkin]

It looks like he unvoted because of my result in 1980, but in 1981 I think he was clarifying that he had just noticed the supposed innocent investigation crumb and that is actually why he unvoted. Is that accurate, Buldermar?

And considering he did it in a post where Mollie was

talking about your result

, I find this whole situation just bizarre. I also don't like the fact that buldermar says since PC just made a vague "crumb" (which she claims herself was not one) instead of claiming something makes it somehow more likely to come from town.

p-edit: I agree that Messiah is probably town just based on how the whole thing with Slandaar went down.

[Messiah]

It looks like he unvoted because of my result in 1980, but in 1981 I think he was clarifying that he had just noticed the supposed innocent investigation crumb and that is actually why he unvoted. Is that accurate, Buldermar?

No, both were because of the supposed investigation crumb.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

I don't see the Buldermar!Scum in this. If he wanted a reason to unvote why wouldn't he just use my results? He obviously believed he saw a crumb.

[Bacde]

we are lynching messiah today I'm pretty sure

We're not lynching the guy who caught scum in a lie yesterday.

VOTE: bacde

wait we caught scum in a lie yesterday'?

sheesh I am out of the loop

[Messiah]

Also, I've hydra'd with Uber several times before and he was very consistent in neglecting the hydra every time, to some extent. (And so was I, so no offense intended to him obv.)

If that's why people are suspicious of the CG hydra I'd suggest they rethink their reasoning.

[Bacde]

we are lynching messiah today I'm pretty sure

No No messiah is town.

Why are you interested in getting him lynched?

Also, What happened to your gut read on Cryo?

gut read on cryo dropped after yesterday ended up being a scum lynch

[buldermar]

@Buld:

How did you miss this post?

Do you think I'm scum and intentionally ignoring your VT claim or where is this going?

[buldermar]

It looks like he unvoted because of my result in 1980, but in 1981 I think he was clarifying that he had just noticed the supposed innocent investigation crumb and that is actually why he unvoted. Is that accurate, Buldermar?

And considering he did it in a post where Mollie was

talking about your result

, I find this whole situation just bizarre. I also don't like the fact that buldermar says since PC just made a vague "crumb" (which she claims herself was not one) instead of claiming something makes it somehow more likely to come from town.

p-edit: I agree that Messiah is probably town just based on how the whole thing with Slandaar went down.

I thought it was a crumb at the time and I still think it easily could have been, but I obviously know it wasn't at this point. You're suggesting that I deliberately pretended to be thinking that it was a crumb - for what purpose exactly? What is the scum motivation for doing so?

[borkjerfkin]

Yeah, that's what I meant.

I don't see the Buldermar!Scum in this. If he wanted a reason to unvote why wouldn't he just use my results? He obviously believed he saw a crumb.

I agree that I am finding it difficult to see definitive scum motivation here; however the whole angle from buldermar yesterday and today has just been really obtuse and pings me as trying to focus on something other than the actual pertinent issues at hand or pretending to not be reading.

p-edit: heh

[Piratecat]

not that anybody listens to me but here it is

if slaandar flips scum there are 2 teams I think. there is a reason scum slaandar played a gambit like that; it was cos he thought we were on the other scum team and that he would get some cred with our lynch. too bad he misjudged and we are town! lol

wasn't it the guy that buldey replaced the one who brought up multi-ball? I bet he was giving a shout out. he soft-claimed yesterday - he and jal both did. scum know about the other due to how small there team would be. it would explain why everyone looked scummy when you count in the specials (specials always look scummy to me unless they drop a special tell which is why I hunt for them like mad).

uber guile is for sure scum omg you dummies are going to let him win again aren't you. thinking majiffy is his partner. buldey and jal are somehow all tangled up in that as well.

I think nero is town and people probably should listen to him. best post in thread is 1829. there was def scum who stayed away from the fiasco yesterday. oh and mac's post to jal was a huge slip. let me go find it.

part of me thinks PC could be scum here. I think it was Jal who floated the idea of scum talking about stuff they know as though they are guessing the set-up and I think this is what PC is doing here in the bolded. it's such a far-fetched idea. notice the use of "if Slandaar flips scum" when he's bullshitting about masonizing her, if she's town she would know he'll flip scum but if she's on a different team, she wouldn't know.

then there's the bullshit "huge slip" I made which was a clear as day typo, that's trying to link me and Jal. Jal flipped town, does that change anything PC?

VOTE: PirateCat

jesus christ give it up

[buldermar]

It looks like he unvoted because of my result in 1980, but in 1981 I think he was clarifying that he had just noticed the supposed innocent investigation crumb and that is actually why he unvoted. Is that accurate, Buldermar?

No, both were because of the supposed investigation crumb.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

I don't see the Buldermar!Scum in this. If he wanted a reason to unvote why wouldn't he just use my results? He obviously believed he saw a crumb.

If I wanted to unvote and needed a reason there is about a trillion better options than claiming to have seen a crumb that isn't there.

[borkjerfkin]

No, you're quite correct. I don't know.

UNVOTE:

No longer feel like pushing this right now.

[buldermar]

Yeah, that's what I meant.

I don't see the Buldermar!Scum in this. If he wanted a reason to unvote why wouldn't he just use my results? He obviously believed he saw a crumb.

I agree that I am finding it difficult to see definitive scum motivation here; however the whole angle from buldermar yesterday and today has just been really obtuse and pings me as trying to focus on something other than the actual pertinent issues at hand or pretending to not be reading.

p-edit: heh

I'm not "pretending to not be reading", I'm actually not reading this game carefully, which is probably why I missed the VT out by mollie and the result by Messiah in the first place.

[buldermar]

No, you're quite correct. I don't know.

UNVOTE:

No longer feel like pushing this right now.

Alright, thanks.

Now only the two scums (GoatGuy and Majiffy) are voting me, and they'll find some arbitrary reason to unvote me fairly soon as well.

[Colonel Guile]

Yeah; UN is barely doing anything, but attack a post by Slandaar.<-(During Day 2)

I don't even know where you guys stand in terms of reads. The us being town was the only read you have given out recently.

It was pretty damning evidence that he was lying through his teeth. His whole claim was really bogus, but the fact he claimed to have targetted us, but then said 'oh hey guys they are scum'.

I don't think Messiah is scum unless him and Slandaar did some awesome gambit here.

Ya, we both let the game snowball and had to read like 1500 post just to catch up. Most of our reads are in our heads. But we are currently discussing Buld, cryo, and mac. I'm suspicious of <--- those, but I need to go over it with my other head.

The good news is that I'm caught up and I discovered that I can log in on my main account with Firefox and log in on this with Explorer. So then I don't have to go through the whole Log off log on log off log on process. So I should be more active. As long as my bosses don't discover that I still have internet.

[borkjerfkin]

I don't see either of them as scum.

Like at all.

[borkjerfkin]

^ was to buld

[Colonel Guile]

Buldermar's VT confusion sounds Legit. Reduces my suspicion of him.

[Piratecat]

Right, so forget about the bus driver/redirector stuff.

I saw someone visit Buldermar. I don't know that it would be beneficial to reveal who it was though? We have quite a few dead/outed power-roles already, but I'm open to other opinions on the matter.

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I'd like to lynch Mac. Pretty sure he's scum.

vote: Mac

He was one of the people that shitvoted me to counter the D1 Slandaar wagon, he lurked noticeably (his name being displayed on the bottom as browsing 3-4 times that I saw) during the period of time that Slandaar claimed to receive a negative result on PirateCat and conveniently avoided taking any sides, and then he posted IMMEDIATELY after I outed my watcher result and tried to discredit me for holding the result back.

This is pretty obvious.

I noticed that too. he stayed away from the d1 end of day shit show as well. but I am pretty sure buldey is scum. and it warms the cockles of my heart that everyone else is starting to come around!

also uber guile uber guile uber guile. <------ he thinks he is being sneaky with his sneaking around but we are onto him!

[Piratecat]

I saw someone visit Buldermar. I don't know that it would be beneficial to reveal who it was though? We have quite a few dead/outed power-roles already, but I'm open to other opinions on the matter.

I think everyone here can figure out that it probably was PirateCat.

wat

we are vt

you are not even paying attention are you

[Piratecat]

Yes, Buld, please explain to me how a VT can magically ninja to visit you?

If you're a VT then it was someone else.

no way!

[qwints]

we are lynching messiah today I'm pretty sure

We're not lynching the guy who caught scum in a lie yesterday.

VOTE: bacde

wait we caught scum in a lie yesterday'?

sheesh I am out of the loop

Slandaar claimed that he targeted PC for masonizing and got a negative result, which meant he knew she was scum. Messiah revealed that Slandaar didn't actually visit PC. Seriously, why are you still voting Messiah?

Messiah's result and the ensuing conversation makes me think Buldemar's town.