The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

[kuribo]

jason, if you're town, you owe me, Tammy and Empire a HUGE fucking apology post game for your play

[kuribo]

and rest assured when you do apologize, I will tell you to eat a bowl of fucking dicks

[kuribo]

and you're too fucking stupid to even try to pretend like you really think I'm scum.

You had NO FUCKING ANSWER for the questions I gave you.

You've LITERALLY been posting THE EXACT SAME BULLSHIT for MONTHS ON END.

You've completely ignored the fact that if you're a mislynch, YOU'RE PRETTY FUCKING EASY because your play has been BULLSHIT.

You've completely ignored the fact that despite SAD thinking I was scum, I WAS ABSOLUTELY AGAINST HIS FUCKING LYNCH.

You've completely ignored the fact that I WAS RIGHT ABOUT NOS NOT BEING TOWN.

You are the LAZIEST

WORST


FUCKING

PLAYER.

Yes, god dammit, I do think you're scum, because if you're town, you should be BLACKLISTED from every fucking game, and I'll have no fucking choice but to CHOKE YOU WITH MY FUCKING MIND through the internet.

[kuribo]

worthless sack of shit

[kuribo]

and now, NOW

to try and frame it like people who want you out of the game must be scum?


FUCK


YOU.

Any town player worth their salt had damn well better be on that lynch and if you were town and another player were pulling the bullshit you've pulled, you'd be wanting their lynch too. So fuck you for making it sound like you're easy pickings.

You better fucking be scum, because if you're town, you will never, fucking ever hear the end of it from me. Fuck you.

[Shaft]

Day 5, Votecount 14

]Benmage (2) - Shaft

Is this correct?

[DeasVail]

Shaft is a mafia doublevoter LYYYYYNCH

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 5, Votecount 15

JasonT1981 (3) - camn, Benmage, kuribo
Benmage (1) - Shaft
camn (1) - JasonT1981

Not voting (2) :

Cerulean, Deasvail

• With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 9th of April at 11:59am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-04-09 19:59:28)
  

Previous VC error fixed.

Civility. Remember it's a rule. Don't make me fucking eviscerate you.

[jasonT1981]

lol kuribo rage........

I point out he callled me town the page before hand

and he explodes

LOL

[Cerulean]

Okay I can't post any ore before deadline and vodka says weeeeeeeeeee there's nothing else to do today.

VOTE: jason

I humbly request a night kill. Please and thank you.

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 5, Votecount 16

JasonT1981 (4) - camn, Benmage, kuribo, Cerulean

Benmage (1) - Shaft
camn (1) - JasonT1981

Not voting (1) :

Deasvail

• With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 9th of April at 11:59am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-04-09 19:59:28)
  

[The Baltimore Sun]

The Wire, Season 1: Episode 10 - The Cost

And then he dropped the bracelets...

McNulty got drunk. He decided to talk trash to those he was investigating. They soon figured out he was PO-lice.

His reaction:

JasonT1981

-

Jimmy McNulty

-

Informed Officer for the

PO-lice

was lynched Day 5.

Night 5 Begins. 48 hours for actions. (expired on 2013-04-11 20:00:54) is the deadline for actions.

[The Baltimore Sun]

The Wire, Season 1: Episode 11 - The Hunt

Dope on the damn table

Hey, Wee-Bey. The POlice coming for you.


Run? Too late!

Cerulean

-

Roland "Wee-Bey" Brice

-

3-shot Vigilante aligned with the

Barksdale Organization

was arrested Night 5.



Episode 11 will begin shortly.

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 6, Votecount 0

Not voting (5) :

Benmage, camn, Deasvail, kuribo, Shaft

• With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 25th of April at 1:15am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-04-25 20:15:28)

[kuribo]

Okay, so, updates from the neighborhood:

1) Tammy and Empire expected to die today.

2) They made an extremely compelling case against Kise which I am more than willing to go over.

3) They felt very strongly about this.

4) I agree with them, and so does DV.

5) They've charged us to carry on their torch.

6) Camn, you're either with us or against us on this.

7) Ben, the time is now for the Kise lynch.

8) seriously, are you gonna make me post the case?

[camn]

###
VOTE: BENMAGE
###

Looking at TGAH's posts, his push on Jason makes me think he either wasn't afraid to buss, or didnt know the whole group.
Regardless, we have protection of Benmage here:

You're attacking him because "OMG Benmage hasn't corralled the scum already." It's a logical fallacy and using it as the basis to say someone is scum is quite scummy.

We have

fake cognitive hydra dissonance

(go ahead and hate, it had to be fake since TGAH was scum) here:

I am however waiting for him

[his hydra partner]

to respond to something regarding Benmage/Jason as my reads on those slots are the opposite of him right now.

AND a RVS vote for distancing here:

vote: benmage

for great justice!

--------------------

Then there is Jasons late-game push, here:

Ben has been a long term scum read of mine, with 2 days to go I need to vote... since I am the only other wagon and I won't vote myself. vote: Benmage

Obv scum distancing.
(PS, Id like to point out that Jason fully could have been caught on the

REAL LIFE EXCUSES TELL

, as well as the inverted

THAT SUCKS

tell)

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Now Ben himself, I wouldn't expect many classic tells from him as scum.. but here we see some early distancing- hate with no vote:

unvote vote Plessie

@absta's 5 pages in 24 hours is pretty standard, if not actually a little slow for the start of a 19p game. I wouldn't have been surprised to see 10.
--It seems like a pre-excuse, when the game hasn't moved quickly. Hell there's been comments on how slow it's actually moving.

Slight scum:
absta101
Safetydance
JasonT1981
TheGreatestAmericanHero (Konowa/roflcopter hydra)

Scum:
petapan

Actually this vote lasted a whole 7 minutes:

unvote vote Jason

Pet wagon is still good.

And his subtle protection of the asskicking I am sure he sensed his parter would get trying to 1v1 against me:

I don't have the energy to read this camnvabstas....

----------------------[]

This day has hit the drag mark. rofl's posting on site... I guess waiting on other head for a proper fakeclaim.

All in all ? Scum.

Setup summary next, to show why this lynch is optimal.

[camn]

Ok: remaining players, and claims:
(ps- I knew that the scum would kill cerulean last night, so I prepped all this. Nothing gives me energy like lynching scum-Jason, and knowing I will live through the night )

Benmage

- GOON

camn

- GOON

Deasvail

– Daytalk/Bodyguard

kuribo

- Neiborizer

Shaft

- DOC

Here's the deal- Im town, and I think there is ONE and only one scum left. Please convince me if this isnt the case.
I am pretty sure Kuribo is town, because scum with his role makes very very little sense.
DV, I think he could CERTAINLY be scum. but I have a plan.
And shaft- same deal

So this is how it plays in my head.
We lynch Ben.

if the game isn't over (which I think it will be, but meh)...than one of the protective roles is scum, imo.

SO

, we agree in thread that Shaft protects either me or kuribo, whichever he can still.. and DV the other.

Then

, whoever is scum HAS to kill one of the protective roles. There is math to this, but it would take too long to explain right now- I'll do it later. Please try and work it for yourself so we can discuss.
That leaves us with Kuribo/camn/[dvORshaft] in endgame, right? This is an endgame I am comfortable with, in the off chance I am wrong about Ben, which is unlikely. Since, imo, and I hope in kuribo's, the two protective roles are the most uncertain slots... forcing one of them to die is awesome, and lylo is easy.
Town win. Unless kuribo is scum.

[camn]

oops- sorry kuribo, i missed your post.

I think that route is suboptimal... but I am of course willing to think it through.
And I am CERTAINLY not about to be steamrolled by your "with us or against us" garbage.
Now is the time for measured discussion. Lets see the reasoning. I am not fully against a Kise lynch, I just think is makes our night play stickier if we are wrong.

If we are stuck with
Benmage - GOON
camn - GOON
Deasvail – Daytalk/Bodyguard
kuribo - Neiborizer

at night... you probly are the kill, and its
Benmage - GOON
camn - GOON
Deasvail – Daytalk/Bodyguard

in LYLO. I dont like that much. I want to force YOU and ME into LYLO if we are wrong.

But lets see the case on Shaft. I do hate a claimed doc that lives to endgame..
I also want a full target-claim from him before we lynch him (if we do).

[kuribo]

camn, you don't get to piss away all game and then keep showing up at the start of day with "AHAHAHAHHA YES LETS RUN THIS SHIT."

I told you yesterday, you run nothing. The lynch today is Kise or you. No one in the neighborhood will back any other wagon, and Benmage won't vote himself again most likely.

Kise is scum:

* Jason voted RVS on Baby Spice, and Baby voted Jason. The first post was set up as the breadcrumb for her role, so they probably coordinated that.

* If Kise is an expensive doctor and needed to keep his targets secret, why did he out that he protected Cerulean N1? Why didn't he claim that right away? Why did he paint a big target on Empire and Tammy by stating he couldn't protect them anymore? His claim was sloppy.

* Empire and Tammy both feel they were left alive over Plessie and others simply so it wouldn't look weird that the doc was still alive.

* We've been asked to drive home the fact that sotty died N2--- Sotty wasn't a universal town read at the time like Ben, Cerulean and Plessie. Hell, Zdenek was CONFIRMED TOWN at the time, but sotty died. Sotty was calling Jason out for coasting and even dead-set that Kise would flip scum. He died for his reads over CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN.

* Post #285 is a weird defense of Jason--- Empire thinks it means that absta thought Jason was going to be the muscle of the team. (at the time, Kise's slot was Baby Spice, who... frankly... is bad) Camn and ben are not bad players.

* Look at Jason after Kise claims doc. #1859 and #1910. He VOTES KISE after the claim, and then seems not to believe Kise while saying he'd revisit the read the following day--- however he UNVOTES and votes Arthur. Then he pushes wagon on me endlessly while IGNORING KISE completely. Pretty bad considering Jason acted as if he didn't believe Kise's claim. To me, this is indicative of an aborted bus.

* With the presence of a vig, limited doctor makes perfect sense for a four-man scumteam. (Jason's Informed flip indicates he likely knew who the traitor was). Again, Kise's claim was sloppy and drawn out. He didn't claim his Expensive limitation until later. Stalled claim in classico. A limited doctor that can only protect once each player from his scumteam.... matched up against a vig that can only shoot 3/4 of the scumteam.

* Remember Kise white-knighting the shit outta Jason yesterday? Yeah, a claimed doctor living to three-man LYLO? When the hell would THAT ever happen on mafiascum.net? He needed Jason alive. I've been there--- In Catch-22, I bussed the shit out of every one of my partners EXCEPT Papa Zito because I didn't want to be Last Scum Standing so early into the game--- Nuwen picked up on that and figured me out just based on that.

* If Jason's informed modifier means he knew who the traitor was, then he certainly told his scum team it was TGAH, because we now know they had daytalk.

That's the case on Kise as presented by Tammy and Empire.

There are also TOWN cases for benmage and camn, but I'll post about those later.

Vote: Shaft

[camn]

ok.
Im going to read this again tomorrow when I am sober, and try not to get involved in kuribos retarded ego-battles. Because I like to win. Not be an asshole like some people.

DV- Benmage- Kise- I will give your opinions slightly less weight than kuribos, because he is my biggest townread....... but I want to hear from you too.

and kuribo- I DO run things. I still have a plan, you little punk. Try not to lose sight of the goal, which is to win, boy.

UNVOTE

[Shaft]

The lynch today is Kise or you. No one in the neighborhood will back any other wagon, and Benmage won't vote himself again most likely.

Oh ok please win the game for us then while Ben continues to avoid me

Vote Shaft

[camn]

Hmm. Are you scum, then, Kise?
I was going to await your rebuttal... But you can save us all the trouble.

[Shaft]

I'm town.

[camn]

So whats with the self vote? That's not a town move.
And who is scum?
And what about kuribo's points against you?

[camn]

ok, this is retarded. Maybe all roads can lead to the same place.

DeasVail- I have a question for you.
Please think long and hard if you want to answer it, and how you want to answer, and answer (or not) as you see fit.

Can you protect Kuribo from death tonight? Yes/No.