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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:30 am

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Votecount 1.1


[2] Svenskt Stål (Does Bo Know, Disturbed_One)
[1] Icebox (Selkies)
[1] Majiffy (RachMarie)
[1] RachMarie (Majiffy)
[1] Varsoon (Icebox)

[3] Not Voting (Jennifer, Varsoon, Svenskt Stål)

With 9 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-04-24 20:00:00)
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:30 am

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Icebox wrote:Well I did comment on Majiffy putting Rach in L-1. :P

Also, it's not really ignoring the wagon, but rather Rem missing his timing to comment on Rach.

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So in retrospect what are you thinking about the wagon? Who's town, who's scum?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:33 am

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Do you want a consensus read or do you want my personal read?

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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:34 am

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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:39 am

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Rach: Null. I'm not quite convince Rach being scum yet but I did take a note of Rach being passive until Majiffy's vote.
Sven: L.Scum imo based on his town meta and stuff.
Selkies: town
Bo: He's kinda in between null and leaning town.
Majiffy/D_O: If you expect me to have a read other than null on them, you're expecting too much from me.
Varsoon: He's being Varsoon all right. My gut says he's town, but I want to make sure since he's the one I'm pretty confident reading.
Jennifer: Is she even here?
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:42 am

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No, Jennifer isn't here.

Why is Sven scum based on meta? His play as town is much smoother than his posts here, but as far as we're concerned, it's also markably different from his play as scum.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:44 am

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I think he's bit too serious in early game compared to his early town play I've read.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:45 am

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also, that "stuff" I mentioned earlier fits better with the word "gut."
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:47 am

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Selkies wrote:No, Jennifer isn't here.

Why is Sven scum based on meta? His play as town is much smoother than his posts here, but as far as we're concerned, it's also markably different from his play as scum.

Also can I assume that unsigned post from you is from orc?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:50 am

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Icebox wrote:I think he's bit too serious in early game compared to his early town play I've read.

If this is polygamist, Sven was never under any pressure in that game, so the comparison doesn't really hold.

Icebox wrote:Rach: Null. I'm not quite convince Rach being scum yet but I did take a note of Rach being passive until Majiffy's vote.
Sven: L.Scum imo based on his town meta and stuff.
Selkies: town
Bo: He's kinda in between null and leaning town.
Majiffy/D_O: If you expect me to have a read other than null on them, you're expecting too much from me.
Varsoon: He's being Varsoon all right. My gut says he's town, but I want to make sure since he's the one I'm pretty confident reading.
Jennifer: Is she even here?
You realize your vote is on Varsoon and that you've never addressed Sven before this point, what's up with that

Pedit: Yeah. I actually think it's easy enough to tell apart our posting, but I'll sign if you want me to.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:53 am

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Icebox wrote:
Selkies wrote:No, Jennifer isn't here.

Why is Sven scum based on meta? His play as town is much smoother than his posts here, but as far as we're concerned, it's also markably different from his play as scum.

Also can I assume that unsigned post from you is from orc?

Not 100%. I don't always remember to sign, especially when I'm really engaged in a fast-moving thread section.

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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:55 am

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hey guys n gals I am going to bed for a while it is almost 7 AM here and I usually go to bed a cple hours earlier lol.

If anyone has questions for me, feel free to post and I will respond later when I am not half asleep.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:57 am

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Wow, you guys move fast! 7 pages, L-1... anyway, hi!

VOTE: Varsoon

Reading through, I don't see why RachMarie got to L-1 instead of Varsoon.
- Varsoon: I really don't like that he said Sven was "kinda super scum" but didn't vote him. If he has a reason to think someone is scum, it's no longer a random vote so the "NO RVS philosophy" isn't even applicable.

That said, I don't like that RachMarie hasn't voted anyone since her RVS vote on Majiffy, despite actively engaging in the game.

@RachMarie
- Why haven't you voted anybody since your RVS vote?
- Why did you provide an answer on why Majiffy voted for you instead of waiting for Majiffy to come back in the thread and explain?

@Varsoon
- Why are you not voting your scum read? And, at this point with this much content, I think it's safe to say there is enough meat here that we aren't in RVS anymore (or user-defined RVS since you don't believe in it). Do you agree?
- Can you provide a better answer to Icebox's question on what "absolute statements" you thought Sven was making. Your answer in post 85 didn't make sense to me and didn't read as responsive.

@Sven
- Please explain why Selkies is a town lean for you.

@Majiffy
Why the vote on RachMarie?

@DisturbedOne
- Can you explain what posts you read before your initial vote on RachMarie. You said that you meant it to be RVS and hadn't seen other posts since Day 1, but since we're in Day 1 I'm not sure what that means...
- Why are you voting Sven?

@Icebox
- Why did you switch your vote back to RachMarie?
- Were you satisfied with Varsoon's answers to your question?
- Why does Rach seem scummier to you than Varsoon?

@Bo
- Why do you think Icebox is weird for 'pulling Varsoon out of nowhere' but don't commend on the weirdness of voting Rach after not even getting much of a response from Varsoon?
- Do you think town always fully explain their reads/changes in reads?

@Selkies
- What made you choose to vote Icebox over Varsoon?

I won't have a chance to post again until later today or tomorrow because I'm in meetings and then have a flight home. Catch up with you all later!

p-edit Argh... tried to submit and saw that like 20 new posts popped up. Won't have time to read/respond to those now.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:02 am

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Jennifer wrote:@Selkies
- What made you choose to vote Icebox over Varsoon?

Well Icebox is scummier I'm not sure how else to answer this
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:02 am

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Selkies wrote:
Icebox wrote:I think he's bit too serious in early game compared to his early town play I've read.

If this is polygamist, Sven was never under any pressure in that game, so the comparison doesn't really hold.

Icebox wrote:Rach: Null. I'm not quite convince Rach being scum yet but I did take a note of Rach being passive until Majiffy's vote.
Sven: L.Scum imo based on his town meta and stuff.
Selkies: town
Bo: He's kinda in between null and leaning town.
Majiffy/D_O: If you expect me to have a read other than null on them, you're expecting too much from me.
Varsoon: He's being Varsoon all right. My gut says he's town, but I want to make sure since he's the one I'm pretty confident reading.
Jennifer: Is she even here?
You realize your vote is on Varsoon and that you've never addressed Sven before this point, what's up with that

Pedit: Yeah. I actually think it's easy enough to tell apart our posting, but I'll sign if you want me to.

My read on Sven is the most recent, like as in 20 minutes before I posted my reads here. Also about that polygamist, well... I didn't realize that.
This is what I get for playing this in the morning. I'll go back and re-read that game.

P-Edit: @Jennifer: Everything with Rach was done by Rem, while voting Varsoon was my act. And no, I'm not quite satisfied yet.

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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:08 am

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Selkies wrote:
Jennifer wrote:@Selkies
- What made you choose to vote Icebox over Varsoon?

Well Icebox is scummier I'm not sure how else to answer this

Also a lot of your questions are really bad but I'll wait for people to answer them before bitching at you for it

Icebox, your read list doesn't make sense to me.

You're voting Varsoon, and have a town read on him
The only NLS on that list is Sven and you haven't mentioned him at all, no interactions, nothing, and no vote.
This is after you bitched at Varsoon for not voting his scumread.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:11 am

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RachMarie wrote:It was not that he put it at L-1, it was that he did not state a case or anything really, so it looks more like an OMGUS since I had my RVS vote on him.

Sorry this is belated but: Is this out of curiosity or do you actually think this is alignment indicative
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:13 am

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So there's a problem with trying to solidify my read on a person I think I'm confident reading?

What's NLS? Is that a Null Leaning Scum? If that's the case, my response is this: "Varsoon first. We have enough time to get to him later."

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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:16 am

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I'm so confused, what are you trying to achieve with your vote on Varsoon if you think Varsoon is town.

Oh wait

Oh ok
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:17 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:42 am

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I am going for a run then I´ll try to digest these pages.

I shouldnt post in the morning, I am cranky.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:56 am

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Lets do this until I think of something better

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:58 am

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Svenskt Stål wrote:Lets do this until I think of something better

VOTE MAJIFFY
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Are you intentionally ignoring me for a reason

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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:07 am

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How is it that you cant read those 2 posts and put shit together but instead have to increase the heat on me "ignoring me for a reason".
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:09 am

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VOTE: Sven
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