Micro 158: borkgame (Game Over)

[Selkies]

I don't know how accurately I can read her, but she seems town.

And yes, I have Icebox as town.

Bo?

Town.

Have you even read any of my posts? I've given these reads.

Since the tard fight started? Not so much. Too fucking painful to watch. I'll page search your iso for "Bo" later.

I wish you'd respect your fellow players more.
Reads, please.

You would probably be surprised how much I respect my fellow players. I thnk the fight was dumb. As far as reads go, I'm busy right now. And I'm late. And a half hour on the freeway is just what my brain needs to process what I've been reading. So, maybe in a couple hours.

[Svenskt Stål]

Rach: L.Scum(R)/Null(G)
Sven: L.Scum(G)/Null(R)
Selkies: L.Town(G)/L.Town(R)
Bo: Null(G)/L.Scum(R)
Majiffy: Majiffy
D_O:
Jennifer:
Varsoon: Town(G)/Town(R)

*You may take "Null" as "Didn't really look into yet"

I like this alot apart from half a scum read on me offcourse, keep an open mind, I am trying to right some wrongs.

Thoughts on getting a third vote on Bo atm?

[RachMarie]

wow Sven you really DO care

Seriously though ya know I do flip through tabs and just cause I dont respond for a short bit of time does not mean I am ignoring anyone.

Orc is right, I tend to go for a more logical game and not big on throwing tantrums... Maybe partly my personality, partly my age. When you get in your mid 40s, you don't let as much get to you as you do when you are younger I guess.

As far as Jen goes, I have no COMPLETED games with her... That is about I I can say, however should be able to get a feel for her and will meta her.

@ F
Did you enjoy your reading of my games I linked for you? I had to really search I don't get scum roles much, frriggen Doc seems to be my most common role I get (not a claim in this game BTW, talking in general from my first game N 1206 on). I have been Doc in as many as 3 games at once plus nurse (later doc) in Medical Mafia.


PEDIT more posing hard to get a word in edgewise around here...
You really need to curb that impatience a tad there Sven, give a girl a chance to warm up a bit...

At this point I need to go look at ISOs and figure out whats what.

Giving Varsoon a bit of leeway (not a free pass though) cause he is new, and looking seriously at those who are pushing that he is scum to see if they have solid reasoning or not.....

Jiffy is feeling much like his usual townie play but need a bit more from him..... He is a slippery one for sure.

I have only 3 completed games with Orc , but I gather he hated how he played in those games, first game with F but it is very clear that you and she are friends, trying to sort out if it is just that or if there is buddying going on hiding under the obvious friends (eehhh maybe a touch paranoid there?)

I know it is not much, but will produce more as I get a better handle on peeps....

Icebox is also a bit of a hydra with two very different heads. Rem seems to be the goofy joking one and GiF seems to be more of a logical player, which is good for me since it is easier for me to read those kind of players.

Need to stalk Bo too a bit I have seen him around the site a fair bit and he was in one of the Newbie games I read when I first joined to learn more about the game. I spent like 2 weeks researching the Wiki and reading up on games before I inned the Newbie queue for my first game. (most of which got lost in the crash). I saw Bo play then replace out but cant remember the game name and I think it got lost anyways.

Saw Jiffy for the first time in those games too....

[RachMarie]

how the heck did the PEDIT get way up there it should be after the last part of this about Jiffy.

[Icebox]

Rach really didn't had time to respond to her L-1 wagon because of quick unvote imo. (Guess who did the unvote ).
As I mentioned before, I have noted Rach playing passively. If she continue to do this, I'm giving her a "L.Scum" read.

EDIT:Ooh posts. I'm just gonna submit this and read.

[Svenskt Stål]

wow Sven you really DO care

Seriously though ya know I do flip through tabs and just cause I dont respond for a short bit of time does not mean I am ignoring anyone.

Orc is right, I tend to go for a more logical game and not big on throwing tantrums... Maybe partly my personality, partly my age. When you get in your mid 40s, you don't let as much get to you as you do when you are younger I guess.

As far as Jen goes, I have no COMPLETED games with her... That is about I I can say, however should be able to get a feel for her and will meta her.

@ F
Did you enjoy your reading of my games I linked for you? I had to really search I don't get scum roles much, frriggen Doc seems to be my most common role I get (not a claim in this game BTW, talking in general from my first game N 1206 on). I have been Doc in as many as 3 games at once plus nurse (later doc) in Medical Mafia.


PEDIT more posing hard to get a word in edgewise around here...

You really need to curb that impatience a tad there Sven, give a girl a chance to warm up a bit...

At this point I need to go look at ISOs and figure out whats what.

Giving Varsoon a bit of leeway (not a free pass though) cause he is new, and looking seriously at those who are pushing that he is scum to see if they have solid reasoning or not.....

Jiffy is feeling much like his usual townie play but need a bit more from him..... He is a slippery one for sure.

I have only 3 completed games with Orc , but I gather he hated how he played in those games, first game with F but it is very clear that you and she are friends, trying to sort out if it is just that or if there is buddying going on hiding under the obvious friends (eehhh maybe a touch paranoid there?)

I know it is not much, but will produce more as I get a better handle on peeps....

Icebox is also a bit of a hydra with two very different heads. Rem seems to be the goofy joking one and GiF seems to be more of a logical player, which is good for me since it is easier for me to read those kind of players.

Need to stalk Bo too a bit I have seen him around the site a fair bit and he was in one of the Newbie games I read when I first joined to learn more about the game. I spent like 2 weeks researching the Wiki and reading up on games before I inned the Newbie queue for my first game. (most of which got lost in the crash). I saw Bo play then replace out but cant remember the game name and I think it got lost anyways.

Saw Jiffy for the first time in those games too....

Foreplay is done.

My comments on ignoring wasnt aimed at you but to majiffy/selkies.

Where are you leaning on me? Who are you voting?

[Selkies]

@selkies No, you two sort your shit out, I have no will of lynching either of you day 1, and you should come to that conclusion as well, however much your views might differ.

Who are "either of you"?

Me and Orcinus?

Selkies and Majiffy?

Selkies are currently in agreement about you.

- f

Selkies and majiffy.

I dont understand the last part. I have a town lean on selkies, i dont have a town lean on majiffy but my scum read on majiffy would have to be very strong for a day 1 lynch. He is very active and from what I have heard a good player so we loose value in a early majiffy lynch. I know this will bring me heat but its my belief.

Edit @ Ice, allright, I dont mind rach votes, althou she has been at L1 and didnt give anything off. Where are you leaning?

Earlier, Orcinus was leaning scum on you. I've more Null, maybe just maybe town. We're going with my read for now.

I think we're kind of divided on Majiffy. And I'd like to get info needed to recalibrate on Bo if warranted, though it would mean my scum pile is basically people who need to post more. And it would make figuring Rach out more of a priority.

[Icebox]

Ugh I read through Rach's big post only to realize that there's no read on any of the slots.

[Varsoon]

Rach: L.Scum(R)/Null(G)
Sven: L.Scum(G)/Null(R)
Selkies: L.Town(G)/L.Town(R)
Bo: Null(G)/L.Scum(R)
Majiffy: Majiffy
D_O:
Jennifer:
Varsoon: Town(G)/Town(R)

*You may take "Null" as "Didn't really look into yet"

Why are both of you leaning town on Selkies? I'd like an answer from you both.

Would you like to start a wagon on Sven?

@Rach: Sorry for responding so strongly before, I felt like you were calling for a policy lynch on me based on my noob-level. I get what you mean now--and I know. I actually like putting myself in dangerous positions because, even if I die, town can get good reads off of the content produced.

[Varsoon]

Also, people who are actually in here,
Please give reads.
They can be as short or long as you want.
I just feel like now is a good time for us to start a wagon, scum-hunt, and pressure the more questionable players in this game.

[Svenskt Stål]

I have noted Rach playing passively. If she continue to do this, I'm giving her a "L

Agreed, it happened fast. But I would be like "NOOOOOOOO, IDIOTS )"¤)(&"()&(#)"&¤)(&#"()¤! "

She is a rock, I´ll give her that.

I think I am going to include Icebox in to the town.

@varsoon, we should talk.

[Selkies]

Looks like Majiffy is done interacting. I'll be back in an hour or so.

Svenskt I approve of including Icebox in the town.

- f

[Icebox]

Why are both of you leaning town on Selkies?

Because Selkies vs Majiffy looked TvT. That's my explanation.

[Svenskt Stål]

@selkies No, you two sort your shit out, I have no will of lynching either of you day 1, and you should come to that conclusion as well, however much your views might differ.

Who are "either of you"?

Me and Orcinus?

Selkies and Majiffy?

Selkies are currently in agreement about you.

- f

Selkies and majiffy.

I dont understand the last part. I have a town lean on selkies, i dont have a town lean on majiffy but my scum read on majiffy would have to be very strong for a day 1 lynch. He is very active and from what I have heard a good player so we loose value in a early majiffy lynch. I know this will bring me heat but its my belief.

Edit @ Ice, allright, I dont mind rach votes, althou she has been at L1 and didnt give anything off. Where are you leaning?

Earlier, Orcinus was leaning scum on you. I've more Null, maybe just maybe town. We're going with my read for now.

I think we're kind of divided on Majiffy. And I'd like to get info needed to recalibrate on Bo if warranted, though it would mean my scum pile is basically people who need to post more. And it would make figuring Rach out more of a priority.

This is where I am at, plus Majiffy will be resolved in time, he is a hard player to read early, so I think time is better spent on someone else.

I think that the volume of this game going to be a headache for scum.

[Svenskt Stål]

Why are both of you leaning town on Selkies?

Because Selkies vs Majiffy looked TvT. That's my explanation.

Yupp, I can see this too, althou my read on majiffy is null.

Hmm, this is looking prettah good.

[Svenskt Stål]

VOTE: RachMarie

Holy shit, 6 pages? I need to pay more attention. >.>

I need to go read, my bad. Hope I didn't hammer anyone.

And unvoting was not in consideration at all when you realized you put Rach at L-1?

I don't see what it could hurt. Anyway, re-reading.

Okay so as for my RachMarie vote, it was actually intended to be an RVS vote. I somehow didn't see any other posts past from day 1, so the vote I made was based on the information I had read from there.

I have read through the 7 pages now with some slight skimming, at the moment I'm most convinced of Sven being scum because of the case Bo made in post 104.

UNVOTE: RachMarie[/uvote]
VOTE: Svenskt

Will continue to read and form more opinions.

Oh God. Fixing vote tags.
UNVOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: Svenskt

THe collected works of Disturbed One.

[Varsoon]

I have noted Rach playing passively. If she continue to do this, I'm giving her a "L

Agreed, it happened fast. But I would be like "NOOOOOOOO, IDIOTS )"¤)(&"()&(#)"&¤)(&#"()¤! "

She is a rock, I´ll give her that.

I think I am going to include Icebox in to the town.

@varsoon, we should talk.

What's up?

[Majiffy]

At this point, I'd like short reads from everyone.
I've already given mine.
We need to have a check of who stands where and what we can agree on, and who we think we should collectively pressure.

Town
{DBK, Icebox, RachMarie, Varsoon}
Null
{Disturbed_One, Jennifer}
Scum
{Selkies, Sven}

No particular order. Fairly confident on all my town reads, pretty sure we could autowin this by lynching purely out of my scum and null reads.

Since the tard fight started? Not so much. Too fucking painful to watch. I'll page search your iso for "Bo" later.

DBK, actually.

Yeah lets discuss your poor choice of a vote. Why are you voting DBK? He's pretty much my strongest townread.

That was quick. Why?

His commentary and posting follows my train of thought to a T.

Majiffy: Majiffy

Lol'd. Why does everyone always refuse to read me?!

[Majiffy]

Did I miss a page? Jesus.

[Svenskt Stål]

@vandsoor Your willingness to wagon me, lets sort it out.

[Svenskt Stål]

At this point, I'd like short reads from everyone.
I've already given mine.
We need to have a check of who stands where and what we can agree on, and who we think we should collectively pressure.

Town
{DBK, Icebox, RachMarie, Varsoon}
Null
{Disturbed_One, Jennifer}
Scum
{Selkies, Sven}

No particular order. Fairly confident on all my town reads, pretty sure we could autowin this by lynching purely out of my scum and null reads.

Since the tard fight started? Not so much. Too fucking painful to watch. I'll page search your iso for "Bo" later.

DBK, actually.

Yeah lets discuss your poor choice of a vote. Why are you voting DBK? He's pretty much my strongest townread.

That was quick. Why?

His commentary and posting follows my train of thought to a T.

Majiffy: Majiffy

Lol'd. Why does everyone always refuse to read me?!

Your scum list has a high probability of being 100% wrong.

Why am I scum?

[Icebox]

Majiffy: Majiffy

Lol'd. Why does everyone always refuse to read me?!

Because you were meant to sheeped, not read.

[Icebox]

are*

[RachMarie]

I dont think we are gonna get much out of Majfffy until Mollie goes back home.


PEDIT
Icebox
yeah I agree give Jiffy time, iffen he is town and I am kinda leaning that way atm, he is very good at scum hunting, iffen he is scum we are so screwed....

Sven
umm it is not always easy for town with this much volume either Sven. Sometimes it takes me at least 2 or 3 tries to get my post to post cause there are more new posts...

and again PEDIT

yeah I am kinda leaning on a scum read of DO, not because he voted but how he has voted.... Too early to be sure though but will be watching his posts closely.

PEDIT number 3
and there goes my jiffy post cause now he has posted... will see if it posts this time BTW I thought I did give you a tentative read Majiffy?

meanwhile gonna put my vote to more good use... I know you support a Sven/Selkies scum team, but I still want to see more from DO here. The dude is pinging my scumdar something fierce and I know he is really good at being scum.

VOTE: DO

[Varsoon]

In response to Majiffy's 417:
I don't like that you're willing to narrow your two scum suspects to my two top scum suspects, especially now that more players are confirming me as town. I had you in about the middle of my town/scum radar, but this moves you more into the 'buddying scum' area of that grey space.

@Sven: I'd like to see how you respond under pressure, because, while I suspect you're scum, I'm also seeing you as more town after the last few exchanges. It'd also help other players generate some content.