Micro 158: borkgame (Game Over)

[RachMarie]

huh ?

I have no words I am speechless at this point...

Can we please get back to the game?

[Majiffy]

This would certainly explain why there are no women on the internet.

ICEBURN

[Selkies]

No particular order. Fairly confident on all my town reads, pretty sure we could autowin this by lynching purely out of my scum and null reads.

Talk to me about lining up lynches, why don't you

[Majiffy]

Talk to me about lining up lynches, why don't you

There's a fair difference between an argument from POE and an argument from 1v1.

You really ought to stop posting, Orci. Every time you do, you just put another ping on my scumdar.

[Selkies]

Talk to me about lining up lynches, why don't you

There's a fair difference between an argument from POE and an argument from 1v1.

You really ought to stop posting, Orci. Every time you do, you just put another ping on my scumdar.

Nah, it's fun blowing holes in your arguments.

So are you or are you not lining up lynches?

[Majiffy]

I am not. I'd like you to show me where I've lined anything up.

[Selkies]

Ok, so orcinus is checking my write-up of our reads. In the meanwhile, Majiffy, you wanted to talk to me?

- f

[Selkies]

I am not. I'd like you to show me where I've lined anything up.

You did say something about lynching within your 4 scum and null reads and winning the game. That's somethig resembling 2 out of 4 and you're 1) trying to apply symbolic logic to informal English and 2) pillorying him for your interpretation of what he meant by 1 out of 2 and 3) not liking it when your argument against him gets scaled up to your own argument.

I hate these sorts of arguments btw. Almost as much as I hate "let's lynch so and so for

information

".

- f

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No particular order. Fairly confident on all my town reads, pretty sure we could autowin this by lynching purely out of my scum and null reads.

Talk to me about lining up lynches, why don't you

Right here.

Because if you lynch us and we flip scum, you're going to lynch sven. And then going to lynch your nulls.

Because lo-and-behold when one flips town, guess what you're going to advocate next? A blind lynch on the other.

[Selkies]

Icebox - O - Town, f - leaning town
Majiffy - O - scum, f null leaning slightly town (see note 1)
Svenskt - O - null leaning slightly town, f null leaning slightly town (see note 2)
Rach - O - lean town, f - null (see note 3)
Does Bo Know - O - lean scum, f - null leaning scum (see note 4)
Varsoon - O - lean scum, f - null (see note 5)
D O - O - null , f - null
Jennifer - O - null , f - null

1. ff has not read most of the raging argument from earlier today because she figures that half the hydra outraged and spitting nails was plenty for one day. ff will read through that argument tomorrow. Majiffy read could change based on how that goes.

2. Svenskt read is based in large part on ff's meta base and comes with a few caveats. Svenskt didn't face any pressure at all in the Polygamy game because he replaced in as ff's partner and ff was beyond ubertown in the eyes of one and all. He faced some pressure in the newbie game, and handled it easily, but that was not the sudden out of the blue wtf is this pressure that orcinus applied during what passed for RVS.

3. orcinus has rach as lean town but knows that he's totally misread her twice. ff has no experiential meta and is sticking with null

4. orcinus has a lot of concerns about Bo. Probably the most pressing concerns at the moment boils down to his fence-sitting on us/varsoon/majiffy, and his not answering orcinus' questions (3 times) ff is trying to refine her read but it really depends on getting more comfortable with majiffy's reads. Right now, his terrible read on us makes ff question whether his read on Bo is also terrible.

5. Varsoon is the most complicated read. orcinus does not like his "reaction test", does not like his interactions with bo, and thinks his case and pressure on us sucks. The bandwagon flip from us to D O really looks bad to both of us. ff agrees with most of this and is probably being way too accommodating due to Varsoon's n00b status with this game being his second mafia game ever.


- f

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Ugh. *if you lynch us and we flip town, you're going to lynch the remainder of your scum, sven

[Selkies]

wrong account

[Majiffy]

You did say something about lynching within your 4 scum and null reads and winning the game. That's somethig resembling 2 out of 4

That'd be quite a stretch to call 2 out of 4 "lining up lynches".

and you're 1) trying to apply symbolic logic to informal English

...So?

and 2) pillorying him for your interpretation of what he meant by 1 out of 2

Um...? What?

and 3) not liking it when your argument against him gets scaled up to your own argument.

No, I'm just not liking him this game. I've gotten into large-scale arguments with him before, and he's acting very different. Can't remember which Micro, Mollie might know. I'll ask her whenever I catch her online next and I'll fetch you a link.

I hate these sorts of arguments btw. Almost as much as I hate "let's lynch so and so for

information

".

Information lynches can be useful.

Right here.

Because if you lynch us and we flip scum, you're going to lynch sven. And then going to lynch your nulls.

If I lynch you and you flip scum... how does that make me advocating your lynch scummy, again? I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Ugh. *if you lynch us and we flip town, you're going to lynch the remainder of your scum, sven

Probably shouldn't have corrected it, now it just looks like a slip instead of you being an idiot

[Majiffy]

Whenever the rest of town decides to pull its head out of its ass, Selkies can use some more votes.

[RachMarie]

an easy way to keep that from happening is open MS and log in on your main on one browser and open another browser and log in on your alt or hydra.

[Selkies]

You did say something about lynching within your 4 scum and null reads and winning the game. That's somethig resembling 2 out of 4

That'd be quite a stretch to call 2 out of 4 "lining up lynches".

and you're 1) trying to apply symbolic logic to informal English

...So?

and 2) pillorying him for your interpretation of what he meant by 1 out of 2

Um...? What?

and 3) not liking it when your argument against him gets scaled up to your own argument.

No, I'm just not liking him this game. I've gotten into large-scale arguments with him before, and he's acting very different. Can't remember which Micro, Mollie might know. I'll ask her whenever I catch her online next and I'll fetch you a link.

I hate these sorts of arguments btw. Almost as much as I hate "let's lynch so and so for

information

".

Information lynches can be useful.

Right here.

Because if you lynch us and we flip scum, you're going to lynch sven. And then going to lynch your nulls.

If I lynch you and you flip scum... how does that make me advocating your lynch scummy, again? I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Ugh. *if you lynch us and we flip town, you're going to lynch the remainder of your scum, sven

Probably shouldn't have corrected it, now it just looks like a slip instead of you being an idiot

You'll fetch me a link? I don't need orcinus meta. I know my alignment. Our alignment. What I don't know is yours.

- f

[Selkies]

orcinus stop posting and get some sleep. we're not getting lynched.

- f

[Svenskt Stål]

Rach marie is commenting on alot of stuff without adressing the game.

[Selkies]

If I lynch you and you flip scum... how does that make me advocating your lynch scummy, again? I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Lining up lynches

You're very bad at reading

[Selkies]

Rach marie is commenting on alot of stuff without adressing the game.

Yeah, I noticed.

[Varsoon]

the sudden appetite for a D O wagon looks a little hinky to me.

- f

p edit oh snap!

They were still shit when you were pushing them. Just because you've backed off them now doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot.

You haven't been very good at proving this.

Where's your partner at, I want to talk to him more. He seems to have more oxygen getting to his brain.

Can mollie play for you for a while

IMO we should wait for D_O a bit more. He's a total lurksack when he's scum.

That's the point of my vote.
Gives him some reason to actually come into the game and make himself transparent.

Okay this is weird.

You made a case on me. I responded to it. You didn't.

Now you're switching off us to go pressure a lurker, which makes no sense given how steadfast you apparently were in your read of us.

What the hell?

Oh, don't think you're in the clear or that I've just magically decided you're not scum. There's a lot of scum in this game. In fact, it makes more sense for you to say what you just did given you're in a scumteam with Disturbed One.

I swapped my vote to hope to pressure some activity, but to also see how people would react to my vote being swapped--especially you.

Right now, I'm feeling that Majiffy and Selk are scum.
I'd like them to convince me otherwise.
Also, Majiffy, the proper way to respond to someone who calls you out isn't to insult them. I'd post a funny gif or something, but the guy who introduced me to the game told me that scum posts pics, links, and gifs, so I'll keep from doing that. (Yeah, that was a jab at you, Sven. You seem like a bro dude, but I can't shake scum-vibes. Ever see The Wizard? You're like the kid with the Powerglove.)


Anyway, with that done, and with D_O still not posting, I'd like to do something more productive with my vote.
VOTE: Selkies

Prove that you're town to all of us.
Also, please stop scumbluffing.

[Selkies]

^^ that was -ff

[Selkies]

No, I'm just not liking him this game. I've gotten into large-scale arguments with him before, and he's acting very different. Can't remember which Micro, Mollie might know. I'll ask her whenever I catch her online next and I'll fetch you a link.

Mainstream mafia, wouldn't call it any more large scale than this one.

saying that town could win by lynching out of your null and scum reads is most certainly lining up lynches by your reasoning.

We did the same thing. I had (at the time) 2 scum reads, you have 2. Both of us want to lynch out of them. You accused me of lining up lynches--I can do the same to you.

That's your third contradiction of the game, step it up.

[Selkies]

but to also see how people would react to my vote being swapped--especially you.

How is our reaction to your vote-swap scum?

You /still/ haven't answered my replies to your scumcase.

Faking scumminess is good for early reaction tests, even if it gets you quickhammered because you'll flip town and it'll narrow the suspects to the wagon. Also, it generates content from reactions.

This is

What

"Fake scumminess"

"People who vote you are now scum instead of scumhunting town who look for, oh idk, scumminess?"

What

You didn't refute this point and it is applicable once more.

[Varsoon]

No, I'm just not liking him this game. I've gotten into large-scale arguments with him before, and he's acting very different. Can't remember which Micro, Mollie might know. I'll ask her whenever I catch her online next and I'll fetch you a link.

Mainstream mafia, wouldn't call it any more large scale than this one.

saying that town could win by lynching out of your null and scum reads is most certainly lining up lynches by your reasoning.

We did the same thing. I had (at the time) 2 scum reads, you have 2. Both of us want to lynch out of them. You accused me of lining up lynches--I can do the same to you.

That's your third contradiction of the game, step it up.

Who do you want to lynch, again?

Also, please put your questions all in one post right now and I'll answer them. I don't feel like digging them up, and I'd like to give you the chance to ask anything else you have.