Micro 152 - BSG Mafia (Galactica Survives?)

[SafetyDance]

"^" above, meaning my post obviously, not bulder's.

[buldermar]

I have no clue what the point of even making that comment unless you're pissed off about the ongoing game and sorry not my fault.

The point is that if you were discussing this game with mollie (which I at the time thought would be a perfectly fine thing to do), her read of me would affect how you perceive things in this game.

[buldermar]

You suck.
Your reads suck.
Your play suck.

If town wins, it's no thanks to you.

You should be ashamed of yourself for deploring the play of a person who isn't around to respond.

[SafetyDance]

Ok, so people are wondering if Nero and I are neighbours. I take it you've all seen this:

Let me reiterate, I have sources investigating into Sotty's role and alignment.

and this:

Excluded for undisclosed reasons [Safetydance]

and this:

Depends on my situation with safetydance.

and this:

I only have exterior sources regarding SD. I stated that explicitly.

So yeah, no surprise and I would've outed it anyway today, there's no way his postings could have gone ignored. A recap of the 'hood (all paraphrasing):

~Sotty very early on outs all the info of this slot to Nero at his insistence
~Nero reveals nothing
~I replace in
~Press Nero to reciprocate the claim
~I argue with him. Don't think he's town
~Nero trolls, goads and is in general annoying. Still no info about his slot
~Nero suggests we claim as non-recruiting masons
~ME: NO!
~Still doesn't give any info, I still view him as scum
~I give him an award for worst neighbor and suggest he troll elsewhere
~My confusion at the game being locked
~Rage post about being dead + give off final reads
~Rage after finding fery was in face lynched (thanks to herself)
~Nero comes to say he's townread me at the cost of his dignity
~I tell him he's lying. If I was a town read then (OoN: #905 wouldn't have happened and)) he would've claimed info about his slot too and tell him that he's basically outed the neighbourhood anyway.
~He's dead.

So yeah. Got no useful information out of him, had him as scum personally, so all in all pretty pointless.

Oh and flavor is excellent imo, it links us both well and ambiguously too (which would be the point).

[SafetyDance]

You suck.
Your reads suck.
Your play suck.

If town wins, it's no thanks to you.

You should be ashamed of yourself for deploring the play of a person who isn't around to respond.

I was robbed of the right to respond day 1. Consider it even. I welcome it being brought back up at end game.

[SafetyDance]

Miller: Gets investigated as guilty on a cop result.
Neighbor: Usually a group that can talk. Usually is T/Sk or T/Scum on rare occasions it's T/T.

Which makes me think SD is the other neighbor which maybe can explain Syr's vote on SD.

More I think about it.

SD is probably scum. Although he can try and convince me he isn't.

Vote: SD

Orci. From what I have seen of neighbors they are usually T/S.. Why aren't you interested in lynching SD today?

After Aifam, I had a lot of respect for your town play. I hoping you're not really this stupid, so I'm giving you scum points for it.

[Malakittens]

I have no clue what the point of even making that comment unless you're pissed off about the ongoing game and sorry not my fault.

The point is that if you were discussing this game with mollie (which I at the time thought would be a perfectly fine thing to do), her read of me would affect how you perceive things in this game.

Rules state you aren't allowed to discuss a game you are in unless its in a QT that's specified.

The only knowledge of how I know how you play is through GoW and what I have seen of you.

I'm warming up to the fact you might be town only because the game we were scum in.. You're acting totes different.

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SD is town. I think.. What Orci says kinda makes sense.. Why would a scum neighbor kill their pair? Plus micros/minis kinda have more town/town then Scum/town.

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So that's two weak town reads I have.
Now down to Orci. His play is so much differently then what I saw with him before. He's a lot more jumpery on everyone.

[SafetyDance]

I haven't yet read the thread.

'Cause I'm going to reread it later.

Ok, now I'm really hoping you've clarified this later on.

[SafetyDance]

He did not have a strong town read on Buld yet he was discrediting votes on Bul while calling them bad.

Calling you town partly based on an ISO. Could change based on reading though.

Still sure SD is scum. Moar votes please, thanks.

(Oh godz just doing a quick wiki search of BG; I find out that Hawaii Five-O girl is on it. Makes it tempting to watch as a background noise for doing homework)

Part of me doesn't want SD to be in a town / town neighbor with Nero.

Part of me believes that the flavor makes sense with a scum SD. More because his character was in love with the blonde chick of BG which I would think would be the other neighbor, but then that could make more sense for a Town Lover / Mafia Lover which would have been way more entertaining.

Is this for real?

You call for more votes but your only reason is that

you

really, really, really, really, want the neighborhood to be T/S.

Good grief.

Nvm flavor isn't related to the game. I'm a fail. >.>

Omg. Thank fuck for this.

[SafetyDance]

Scum in: buldermar, fferyllt, orcinus_theoriginal
Possible scum in: nero, Lurker
No idea: pitoli, Deltabacon, Syryana

Since you guys love this, I'll keep doing it in this style. Now you're all listed L-R in S-T fashion

Before day closed:
G1: orcinus_theoriginal, buldermar, fferyllt
G2: nero, Lurker
G3: pitoli, Syryana, Malakittens

Now:
G1: buldermar, orcinus_theoriginal,

fferyllt

G2: Lurker,

nero

,
G3: pitoli, Malakittens, Syryana,

So,

Vote:Lurker

Because he definitely needs more pressure now to get into the game. Should be less noise to hide in too now.

Buldermar still needs to answer for how hard he seemed to have ridden fery. Don't think he can get off lightly for 825.
I don't like orc but his early play reads mirrored mine and his logic is actually logical this day. Anyway, if he's scum you all gave him the easiest wagon to hop on ever. So need more.

The last three are now tougher to separate, they'll need a re-iso but pitoli seems to be engaging softly, scared to give anything, falling behind the "I'm a newbie" wall a bit too often to feel genuine. I've town-read Syry but his reactions and reads are really bad, so I'm re-considering. I've said enough about Mala atm I think.

[Malakittens]

Miller: Gets investigated as guilty on a cop result.
Neighbor: Usually a group that can talk. Usually is T/Sk or T/Scum on rare occasions it's T/T.

Which makes me think SD is the other neighbor which maybe can explain Syr's vote on SD.

More I think about it.

SD is probably scum. Although he can try and convince me he isn't.

Vote: SD

Orci. From what I have seen of neighbors they are usually T/S.. Why aren't you interested in lynching SD today?

After Aifam, I had a lot of respect for your town play. I hoping you're not really this stupid, so I'm giving you scum points for it.

It's okay it's not everyday I'm excited to replace in while being a vig and go ape crazy in the thread <3 Talking about Aifam, ofc.
Plus you shouldn't have respect for my game play there. I caused an unnecessary lynch on a town member and we lost. Though that unnecessary lynch

did

help

me vig mafia in the end, but still we did lose.

I go ape crazy when someone

(possibly)

accuses me of cheating.

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So if anyone thinks I'm joking about going and looking at some mini's I got stuff here. Then I got bored and thought maybe Mini's were irrelevant to micros.

Spoiler:

Mafia / Town Neighbors -

(God Father / Neighbor Cop) http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23922

Town / Town Neighbor -

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23772

SK / Town Neighbor -

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25526

Town / Mafia Neighbors -

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=22267

Town - Town Neighbor -

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=21826

The I glanced at some micro games and saw some neighborizer which is different from neighbors and the one set of neighbors I did see

were

town/town.

[Malakittens]

Which is here and none of the completed games have any.

Spoiler:

Town / Town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=25693

I'll be reading Sat as I have some time before I go V/LA.

[Syryana]

Hey, SD. Out of curiosity, since you claimed Nero's neighbor and all, what's your flavor role? Fery was Kara, Nero was Baltar, who're you?

@Buldermar: Just because I think the Nero NK makes sense coming from you doesn't mean I think you killed him (yet).

I'll elaborate on my pitoli read in the next post I make. It's clear orcinus isn't going to answer me.

[Syryana]

I've town-read Syry but his reactions and reads are really bad, so I'm re-considering.

Do elaborate.

[buldermar]

Rules state you aren't allowed to discuss a game you are in unless its in a QT that's specified.

Like I said: I wasn't aware that it was against the rules at the time, so I couldn't have been accusing you of cheating.

[buldermar]

Buldermar still needs to answer for how hard he seemed to have ridden fery. Don't think he can get off lightly for 825.

I think what I state in post 825 is perfectly accurate when she's scum, which is the scenario I was talking about. What is it that you think I have to answer for with respect to this post?

[Malakittens]

Kay, Buld, lets drop it as its not helping anyone.

[buldermar]

Hey, SD. Out of curiosity, since you claimed Nero's neighbor and all, what's your flavor role? Fery was Kara, Nero was Baltar, who're you?

This is utterly irrelevant for every aspect of the game related to actual alignment.

[buldermar]

@Buldermar: Just because I think the Nero NK makes sense coming from you doesn't mean I think you killed him (yet).

Alright, I thought that was what you were insinuating. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

[Malakittens]

Sorta. It depends. The name isn't irrelevant

[buldermar]

Kay, Buld, lets drop it as its not helping anyone.

Sure, but I do think it's important that you understand I wasn't accusing you of cheating. You accusing me of accusing you of cheating is an almost equally serious matter, as underlined by the fact that the mod explicitly commented on it. I just want to make it perfectly clear that I'm not accusing or suspecting you of cheating.

[buldermar]

Sorta. It depends. The name isn't irrelevant

Why not? If flavors are assigned randomly I struggle seing how it can be anything but irrelevant.

[Malakittens]

Sorta. It depends. The name isn't irrelevant

Why not? If flavors are assigned randomly I struggle seing how it can be anything but irrelevant.

Say player x in neighbor claims batman. Player b is actually batman. Player b CC's and player x could be lynched or vice Vera so one is proven wrong/right and it either condemns or confirms the other.
Then there's the route people claim stupid names that don't even fit in with a possible character.

[Syryana]

Hey, SD.

Out of curiosity

, since you claimed Nero's neighbor and all, what's your flavor role? Fery was Kara, Nero was Baltar, who're you?

This is utterly irrelevant for every aspect of the game related to actual alignment.

Read the quote, thanks. Besides, he might be a liar depending on what name he claims. Like William Adama, for example, would never be a Gaius neighbor.

[Malakittens]

... I hate you.

Why couldn't you use an analogy like I did? Huhuhuh?