Micro 158: borkgame (Game Over)

[Icebox]

Okay okay, jeez.

I made a town block with Bacde and Slandaar. I was right with both players. Bacde got killed. We replaced him with Superdeclan. He was town too. Scum were fucked.

[Selkies]

Since I am captain of this town I can promise that the townblock (me + selkies) is like 97% all town. we need more thou.

You are not captain.

[Selkies]

Since I am captain of this town I can promise that the townblock (me + selkies) is like 97% all town. we need more thou.

You are not captain.

agreed

[Svenskt Stål]

Ok, so this won't be a wall, but it's a summary of what Orcinus and I have been discussing for the last hour or so.

- Iceblock's post 672 (the wall) bothered us a lot. Some of the spoilered observations and questions didn't appear to mesh all that well with the reads. The two that were most troubling were Rach and Bo. GiF's recent posts have settled most of those concerns.

- We think there was at least scum on the DO wagon. When the Rach wagon started to collapse it seemed like the DO wagon sprang up with a lot of momentum. Orcinus and I were considering a DO pressure-wagon a little earlier. The DO wagon seemed to have too much steam for a pressure wagon. It bothered Orcinus tht Majiffy had so little comment on that wagon, given that 3 of his town reads (I think) were on it. However, he made a comment about Varsoon losing some town shine around that time.

Rach has moved in a townward direction.
Majiffy has moved in a townward direction.
The DO bandwagon speed makes us wonder if he/DGB are town.

Varsoon has moved down
Bo has moved down
Jennifer hasn't exactly moved, but we were hoping to get something more than null from her by now.
There is probably more buried in our chatlog that I can dig out with more coffee.

We are in agreement on everything.

Course of action? we obviously give goofy more time, varsoon or bo?

[Svenskt Stål]

Since I am captain of this town I can promise that the townblock (me + selkies) is like 97% all town. we need more thou.

You are not captain.

Since I am captain of this town I can promise that the townblock (me + selkies) is like 97% all town. we need more thou.

You are not captain.

agreed

[Selkies]

@Majiffy Orcinus is out for the next 8-10 hours, so you'll be reading me during that timeframe.

- f

[Majiffy]

Fun.

Also, if Sven is any Captain, he'd be Captain Tony.

[Does Bo Know]

#672: I made post #341 because I was getting frustrated with people trying to encourage others to be more active, even though this game is incredibly hyperactive already, and I felt like I needed to say something.

Also missed yet another question from Rach after reading what Icebox said about her #546: I don't find D_O not saying why he trusts me to be that big of a deal, considering Rach didn't say why she trusted me in her first post; the difference is that Rach was around to explain herself, and maybe D_O wasn't.

Your reads on:
Sven: Seem to point out scummy things, but overall shows you see him as overall town. That's fine.
Me: Of course I disagree with all the scummy stuff because I'm town. If there's anything else specific you'd like to ask, feel free.
Rach: Pretty much completely agree with your reads here.
Selkies: I notice you have him as Town but that most of your points point out scummy things he's done. Awesome.
Varsoon: After thinking about it a little last night, I'm feeling Varsoon's a little more townie than I earlier assumed. This analysis of him makes me feel better about that.
Majiffy: You never finished with him, but I mainly disagree because I don't really see Majiffy's posts there as "good scumhunting."
Other two: I can agree about Jennifer, but D_O's still been hard to read.

Not as good as the rest of your posts, but I do agree with some of your reads.

#690: Tries to explain why she was pressuring others to be active, even though their activities weren't affecting other players, and she couldn't get good reads on the active players. Didn't pick a great time to claim, but promises reads later. Maybe she'll improve.

#723: I'm not a risk-taker like you, so I don't see posting safely is a scum tell. And I don't see how I'm sitting on the fence with players that have been posting a lot (besides you, admittedly, but recently I'm ringing you up as more townie).

#734: I'm trying as hard as I can, Sven. I hate having to do big ass catch up posts but considering my lack of activity compared to everyone else, I can't seem to get in and actually hunt for scum while stating my thoughts on the past 200 posts every day.

#742: Can't read hydras because they're hydras, heavily emphasizes Majiffy as a town read, and doesn't actually have a scum read yet. Awesome.

#744: I'm gonna try my best tonight to post from my phone if everyone wants me to be active, but don't expect me to quote and organize things very elegantly.

D_O wagon being at L-1 was unexpected. But he's replacing out...God help anyone that tries to replace into his slot. I kinda want to have D_O lynched just to save him the trouble, because I kinda know how he feels at this point, that I can't give the attention this game deserves.

Oooh and someone does replace D_O...

I don't really feel compelled to go deeper into post-by-post analysis anymore. I'm losing motivation to play this game since I feel like I'll never catch up.

[Selkies]

Ok, so this won't be a wall, but it's a summary of what Orcinus and I have been discussing for the last hour or so.

- Iceblock's post 672 (the wall) bothered us a lot. Some of the spoilered observations and questions didn't appear to mesh all that well with the reads. The two that were most troubling were Rach and Bo. GiF's recent posts have settled most of those concerns.

- We think there was at least scum on the DO wagon. When the Rach wagon started to collapse it seemed like the DO wagon sprang up with a lot of momentum. Orcinus and I were considering a DO pressure-wagon a little earlier. The DO wagon seemed to have too much steam for a pressure wagon. It bothered Orcinus tht Majiffy had so little comment on that wagon, given that 3 of his town reads (I think) were on it. However, he made a comment about Varsoon losing some town shine around that time.

Rach has moved in a townward direction.
Majiffy has moved in a townward direction.
The DO bandwagon speed makes us wonder if he/DGB are town.

Varsoon has moved down
Bo has moved down
Jennifer hasn't exactly moved, but we were hoping to get something more than null from her by now.
There is probably more buried in our chatlog that I can dig out with more coffee.

We are in agreement on everything.

Course of action? we obviously give goofy more time, varsoon or bo?

I think the immediate course of action should be to vote less and give people time to consider their reads in the light of the last 24 hours worth of posts.

[Selkies]

Does Bo Know

[Selkies]

I thought you were gone.

- f

[Selkies]

I was going to say this earlier but I wanted to see more of what Selkies thought of Varsoon's vote on him before saying this: Selkies didn't see the actual reason Varsoon saw Selkies as scum, and decided to tear apart everything else multiple times. He thought he was missing something from Varsoon's small case, but I read it and noticed the reason on the first read. I don't see why Selkies didn't think to look back.

Is there a particular reason why you're not quoting this or...?

Whoops

Yeah, gf kept me up for a bit longer, gone now

[DrippingGoofball]

I've read up to page 10

TOWN

DGB
Sven for #58 and #99
DBK for #104, #157 and #209
Selkies: First I thought scum, but then I'm getting used to the playstyle. And I like his #141, and the following posts total town, I totally agree with him.

MEH

Icebox: overly pleasant but #83 is townie but so many posts are either fluff or scummy fluff.
RachM: wishy washy as usual.
Jennifer: #187 is a bunch of catchup questions, but no reads.

SCUM

Varsoon: post #50, #167, #200 is horrible, spoiler tags, defensive tone, nonsense and Selkies vote.

[Majiffy]

y u no put me in list

[Svenskt Stål]

Ok, so this won't be a wall, but it's a summary of what Orcinus and I have been discussing for the last hour or so.

- Iceblock's post 672 (the wall) bothered us a lot. Some of the spoilered observations and questions didn't appear to mesh all that well with the reads. The two that were most troubling were Rach and Bo. GiF's recent posts have settled most of those concerns.

- We think there was at least scum on the DO wagon. When the Rach wagon started to collapse it seemed like the DO wagon sprang up with a lot of momentum. Orcinus and I were considering a DO pressure-wagon a little earlier. The DO wagon seemed to have too much steam for a pressure wagon. It bothered Orcinus tht Majiffy had so little comment on that wagon, given that 3 of his town reads (I think) were on it. However, he made a comment about Varsoon losing some town shine around that time.

Rach has moved in a townward direction.
Majiffy has moved in a townward direction.
The DO bandwagon speed makes us wonder if he/DGB are town.

Varsoon has moved down
Bo has moved down
Jennifer hasn't exactly moved, but we were hoping to get something more than null from her by now.
There is probably more buried in our chatlog that I can dig out with more coffee.

We are in agreement on everything.

Course of action? we obviously give goofy more time, varsoon or bo?

I think the immediate course of action should be to vote less and give people time to consider their reads in the light of the last 24 hours worth of posts.

Say what? No, no we are not doing that.

[Does Bo Know]

Does Bo Know

Okay, if I have to quote things...actually I'll link them instead.
#203 You say

literally under Varsoon's case

that he's wary of you because you made a nice case. That's not why he's wary of you.
#205 You try to recap why Varsoon thinks you're scum. You say:
"-I made a case on you based on a post you admitted was scummy
-I disagree with you on RVS
-I built a nice case

Yeah, you need to try again. Good effort though."
And you still missed what he was saying about opportunism.

I still disagree that his case on you at that time was crap, and wasn't worth your vote. But honestly, that's not important anymore.

[Svenskt Stål]

Bo, interact with me.

[Does Bo Know]

@Sven: You're still town to me. There aren't any particular posts I dislike besides the recurring idea that you're the "captain" of this town bloc that clearly hasn't been completed yet.

UNVOTE: RachMarie

@Mod: Replace me, please. Very much like D_O, I don't think I can stay active long enough to keep up with this game's activity, and it's stressing me out more than it should.

[Svenskt Stål]

I did not mean to scare you.

The kraken is holstered.

[Selkies]

One of the things that bothers me about Varsoon is that I (f) wrote one mostly self-referential wall and he went from mega-voting us in big text and shit to a town read.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm on page 14 and barring an outright scum claim I will not ever vote any of the 3 players below:

Sven
DBK
Selkies

[DrippingGoofball]

@Sven: You're still town to me. There aren't any particular posts I dislike besides the recurring idea that you're the "captain" of this town bloc that clearly hasn't been completed yet.

UNVOTE: RachMarie

@Mod: Replace me, please. Very much like D_O, I don't think I can stay active long enough to keep up with this game's activity, and it's stressing me out more than it should.

Oh noessssssssssssssssssss

Change your mind

Please

I promise not to spam

[Svenskt Stål]

I see no harm in wagoning his ass selkies. All this analysis is boring me out.

[Majiffy]

DGB WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME.

Also, good, looks like your reads are roughly congruent to me this game. Maybe we can learn to get along.

[Majiffy]

Oh wait missed the not ever.

Nevermind, carry on being an idiot.